Cpu help please - Page 3

Dat_gurl_keke · 07-25-2007, 01:54 PM

Where can i download it at and how can i make the cd

Dat_gurl_keke · 07-25-2007, 02:15 PM

o yea and i found this ultimate boot cd that i would have to download and i just want to know if this would work and if it does how will i b able to make the cd
http://www.download.com/Ultimate-Boo...=dl&tag=button

**Bartender** · 07-25-2007, 07:51 PM

keke -
That's why I asked about broadband. If you have it, that changes everything. I'll state this right up front - if you don't have a bit of a sense of adventure trying out Linux would not be advisable.

Having said that, Linux has made huge strides in ease of use in the last two years. Huge. If you have broadband, and you find that Linux recognizes your printer/scanner/digital camera/ etc. you could find yourself going, "Gosh, why didn't I try this before?"

You'll need at least one 700 MB CD. Not 650's. It'd be better to have a few in case you make a few mistakes or want to try a few different versions of Linux.

PCLOS is a user-friendly OS. Look for the nearest US server to you.
Ubuntu or Kubuntu are both great choices. Ubuntu has momentum right now what with Dell starting to offer PC's pre-loaded with Ubuntu.
You'll see different downloads for i-386, AMD64, and PowerPC. You want the i-386 version.

Once you've finished the download, burn the .iso to a CD SLOWLY (2X to 4X burn speed, not 24X or whatever the burn utility tries to go to) and make sure that you don't just copy the data. You need to tell your CD burner software to convert the .iso to a bootable CD. This is easy to do, but people get confused over this all the time. You might want to tell us what burner software you have (Nero, Adaptec, Sony NTI, etc.), and someone can tell you what to do. There are also free burner utilities that make the job easy. ImgBurn is one of them.

If your download was intact, and if you burned the CD correctly, you'll end up with a LiveCD. You tell your PC to boot from the CD (you know how to do that in BIOS, right?), then restart the PC, toss the CD in the tray, and let the CD spin up. Ooh, ooh, do you have at least 256 MB of RAM? The LiveCD's will tax your system a bit and without enuf RAM the PC will choke.

You know what? With broadband, all you have to lose is a CD or three and some time wasted. Just try it, ask questions as you go if you have to (you're covering ground already trod by thousands of others, so the answers are easily obtained) and hopefully we can get you to trying out the LiveCD. A LiveCD is an amazing thing...you can take Linux out for a test-drive without making any changes to your computer. It runs from the CD. You can see how it works, go online, try to identify your printer, plug in your digital camera, etc. If everything seems to work, and you've decided it's not worth it to try and fix W2K, you just click on the "install" icon and let Linux take over the HDD.
Or, depending on the size of your HDD, you can leave the Windows partition alone in case you think you might get back to it. It's just that letting Linux write to the entire drive is so much simpler.

dai · 07-25-2007, 08:53 PM

try running from a linux disk before installing to see how you like it
http://www.hungrypenguin.net/downloads.html
knoppix is one i have tried

**Bartender** · 07-25-2007, 10:07 PM

Hi, dai, thanks for the input.
I don't want to push keke toward ditching Windows when it's probly fixable, but considering the situation (no Windows CD, no geeks immediately available in the neighborhood to help out, the OP is not very competent with the tasks that we're suggesting, and the presence of broadband) trying out a Lnux distro or two seems like one reasonable alternative.

If it were me, I wouldn't spend any money on that old IBM before I got a better idea of what was wrong.
Besides, if the LiveCD runs, then keke could
1) rescue personal data (.jpg's, mp3's, etc.) off the Windows partition
2) depending of course on whether the PC has 256 RAM or more, just watching how the LiveCD runs will tell us something about the PC, whether there seem to be hardware problems, etc.

Dat_gurl_keke · 07-25-2007, 11:17 PM

Ok yes i have the cd's and yes the computer that im using is using broad band and so does mines now can someone walk me through the steps on downloading the os to the cd i dont want to mess up truing to do it myself

**Bartender** · 07-26-2007, 12:45 AM

Still need to know how much RAM your broken PC has. What's the exact model? There has to be an identifier somewhere - on the back, underneath, something that says "IBM ##"...
EDIT: It'd be good to know your video card too...Intel or Nvidia is good, ATI can be a pain. Well, we'll know after you make a LiveCD.

