Systemced is missing

mat2277 · 07-19-2004, 03:54 PM

I have found a lot of info on this problem and it looks like I need to repair the system hive. I found the steps to do this by going into the Win2000 system recovery console and rename some files and then replacing them.

My problem is this, when I get to the commmand prompt in the recovery console and try to change directorys to winnnt I get an access denied message. Anyone know how to get around this???

Worren · 07-19-2004, 04:42 PM

You need to be logged on as Administrator. Also, there may be some protection involved. Messing with the system hive is very involved and one mistake can blow your whole setup. Good luck.

mat2277 · 07-20-2004, 08:23 AM

How do I log into the system as Admin?? The computer will not boot I get the error message before the windows splash screen, and the pc will go no further. This is why I booted off of the Win2000 CD and tried to get into the revocery console and repair the error. The recovery console gives me a C prompt. When I try to change to the winnt directory is when I get the message saying "Access denied."

If anyone knows how I can get past this the help would be greatly appreciated.

greyknight17 · 07-20-2004, 09:03 AM

Welcome to TSF.

Have you tried using chkdsk in the Recovery Console? If not, do so now and restart afterwards.

If you tried the above already, try booting into Safe Mode to see if you can log in.

mat2277 · 07-20-2004, 09:17 AM

I ran a chkdsk /r. It still has the same problem and the system will not boot into safemode. It gives the same error. Here is the actual error.

"Windows 1000 could not start because the following file is missing or corrupted,
\winnt\system32\config\systemced."
"You can attemt to repair the file by starting windows 2000 setup using the original floppy disk or cd-rom."
"Select 'r' at the first screen to start repair."

greyknight17 · 07-20-2004, 09:34 AM

Go to this Microsoft Article. It should tell you how to rename the files (look at the link on the site) and copy some over also.

mat2277 · 07-20-2004, 10:00 AM

Thanks for the advice. I already have that microsoft article and I want to try it. However when I try to change to the winnt directory so I can rename those files it tells me,

"Access Denied."

Any idea how to get around this???????

greyknight17 · 07-20-2004, 10:36 AM

See if you could change the permissions using the attrib command.

mat2277 · 07-20-2004, 10:49 AM

Access Denied. This sucks.

greyknight17 · 07-20-2004, 10:52 AM

I would wait to see if anyone else has some ideas on how to go about with this problem. Do you want to keep the data? If you do, install it as a slave drive to another computer and backup the data there. I would then format and do a clean install of Win2000. Wait and see who responds first. There should be a way around this.

Oberjaeger · 07-20-2004, 02:28 PM

Haven't used a microsoft os in a while, but I do remember that there's a difference between the recovery console you get when booting from the cd and the one available after installing it to the hard drive.

As you've noticed the recovery console limits where you have write access to quite drastically, imo so much that the damn thing is pretty much useless.

I seem to remember there being a work-around to get write access to the entire disk. I'll check to see if I can find out how to do this, but I've already got the bad feeling that it involves installing the recovery console to disk, which will be hard if you can't boot.

I'll edit this later once I've grepped around a bit.

OK, I've already found this.

In the recovery console use

Code:

set allowallpaths = true

.
This should allow you to access all areas of all drives, but this only works if this is allowed in the security policies. In their wisdom ms have decided that this should be disabled by default.

I'll see if I can find a way to edit the security policies from the recovery console, but I haven't got much hope.

On a side note, now might be a good time to install the recovery console to disk and set the security policies on all working machines.

mat2277 · 07-21-2004, 10:45 AM

Thanks for all the help and advice. I got tired of the damn thing and just reinstalled windows.
Thanks again everyone.

sgs · 01-15-2006, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mat2277

Thanks for all the help and advice. I got tired of the damn thing and just reinstalled windows.
Thanks again everyone.

emm.. wonder is there a tools to analyz what cause this problem?

07-19-2004, 03:54 PM	#1 (permalink)
mat2277 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 27 OS: 2000	Systemced is missing I have found a lot of info on this problem and it looks like I need to repair the system hive. I found the steps to do this by going into the Win2000 system recovery console and rename some files and then replacing them. My problem is this, when I get to the commmand prompt in the recovery console and try to change directorys to winnnt I get an access denied message. Anyone know how to get around this???

