win 98 probs

Thedevil · 04-13-2005, 07:47 AM

just got a old pc from a friend with win 98 on it, all working fine so thought would format the hard drive and start again you no the score, all went well got it all back up and running again, fine, went to install some app's and now i dont have a cdrom its there on startup and in the bios, never come accross this in the 3 years of building pc's son any help would be lovely, cheers

**norin** · 04-13-2005, 10:45 AM

usually the generic CDROM driver [oakcdrom.sys] works with all optical drives. try installing again. or removing drive, starting up shut down and install drive again restart

this doesn't work try right clicking on my computer, select properties, in device manager find the entry for cdroms and choose yours and uninstall

if it doesn't show up click the button that says scan for hardware changes

if this doesn't work you can replace the optical drive to see if it has suddenly gone bad and if this new one does not work check the IDE cable, check connections...

hmmm is there anything i missed?

Chevy · 04-13-2005, 03:36 PM

Well, seeing as the CD-ROM shows up in POST/BIOS, I'm leaning towards either a driver issue, or possible a boot sector virus, which will manifest itself this way.

If you can get online, go to www.antivirus.com and perform an online scan.

**johnwill** · 04-13-2005, 05:21 PM

If he hasn't been on-line, hopefully he doesn't have a virus yet!

I guess you never know nowadays...

I'd make sure that you remove any CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT file in the root of C:, as W98 doesn't need them. What I'd do is rename them to CONFIG.SAV and AUTOEXEC.SAV if they exist. Reboot and see if that clears it up. This will remove any influence that DOS drivers in those files might have.

Chevy · 04-13-2005, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnwill

If he hasn't been on-line, hopefully he doesn't have a virus yet!

I guess you never know nowadays...

I'd make sure that you remove any CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT file in the root of C:, as W98 doesn't need them. What I'd do is rename them to CONFIG.SAV and AUTOEXEC.SAV if they exist. Reboot and see if that clears it up. This will remove any influence that DOS drivers in those files might have.

It wouldn't surprise me if he had an infected boot floppy. Once a boot sector virus is there, it hangs on until properly cleaned.

**ReeKorl** · 04-14-2005, 03:42 AM

Seems I have the same problem. I was going to install 98SE onto my new machine until I had a chance to buy a copy of XP. This is installed from a bootable CD I have created myself which has worked countless times and is definately virus free.

The HDD I was using was BRAND NEW, so no chance of infection there.

BIOS detected optical drives.

Command line detected cd drives before installing 98SE (obviously as otherwise I couldn't have installed it!) - using oakcdrom.sys as a startup device driver.

Get into windows, and no drives. I tried removing autoexec/config files, playing around with msdos.sys, adding references to oakcdrom.sys into the startup files, anything I could think of all to no avail. Nothing seemed to make the cd drives appear.

The strange thing is this: once I managed to buy a copy of XP, I wiped the HDD, freshly installed windows, and up popped the cd drives.

Wiped system again without changing anything in hardware/bios terms and installed 98SE again, and no CD Drives.

I was going to dual-boot the two as I have quite a few games which don't work in XP, but to do this I'm going to need to use something like Alcohol/VirtualCD on 98 instead of the actual cd as the drive seems to not exist.

Any thoughts?

~~whodat~~ · 04-14-2005, 09:55 AM

many people dont realize viruses can be carried on floppies, cd's.dvd's, mp3's.....ect.

**ReeKorl** · 04-14-2005, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whodatknocking

many people dont realize viruses can be carried on floppies, cd's.dvd's, mp3's.....ect.

Sorry, is that a reply to me or Thedevil? I assure you I have checked many times and this cd does not have any code on there that Microsoft didn't want..... so I guess some people would say that it DOES have a virus.

How many people have had problems with that W32/Windows.98.SE virus before?