Tell you what. aysiu has put a lot of work into his guides. Here's his psychocats homepage and here's his step-by-step directions for burning a CD. This is for Ubuntu.

I didn't use bittorrent because I was using someone else's computer to download my copies and you don't have to either. It's up to you. He gives directions for getting a good free burning program, as well as links to instructions for Nero and Roxio. And the advice for checking the md5 is good too. But if you don't want to do that you could just try running the CD and see if it works.

Once you've made a CD of one distro (that's what they call different Linux versions) it's pretty easy to make others. I couldn't find a step-by-step for PCLOS.

If you find you just can't make one, post back. Betcha someone would be willing to send you a couple of finished CD's. Then all you'd need to do is know how to go into BIOS and tell the PC to boot from the CD drive.

Dat_gurl_keke · 07-26-2007, 12:08 PM

ok i was doing that step by step thing with that psychocats website or whatever and when i was following the steps when i had to download the torrent file and open it with torrent it said not enough disk space try anoter location something like that so i guess im not going to be able to make the cd

And on my computer the only imformation i could find was

IBM
Etl Id: 60 10 10, 6280
input
hz:47-83
100v-127v/6.5A
200v-240v/3.5A
2276-1826687

Im sorri if that doesnt help any

**TheMatt** · 07-26-2007, 01:12 PM

Download Everest from my sig and create a full report with the Report wizard. Save it in either HTML or Text Format. Click Go Advanced and scroll down to the Manage Attachements button. Click that and use it to attach your report.

Dat_gurl_keke · 07-26-2007, 01:51 PM

Report.

**TheMatt** · 07-26-2007, 02:04 PM

Thats an older computer. I would look at something like DSL or Xubuntu. Debian would also work OK.

Xubuntu would be the easiest to install & use.

Dat_gurl_keke · 07-26-2007, 02:37 PM

but thats not my computer report its the report for the computer that im using to talk to you

**Bartender** · 07-26-2007, 07:26 PM

keke -
Matt wanted you to run it on the broken PC. I was gonna suggest Belarc (a similar program) but figured if you couldn't get to a desktop you wouldn't be able to run it.
Matt, keke won't be able to run Everest, will he/she?

I'm under the assumption that unless the package can run from BUIOS it ain't gonna run

**TheMatt** · 07-26-2007, 08:38 PM

On UBCD from my sig, run PC-Config under Other Tools (System Information) and make a note of the CPU (processor), RAM, (memory), and hard disk drive.

Dat_gurl_keke · 07-26-2007, 08:50 PM

i didnt get what you asked run pc-config from where

Dat_gurl_keke · 07-26-2007, 09:01 PM

well i think i found how much ram it has well this all the information i found

128.0mb of ram
system resources:66% free
file system:32-bit
virtual memory:32-bit

07-25-2007, 01:54 PM	#41 (permalink)
Dat_gurl_keke Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: North carolina Posts: 95 OS: win2k	Re: Cpu help please Where can i download it at and how can i make the cd Last edited by Dat_gurl_keke : 07-25-2007 at 02:13 PM.

07-25-2007, 02:15 PM	#42 (permalink)
Dat_gurl_keke Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: North carolina Posts: 95 OS: win2k	Re: Cpu help please o yea and i found this ultimate boot cd that i would have to download and i just want to know if this would work and if it does how will i b able to make the cd http://www.download.com/Ultimate-Boo...=dl&tag=button