07-20-2004, 09:03 AM	#4 (permalink)
greyknight17 Analyst, Security Team Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: New York Posts: 14,331 OS: Windows 98 & Windows XP Home/Pro My System	Welcome to TSF. Have you tried using chkdsk in the Recovery Console? If not, do so now and restart afterwards. If you tried the above already, try booting into Safe Mode to see if you can log in. __________________ Please do NOT PM me. Post whatever questions you may have in the forum and we will take a look at it when we get to it. If you have waited for more than 3 days, you may then and ONLY then PM me for assistance. I will take a look at it. Adaware :: CWShredder :: HijackThis :: Panda ActiveScan :: Spybot S&D Anti-Spyware Tutorial :: Spyware Prevention Tools

07-20-2004, 09:34 AM	#6 (permalink)
greyknight17 Analyst, Security Team Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: New York Posts: 14,331 OS: Windows 98 & Windows XP Home/Pro My System	Go to this Microsoft Article. It should tell you how to rename the files (look at the link on the site) and copy some over also. __________________ Please do NOT PM me. Post whatever questions you may have in the forum and we will take a look at it when we get to it. If you have waited for more than 3 days, you may then and ONLY then PM me for assistance. I will take a look at it. Adaware :: CWShredder :: HijackThis :: Panda ActiveScan :: Spybot S&D Anti-Spyware Tutorial :: Spyware Prevention Tools

07-20-2004, 10:36 AM	#8 (permalink)
greyknight17 Analyst, Security Team Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: New York Posts: 14,331 OS: Windows 98 & Windows XP Home/Pro My System	See if you could change the permissions using the attrib command. __________________ Please do NOT PM me. Post whatever questions you may have in the forum and we will take a look at it when we get to it. If you have waited for more than 3 days, you may then and ONLY then PM me for assistance. I will take a look at it. Adaware :: CWShredder :: HijackThis :: Panda ActiveScan :: Spybot S&D Anti-Spyware Tutorial :: Spyware Prevention Tools

07-20-2004, 10:52 AM	#10 (permalink)
greyknight17 Analyst, Security Team Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: New York Posts: 14,331 OS: Windows 98 & Windows XP Home/Pro My System	I would wait to see if anyone else has some ideas on how to go about with this problem. Do you want to keep the data? If you do, install it as a slave drive to another computer and backup the data there. I would then format and do a clean install of Win2000. Wait and see who responds first. There should be a way around this. __________________ Please do NOT PM me. Post whatever questions you may have in the forum and we will take a look at it when we get to it. If you have waited for more than 3 days, you may then and ONLY then PM me for assistance. I will take a look at it. Adaware :: CWShredder :: HijackThis :: Panda ActiveScan :: Spybot S&D Anti-Spyware Tutorial :: Spyware Prevention Tools

07-19-2004, 04:42 PM	#2 (permalink)
Worren Pop-a-Top Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Georgia Posts: 222 OS: Vista Ultimate 64 Bit Sp1 My System	You need to be logged on as Administrator. Also, there may be some protection involved. Messing with the system hive is very involved and one mistake can blow your whole setup. Good luck.

07-20-2004, 08:23 AM	#3 (permalink)
mat2277 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 27 OS: 2000	How do I log into the system as Admin?? The computer will not boot I get the error message before the windows splash screen, and the pc will go no further. This is why I booted off of the Win2000 CD and tried to get into the revocery console and repair the error. The recovery console gives me a C prompt. When I try to change to the winnt directory is when I get the message saying "Access denied." If anyone knows how I can get past this the help would be greatly appreciated.

07-20-2004, 09:17 AM	#5 (permalink)
mat2277 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 27 OS: 2000	I ran a chkdsk /r. It still has the same problem and the system will not boot into safemode. It gives the same error. Here is the actual error. "Windows 1000 could not start because the following file is missing or corrupted, \winnt\system32\config\systemced." "You can attemt to repair the file by starting windows 2000 setup using the original floppy disk or cd-rom." "Select 'r' at the first screen to start repair."

07-20-2004, 10:00 AM	#7 (permalink)
mat2277 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 27 OS: 2000	Thanks for the advice. I already have that microsoft article and I want to try it. However when I try to change to the winnt directory so I can rename those files it tells me, "Access Denied." Any idea how to get around this???????

07-20-2004, 10:49 AM	#9 (permalink)
mat2277 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 27 OS: 2000	Access Denied. This sucks.

07-20-2004, 02:28 PM	#11 (permalink)
Oberjaeger Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The old Europe Posts: 17 OS: Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 unstable	Haven't used a microsoft os in a while, but I do remember that there's a difference between the recovery console you get when booting from the cd and the one available after installing it to the hard drive. As you've noticed the recovery console limits where you have write access to quite drastically, imo so much that the damn thing is pretty much useless. I seem to remember there being a work-around to get write access to the entire disk. I'll check to see if I can find out how to do this, but I've already got the bad feeling that it involves installing the recovery console to disk, which will be hard if you can't boot. I'll edit this later once I've grepped around a bit. OK, I've already found this. In the recovery console use Code: set allowallpaths = true . This should allow you to access all areas of all drives, but this only works if this is allowed in the security policies. In their wisdom ms have decided that this should be disabled by default. I'll see if I can find a way to edit the security policies from the recovery console, but I haven't got much hope. On a side note, now might be a good time to install the recovery console to disk and set the security policies on all working machines. Last edited by Oberjaeger; 07-20-2004 at 02:37 PM.

07-21-2004, 10:45 AM	#12 (permalink)
mat2277 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 27 OS: 2000	Thanks for all the help and advice. I got tired of the damn thing and just reinstalled windows. Thanks again everyone.