Cloning HD with "Ghost" - Page 2

**kodi** · 11-29-2005, 09:04 PM

You don't seem to be having much luck with Ghost so why not try "xxclone" you will find the link to it in oldmn's Signature.
It is a great program and very easy to use

ray3d · 11-29-2005, 09:05 PM

Well. some progress. The newly cloned disk will now let me boot up. However, I get the error code: Your system has no paging file, or paging file is too small. As a result, I can't get past my login.

Is this the result of files not copied? Can this be recovered?

At least Win2K blue screen arrived. Getting closer.

ray3d · 11-29-2005, 09:16 PM

Kodi,

I will try the new software. Thank you.

ray3d · 11-29-2005, 09:47 PM

Hi Kodi,

I installed XXCLONE and copied my HD. During the process, I got the message: No active partition found in target disk. Initialize MBR via repair. (I created the partition as a bootable "primary" partition.)

The POST says: Now booting from OS. However, the system goes to a black screen with: "PRESS A KEY TO REBOOT".

So, how can I get around this?

**oldmn** · 11-29-2005, 10:10 PM

Question would the target drive happen to be an SATA and the source an ATA/IDE?
What motherboard are you using?

ray3d · 11-29-2005, 10:27 PM

New results!

I used XXCLONE in "FULL BACKUP" mode and followed that with "REPAIR". Now the new HD boots. It offers my two OS options on startup: CLONED OS and WIN9X. I chose the former.

MY drives are all ATA133. Motherboard is ASUS PT533 (C?), with 533 MHZ FSB. CPU is Pentium4, 2.4 GHZ with 512GB 800MHZ RIMM. OS WIN2K Pro. Final configuration will have 4 HDs with a Terabyte+. 600 GB will be a striped array.

**kodi** · 11-29-2005, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ray3d

New results!

I used XXCLONE in "FULL BACKUP" mode and followed that with "REPAIR". Now the new HD boots. It offers my two OS options on startup: CLONED OS and WIN9X. I chose the former.

Doas this mean that you are up and running?

ray3d · 11-29-2005, 10:58 PM

Yes. it does!

XXCLONE created a working clone where GHOST and LIFGUARD did not. I can now boot from my clones.

Again, what does it mean that I have two OS options on start up? Where did that come from? It wasn't on the original HD.

Thank you to everyone who took tha time to share your suggestions on this. I tried all of the advice. For me, on my system, this works.

By the way, what does XXCLONE cost after the testdrive ends?

**oldmn** · 11-29-2005, 11:20 PM

Single license $40.00 For Pro, The personal (Basic) is free.
http://www.xxclone.com/

ray3d · 11-30-2005, 09:02 AM

I've created several clones of my original HD. All work fine. However, can someone explain to me why the original disk from which these clones were made will no longer boot my PC?

Also, Why do the clones offer me 2 OS choices on bootup? One is called "XXCLONE Windows (cloned volume)", and the other, "WIN9X".

ray3d · 11-30-2005, 09:07 AM

Oops! Something new.

Now that I've added a 2nd data HD which used to work fine, I get some new diagnostic during start-up which is just running my screen with "correcting" and "checking" operations.

Is this normal behavior?

ray3d · 12-04-2005, 10:43 AM

I took Olman's advice and tried XXClone. I found that it did the job for me. However, It raised some questions in my mind. I posted the following message on the XXClone Google Forum. So far, no one has responded.

Any thoughts?
__________________________________________________

"Clone"?
(RE: cloning my HD)

I tried 2 other utilities when attempting to create a bootable clone of
my OS, (Norton Ghost and WD Lifeguard Tools). Neither would give me a
workable result. XXclone did the job with a single try. However, I'd
like some clarification about what a cloned partition actually is.

My "new" OS partition does start my computer, but some things have
changed. The "XXClone" name appears next to my copied OS on start-up.
There is also a "Win9.X" option, (inactive), that didn't used to be
there. Upon first starting from my new HD, XXClone opens and
congratulates me for successfully using their product. As these didn't
appear in my original boot partition, how is this a true "clone"?

I made several bootable clones as I removed multiple HDs from my
system. One would not work. One worked for a day, then reported
corrupted files. One remains in my active computer, intended for use
as an alternate boot section should I haver a failure of the Primary
boot partition.

So, here are some of my concerns:

Is a clone reliable? I seem to recall "Dolly the Sheep", (the first
biological clone), running into health problems. Every science fiction
story I ever read had problems when a society of human clones ran into
later generations with defective DNA.

I am building an elaborate computer system based upon a cloned OS. Am
I going to have trouble "down the road"?

When I do backups of my OS, then use those backups to rebuild damaged
disks, I will be making clones of clones. Are the long term effects of
this process known?

And, what else has been added to my copied partitions that I don't know
about?

11-29-2005, 09:04 PM	#21 (permalink)
kodi Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 7,396 OS: Windows 7-Ultimate 64 Bit My System	You don't seem to be having much luck with Ghost so why not try "xxclone" you will find the link to it in oldmn's Signature. It is a great program and very easy to use __________________ Brian

11-29-2005, 09:05 PM	#22 (permalink)
ray3d Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Western Colorado Posts: 45 OS: Win2000	Well. some progress. The newly cloned disk will now let me boot up. However, I get the error code: Your system has no paging file, or paging file is too small. As a result, I can't get past my login. Is this the result of files not copied? Can this be recovered? At least Win2K blue screen arrived. Getting closer. __________________ Ray3D Last edited by ray3d; 11-29-2005 at 09:12 PM.