07-25-2007, 07:51 PM	#43 (permalink)
Bartender Mentally divergent Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Chehalis, WA, USA Posts: 1,233 OS: W2K, Ubuntu 8.04	Re: Cpu help please keke - That's why I asked about broadband. If you have it, that changes everything. I'll state this right up front - if you don't have a bit of a sense of adventure trying out Linux would not be advisable. Having said that, Linux has made huge strides in ease of use in the last two years. Huge. If you have broadband, and you find that Linux recognizes your printer/scanner/digital camera/ etc. you could find yourself going, "Gosh, why didn't I try this before?" You'll need at least one 700 MB CD. Not 650's. It'd be better to have a few in case you make a few mistakes or want to try a few different versions of Linux. PCLOS is a user-friendly OS. Look for the nearest US server to you. Ubuntu or Kubuntu are both great choices. Ubuntu has momentum right now what with Dell starting to offer PC's pre-loaded with Ubuntu. You'll see different downloads for i-386, AMD64, and PowerPC. You want the i-386 version. Once you've finished the download, burn the .iso to a CD SLOWLY (2X to 4X burn speed, not 24X or whatever the burn utility tries to go to) and make sure that you don't just copy the data. You need to tell your CD burner software to convert the .iso to a bootable CD. This is easy to do, but people get confused over this all the time. You might want to tell us what burner software you have (Nero, Adaptec, Sony NTI, etc.), and someone can tell you what to do. There are also free burner utilities that make the job easy. ImgBurn is one of them. If your download was intact, and if you burned the CD correctly, you'll end up with a LiveCD. You tell your PC to boot from the CD (you know how to do that in BIOS, right?), then restart the PC, toss the CD in the tray, and let the CD spin up. Ooh, ooh, do you have at least 256 MB of RAM? The LiveCD's will tax your system a bit and without enuf RAM the PC will choke. You know what? With broadband, all you have to lose is a CD or three and some time wasted. Just try it, ask questions as you go if you have to (you're covering ground already trod by thousands of others, so the answers are easily obtained) and hopefully we can get you to trying out the LiveCD. A LiveCD is an amazing thing...you can take Linux out for a test-drive without making any changes to your computer. It runs from the CD. You can see how it works, go online, try to identify your printer, plug in your digital camera, etc. If everything seems to work, and you've decided it's not worth it to try and fix W2K, you just click on the "install" icon and let Linux take over the HDD. Or, depending on the size of your HDD, you can leave the Windows partition alone in case you think you might get back to it. It's just that letting Linux write to the entire drive is so much simpler. Last edited by Bartender : 07-25-2007 at 07:52 PM.

07-25-2007, 08:53 PM	#44 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 46,514 OS: vista 32x ultimate retail	Re: Cpu help please try running from a linux disk before installing to see how you like it http://www.hungrypenguin.net/downloads.html knoppix is one i have tried __________________

07-25-2007, 10:07 PM	#45 (permalink)
Bartender Mentally divergent Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Chehalis, WA, USA Posts: 1,233 OS: W2K, Ubuntu 8.04	Re: Cpu help please Hi, dai, thanks for the input. I don't want to push keke toward ditching Windows when it's probly fixable, but considering the situation (no Windows CD, no geeks immediately available in the neighborhood to help out, the OP is not very competent with the tasks that we're suggesting, and the presence of broadband) trying out a Lnux distro or two seems like one reasonable alternative. If it were me, I wouldn't spend any money on that old IBM before I got a better idea of what was wrong. Besides, if the LiveCD runs, then keke could 1) rescue personal data (.jpg's, mp3's, etc.) off the Windows partition 2) depending of course on whether the PC has 256 RAM or more, just watching how the LiveCD runs will tell us something about the PC, whether there seem to be hardware problems, etc.

07-25-2007, 11:17 PM	#46 (permalink)
Dat_gurl_keke Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: North carolina Posts: 95 OS: win2k	Re: Cpu help please Ok yes i have the cd's and yes the computer that im using is using broad band and so does mines now can someone walk me through the steps on downloading the os to the cd i dont want to mess up truing to do it myself

07-26-2007, 12:45 AM	#47 (permalink)
Bartender Mentally divergent Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Chehalis, WA, USA Posts: 1,233 OS: W2K, Ubuntu 8.04	Re: Cpu help please Still need to know how much RAM your broken PC has. What's the exact model? There has to be an identifier somewhere - on the back, underneath, something that says "IBM ##"... EDIT: It'd be good to know your video card too...Intel or Nvidia is good, ATI can be a pain. Well, we'll know after you make a LiveCD. Tell you what. aysiu has put a lot of work into his guides. Here's his psychocats homepage and here's his step-by-step directions for burning a CD. This is for Ubuntu. I didn't use bittorrent because I was using someone else's computer to download my copies and you don't have to either. It's up to you. He gives directions for getting a good free burning program, as well as links to instructions for Nero and Roxio. And the advice for checking the md5 is good too. But if you don't want to do that you could just try running the CD and see if it works. Once you've made a CD of one distro (that's what they call different Linux versions) it's pretty easy to make others. I couldn't find a step-by-step for PCLOS. If you find you just can't make one, post back. Betcha someone would be willing to send you a couple of finished CD's. Then all you'd need to do is know how to go into BIOS and tell the PC to boot from the CD drive. Last edited by Bartender : 07-26-2007 at 01:01 AM.

