Defrag Runs... but Doesn't Defrag

BBK · 04-16-2008, 06:48 PM

Hi, I've got Windows 2000 Pro SP4 I run defrag analysis which tells me:

Volume (E:):
Volume size = 76,316 MB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space = 53,896 MB
Free space = 22,420 MB
Percent free space = 29 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 40 %
File fragmentation = 79 %
Free space fragmentation = 2 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 74,384
Average file size = 1,288 KB
Total fragmented files = 524
Total excess fragments = 338,709
Average fragments per file = 5.55

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 768 MB
Total fragments = 1

Directory fragmentation
Total directories = 9,887
Fragmented directories = 3
Excess directory fragments = 4

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 99 MB
MFT record count = 87,741
Percent MFT in use = 85 %
Total MFT fragments = 2

I click to run the defrag and it goes through the motions, showing the bar, showing "Defragmenting.." on the status bar and taking time to do so -about 10 min or so - but at the end the HD is no more defragged than before?!?!

Actually it is exactly where it started !

I'm running AVG, ZAlarm, Launchy. Could those be problematic? Any ideas?

Thanks in advance guys!

**sobeit** · 04-16-2008, 06:54 PM

try running defrag in safemode.

BBK · 04-16-2008, 06:56 PM

sorry, what is safemode?

edit: oops, yeah, safemode. duh!

I'll try that, any good free defrag utilities out there? any recommendations would be appreciated. thanks!

BBK · 04-17-2008, 03:54 PM

ok I'm back, I rebooted into safe mode and ran the microsoft defrag utility, it went through the motions and just like before the HD was as fragmented as before!

this is really weird.

any ideas? perhaps a third party utility can succeed when MS's failed?

appreciate any input as this is critical... my HD is massively fragmented and it really needs to be put right.

thank you!

BBK · 04-20-2008, 04:44 AM

ok I ran AusLogic's Disk Defrag and it gave me this result:
fragmentation before 57.52%
fragmentation after 57.26%

WTF?

oldmn · 04-20-2008, 07:24 AM

What Files and directory's is the report listing as fragmented?
If they are system files defrag will not touch them.

BBK · 04-21-2008, 04:11 PM

I'm not sure what more details I can get or where I can get them, I c/p the report (see above)

Since the percentage is so high I think it is very probable to almost certain that there are non system files at play here.

Any other ideas appreciated!

anyone have any experience with spinrite?

04-16-2008, 06:48 PM	#1 (permalink)
BBK Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 6 OS: Windows 2000 Pro	Defrag Runs... but Doesn't Defrag Hi, I've got Windows 2000 Pro SP4 I run defrag analysis which tells me: Volume (E:): Volume size = 76,316 MB Cluster size = 4 KB Used space = 53,896 MB Free space = 22,420 MB Percent free space = 29 % Volume fragmentation Total fragmentation = 40 % File fragmentation = 79 % Free space fragmentation = 2 % File fragmentation Total files = 74,384 Average file size = 1,288 KB Total fragmented files = 524 Total excess fragments = 338,709 Average fragments per file = 5.55 Pagefile fragmentation Pagefile size = 768 MB Total fragments = 1 Directory fragmentation Total directories = 9,887 Fragmented directories = 3 Excess directory fragments = 4 Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation Total MFT size = 99 MB MFT record count = 87,741 Percent MFT in use = 85 % Total MFT fragments = 2 I click to run the defrag and it goes through the motions, showing the bar, showing "Defragmenting.." on the status bar and taking time to do so -about 10 min or so - but at the end the HD is no more defragged than before?!?! Actually it is exactly where it started ! I'm running AVG, ZAlarm, Launchy. Could those be problematic? Any ideas? Thanks in advance guys!

04-16-2008, 06:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
sobeit Mentor Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NEAR Posts: 3,759 OS: windows/linux	Re: Defrag Runs... but Doesn't Defrag try running defrag in safemode. __________________ Do not feed the trolls.

04-16-2008, 06:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
BBK Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 6 OS: Windows 2000 Pro	Re: Defrag Runs... but Doesn't Defrag sorry, what is safemode? edit: oops, yeah, safemode. duh! I'll try that, any good free defrag utilities out there? any recommendations would be appreciated. thanks! Last edited by BBK : 04-16-2008 at 06:59 PM.

04-17-2008, 03:54 PM	#4 (permalink)
BBK Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 6 OS: Windows 2000 Pro	Re: Defrag Runs... but Doesn't Defrag ok I'm back, I rebooted into safe mode and ran the microsoft defrag utility, it went through the motions and just like before the HD was as fragmented as before! this is really weird. any ideas? perhaps a third party utility can succeed when MS's failed? appreciate any input as this is critical... my HD is massively fragmented and it really needs to be put right. thank you!

04-20-2008, 04:44 AM	#5 (permalink)
BBK Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 6 OS: Windows 2000 Pro	Re: Defrag Runs... but Doesn't Defrag ok I ran AusLogic's Disk Defrag and it gave me this result: fragmentation before 57.52% fragmentation after 57.26% WTF?

04-20-2008, 07:24 AM	#6 (permalink)
oldmn Hardware Tech Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gig Harbor Wa Posts: 2,137 OS: XP Pro SP3 X 3 My System	Re: Defrag Runs... but Doesn't Defrag What Files and directory's is the report listing as fragmented? If they are system files defrag will not touch them. __________________ AVG \| MEMTEST86 \| Zone Alarm \| XXCLONE \| Adaware \| Beyond Compare \| Everest If TSF has helped you, Tell us about it! or Donate to help keep the site up! Sorry no PM's for problems.

04-21-2008, 04:11 PM	#7 (permalink)
BBK Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 6 OS: Windows 2000 Pro	Re: Defrag Runs... but Doesn't Defrag I'm not sure what more details I can get or where I can get them, I c/p the report (see above) Since the percentage is so high I think it is very probable to almost certain that there are non system files at play here. Any other ideas appreciated! anyone have any experience with spinrite?