~~whodat~~ · 04-14-2005, 01:56 PM

lol
no, not necessary.... to you

04-13-2005, 07:47 AM	#1 (permalink)
Thedevil Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: uk Posts: 1 OS: 98	win 98 probs just got a old pc from a friend with win 98 on it, all working fine so thought would format the hard drive and start again you no the score, all went well got it all back up and running again, fine, went to install some app's and now i dont have a cdrom its there on startup and in the bios, never come accross this in the 3 years of building pc's son any help would be lovely, cheers

04-13-2005, 10:45 AM	#2 (permalink)
norin TSF Veteran Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: L-Town, Maine Posts: 1,748 OS: WinXP Pro SP3 My System	usually the generic CDROM driver [oakcdrom.sys] works with all optical drives. try installing again. or removing drive, starting up shut down and install drive again restart this doesn't work try right clicking on my computer, select properties, in device manager find the entry for cdroms and choose yours and uninstall if it doesn't show up click the button that says scan for hardware changes if this doesn't work you can replace the optical drive to see if it has suddenly gone bad and if this new one does not work check the IDE cable, check connections... hmmm is there anything i missed? __________________

04-13-2005, 05:21 PM	#4 (permalink)
johnwill Manager, Networking Forums Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania, US Posts: 41,802 OS: Windows 7, XP-Pro, Vista, Linux Blog Entries: 1	If he hasn't been on-line, hopefully he doesn't have a virus yet! I guess you never know nowadays... I'd make sure that you remove any CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT file in the root of C:, as W98 doesn't need them. What I'd do is rename them to CONFIG.SAV and AUTOEXEC.SAV if they exist. Reboot and see if that clears it up. This will remove any influence that DOS drivers in those files might have. __________________ If TSF has helped you, Tell us about it! or Donate to help keep the site up! Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

04-14-2005, 03:42 AM	#6 (permalink)
ReeKorl Superhuman Computer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: 6th Circle, The City of Dis, Hell Posts: 1,610 OS: WinXP Pro SP2 My System	Seems I have the same problem. I was going to install 98SE onto my new machine until I had a chance to buy a copy of XP. This is installed from a bootable CD I have created myself which has worked countless times and is definately virus free. The HDD I was using was BRAND NEW, so no chance of infection there. BIOS detected optical drives. Command line detected cd drives before installing 98SE (obviously as otherwise I couldn't have installed it!) - using oakcdrom.sys as a startup device driver. Get into windows, and no drives. I tried removing autoexec/config files, playing around with msdos.sys, adding references to oakcdrom.sys into the startup files, anything I could think of all to no avail. Nothing seemed to make the cd drives appear. The strange thing is this: once I managed to buy a copy of XP, I wiped the HDD, freshly installed windows, and up popped the cd drives. Wiped system again without changing anything in hardware/bios terms and installed 98SE again, and no CD Drives. I was going to dual-boot the two as I have quite a few games which don't work in XP, but to do this I'm going to need to use something like Alcohol/VirtualCD on 98 instead of the actual cd as the drive seems to not exist. Any thoughts? __________________ "Sorry, the number you have dialled is imaginary. Please rotate dial by 90 degrees and try again." Last edited by ReeKorl; 04-14-2005 at 03:44 AM.

04-14-2005, 01:56 PM	#9 (permalink)
~~whodat~~ Register user Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 5,931 OS: XP	lol no, not necessary.... to you Last edited by whodat; 04-14-2005 at 01:59 PM.

04-13-2005, 03:36 PM	#3 (permalink)
Chevy Retired Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Notlob Posts: 5,452 OS: Vista Ultimate My System	Well, seeing as the CD-ROM shows up in POST/BIOS, I'm leaning towards either a driver issue, or possible a boot sector virus, which will manifest itself this way. If you can get online, go to www.antivirus.com and perform an online scan.

04-14-2005, 09:55 AM	#7 (permalink)
~~whodat~~ Register user Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 5,931 OS: XP	many people dont realize viruses can be carried on floppies, cd's.dvd's, mp3's.....ect.