07-26-2007, 12:08 PM	#48 (permalink)
Dat_gurl_keke Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: North carolina Posts: 95 OS: win2k	Re: Cpu help please ok i was doing that step by step thing with that psychocats website or whatever and when i was following the steps when i had to download the torrent file and open it with torrent it said not enough disk space try anoter location something like that so i guess im not going to be able to make the cd And on my computer the only imformation i could find was IBM Etl Id: 60 10 10, 6280 input hz:47-83 100v-127v/6.5A 200v-240v/3.5A 2276-1826687 Im sorri if that doesnt help any

07-26-2007, 01:12 PM	#49 (permalink)
TheMatt Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 13,696 OS: Win 3.1, 98, NT 4.0, XP Debian 4.0, Kubuntu 6.06 My System Blog Entries: 3	Re: Cpu help please Download Everest from my sig and create a full report with the Report wizard. Save it in either HTML or Text Format. Click Go Advanced and scroll down to the Manage Attachements button. Click that and use it to attach your report. __________________ - Matt M - KB1OSC - Folding@Home 85015 If TSF has helped you, please consider donating. If I have stopped responding to a thread, feel free to send me a PM with a link to the thread. It is advisable to subscribe to threads so you will receive updates when replies are posted. You can subscribe to threads from the "Thread Tools" Menu. »Memtest86 »Prime95 »UBCD »SpeedFan »NHC Personal »Everest »Sandra »PC Wizard »RivaTuner »ATi Tool Click here for Useful Articles and Guides

07-26-2007, 02:04 PM	#51 (permalink)
TheMatt Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 13,696 OS: Win 3.1, 98, NT 4.0, XP Debian 4.0, Kubuntu 6.06 My System Blog Entries: 3	Re: Cpu help please Thats an older computer. I would look at something like DSL or Xubuntu. Debian would also work OK. Xubuntu would be the easiest to install & use. __________________ - Matt M - KB1OSC - Folding@Home 85015 If TSF has helped you, please consider donating. If I have stopped responding to a thread, feel free to send me a PM with a link to the thread. It is advisable to subscribe to threads so you will receive updates when replies are posted. You can subscribe to threads from the "Thread Tools" Menu. »Memtest86 »Prime95 »UBCD »SpeedFan »NHC Personal »Everest »Sandra »PC Wizard »RivaTuner »ATi Tool Click here for Useful Articles and Guides

07-26-2007, 02:37 PM	#52 (permalink)
Dat_gurl_keke Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: North carolina Posts: 95 OS: win2k	Re: Cpu help please but thats not my computer report its the report for the computer that im using to talk to you

07-26-2007, 07:26 PM	#53 (permalink)
Bartender Mentally divergent Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Chehalis, WA, USA Posts: 1,233 OS: W2K, Ubuntu 8.04	Re: Cpu help please keke - Matt wanted you to run it on the broken PC. I was gonna suggest Belarc (a similar program) but figured if you couldn't get to a desktop you wouldn't be able to run it. Matt, keke won't be able to run Everest, will he/she? I'm under the assumption that unless the package can run from BUIOS it ain't gonna run

07-26-2007, 08:38 PM	#54 (permalink)
TheMatt Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 13,696 OS: Win 3.1, 98, NT 4.0, XP Debian 4.0, Kubuntu 6.06 My System Blog Entries: 3	Re: Cpu help please On UBCD from my sig, run PC-Config under Other Tools (System Information) and make a note of the CPU (processor), RAM, (memory), and hard disk drive. __________________ - Matt M - KB1OSC - Folding@Home 85015 If TSF has helped you, please consider donating. If I have stopped responding to a thread, feel free to send me a PM with a link to the thread. It is advisable to subscribe to threads so you will receive updates when replies are posted. You can subscribe to threads from the "Thread Tools" Menu. »Memtest86 »Prime95 »UBCD »SpeedFan »NHC Personal »Everest »Sandra »PC Wizard »RivaTuner »ATi Tool Click here for Useful Articles and Guides

07-26-2007, 08:50 PM	#55 (permalink)
Dat_gurl_keke Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: North carolina Posts: 95 OS: win2k	Re: Cpu help please i didnt get what you asked run pc-config from where

07-26-2007, 09:01 PM	#56 (permalink)
Dat_gurl_keke Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: North carolina Posts: 95 OS: win2k	Re: Cpu help please well i think i found how much ram it has well this all the information i found 128.0mb of ram system resources:66% free file system:32-bit virtual memory:32-bit