11-29-2005, 09:16 PM	#23 (permalink)
ray3d Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Western Colorado Posts: 45 OS: Win2000	Kodi, I will try the new software. Thank you. __________________ Ray3D

11-29-2005, 09:47 PM	#24 (permalink)
ray3d Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Western Colorado Posts: 45 OS: Win2000	Hi Kodi, I installed XXCLONE and copied my HD. During the process, I got the message: No active partition found in target disk. Initialize MBR via repair. (I created the partition as a bootable "primary" partition.) The POST says: Now booting from OS. However, the system goes to a black screen with: "PRESS A KEY TO REBOOT". So, how can I get around this? __________________ Ray3D

11-29-2005, 10:10 PM	#25 (permalink)
oldmn TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gig Harbor Wa Posts: 2,150 OS: XP Pro SP3 X 3 My System	Question would the target drive happen to be an SATA and the source an ATA/IDE? What motherboard are you using? __________________ AVG \| MEMTEST86 \| Zone Alarm \| XXCLONE \| Adaware \| Beyond Compare \| Everest If TSF has helped you, Tell us about it! or Donate to help keep the site up! Sorry no PM's for problems.[/center] Last edited by oldmn; 11-29-2005 at 10:11 PM.

11-29-2005, 10:27 PM	#26 (permalink)
ray3d Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Western Colorado Posts: 45 OS: Win2000	New results! I used XXCLONE in "FULL BACKUP" mode and followed that with "REPAIR". Now the new HD boots. It offers my two OS options on startup: CLONED OS and WIN9X. I chose the former. MY drives are all ATA133. Motherboard is ASUS PT533 (C?), with 533 MHZ FSB. CPU is Pentium4, 2.4 GHZ with 512GB 800MHZ RIMM. OS WIN2K Pro. Final configuration will have 4 HDs with a Terabyte+. 600 GB will be a striped array. __________________ Ray3D Last edited by ray3d; 11-29-2005 at 10:35 PM.

11-29-2005, 10:58 PM	#28 (permalink)
ray3d Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Western Colorado Posts: 45 OS: Win2000	Yes. it does! XXCLONE created a working clone where GHOST and LIFGUARD did not. I can now boot from my clones. Again, what does it mean that I have two OS options on start up? Where did that come from? It wasn't on the original HD. Thank you to everyone who took tha time to share your suggestions on this. I tried all of the advice. For me, on my system, this works. By the way, what does XXCLONE cost after the testdrive ends? __________________ Ray3D Last edited by ray3d; 11-29-2005 at 11:00 PM.

11-29-2005, 11:20 PM	#29 (permalink)
oldmn TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gig Harbor Wa Posts: 2,150 OS: XP Pro SP3 X 3 My System	Single license $40.00 For Pro, The personal (Basic) is free. http://www.xxclone.com/ __________________ AVG \| MEMTEST86 \| Zone Alarm \| XXCLONE \| Adaware \| Beyond Compare \| Everest If TSF has helped you, Tell us about it! or Donate to help keep the site up! Sorry no PM's for problems.[/center] Last edited by oldmn; 11-29-2005 at 11:24 PM.

11-30-2005, 09:02 AM	#30 (permalink)
ray3d Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Western Colorado Posts: 45 OS: Win2000	I've created several clones of my original HD. All work fine. However, can someone explain to me why the original disk from which these clones were made will no longer boot my PC? Also, Why do the clones offer me 2 OS choices on bootup? One is called "XXCLONE Windows (cloned volume)", and the other, "WIN9X". __________________ Ray3D Last edited by ray3d; 11-30-2005 at 09:09 AM.

11-30-2005, 09:07 AM	#31 (permalink)
ray3d Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Western Colorado Posts: 45 OS: Win2000	some unexpected behavior Oops! Something new. Now that I've added a 2nd data HD which used to work fine, I get some new diagnostic during start-up which is just running my screen with "correcting" and "checking" operations. Is this normal behavior? __________________ Ray3D Last edited by ray3d; 11-30-2005 at 09:20 AM.

12-04-2005, 10:43 AM	#32 (permalink)
ray3d Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Western Colorado Posts: 45 OS: Win2000	XXClone I took Olman's advice and tried XXClone. I found that it did the job for me. However, It raised some questions in my mind. I posted the following message on the XXClone Google Forum. So far, no one has responded. Any thoughts? __________________________________________________ "Clone"? (RE: cloning my HD) I tried 2 other utilities when attempting to create a bootable clone of my OS, (Norton Ghost and WD Lifeguard Tools). Neither would give me a workable result. XXclone did the job with a single try. However, I'd like some clarification about what a cloned partition actually is. My "new" OS partition does start my computer, but some things have changed. The "XXClone" name appears next to my copied OS on start-up. There is also a "Win9.X" option, (inactive), that didn't used to be there. Upon first starting from my new HD, XXClone opens and congratulates me for successfully using their product. As these didn't appear in my original boot partition, how is this a true "clone"? I made several bootable clones as I removed multiple HDs from my system. One would not work. One worked for a day, then reported corrupted files. One remains in my active computer, intended for use as an alternate boot section should I haver a failure of the Primary boot partition. So, here are some of my concerns: Is a clone reliable? I seem to recall "Dolly the Sheep", (the first biological clone), running into health problems. Every science fiction story I ever read had problems when a society of human clones ran into later generations with defective DNA. I am building an elaborate computer system based upon a cloned OS. Am I going to have trouble "down the road"? When I do backups of my OS, then use those backups to rebuild damaged disks, I will be making clones of clones. Are the long term effects of this process known? And, what else has been added to my copied partitions that I don't know about? __________________ Ray3D