DirectX 9.0c.

Death · 10-31-2006, 05:51 PM

DirectX 9.0c doesn't work with Windows 98 Second Edition anymore. It said that some files with my graphics card drivers didn't go well with it... this is what it says:

The file ATI2DRAG.DRV is not digitally signed, which means that it has not been tested by Microsoft's Windows Hardware Quality Labs (WHQL). Current drivers tested for a WHQL logo are only available on Windows ME, Windows 2000, and Windows XP. New Windows 98 drivers are no longer tested for WHQL logos.
To test DirectDraw functionality, click the "Test DirectDraw" button above.
To test Direct3D functionality, click the "Test Direct3D" button above.

When I click on Test Direct3D, it closes DXDiag.

Matrix720 · 10-31-2006, 09:03 PM

Death. I have had this promblem once on my system. Check out your video card. sometimes they can go bad on your system and if that is not the promblem, then i would say try and upgrade your windows operating system but not to windows me i am sure the other guys in here would tell you anything is better then me.

Jlp1928 · 11-01-2006, 07:44 AM

Hi, The error message does not mean that the driver is bad. It means that Microsoft has not approved it. If it works OK then just forget the message.

Good Luck, Jim

Death · 11-01-2006, 10:00 AM

It doesn't work though. Direct3D doesn't work when I test it (even the DirectX 7.0 interface.). Only DireectDraw works. When I try to run Battlefield 1942, it closes and won't load up.

**Done_Fishin** · 11-03-2006, 06:55 AM

It could be that you have corrupt drivers.
Check out the latest drivers for your card and either do an upgrade driver or re-install driver to see if that helps.
I had a similar problem in XP recently when virtually every driver it tried to install came up with that "not signed by Microssoft" warning. I ended up doing a repair install (easier in Win9x you just re-install over the top) to reset all the drivers in the install.

Death · 11-03-2006, 03:30 PM

Ok, I guess it was just a faulty install... when I find the time, I will do a reinstall of Windows 98. Thanks for the help :) .

**Done_Fishin** · 11-03-2006, 04:18 PM

good luck & keep us informed about how you fare. If we can vbe of any further assistance .. we''ll be here

Death · 11-05-2006, 01:09 PM

It still doesn't work. I reinstall Windows 98SE...

**Done_Fishin** · 11-05-2006, 02:21 PM

Sorry it didn't work for you .. hope this next step does

Death · 11-10-2006, 09:49 PM

What next step? I reinstalled it 3 times already, and nothing happens :( .

**Done_Fishin** · 11-11-2006, 02:17 AM

What graphics card do you have?

Death · 11-11-2006, 10:14 AM

ATI Radeon 9550 AGP - 256 MB.

**Done_Fishin** · 11-11-2006, 10:50 AM

I can find no reference to the fact that your card is supported by Win98SE

Avisit to radeon site brought forth this info.

Quote:

Specifications
System Requirements
Intel® Pentium® 4/III/II/Celeron™, AMD-K6®/Duron™/Athlon™/Athlon™ XP or compatible with
AGP 4X (1.5V), 8X (0.8v) or Universal AGP 3.0 bus configuration (4X/8X).
128MB of system memory
Installation software requires CD-ROM drive
DVD playback requires DVD drive
Graphics Technology
RADEON® 9550 Visual Processing Unit (VPU)
Memory Configuration
256MB of double data rate memory

Operating System Support
Windows® XP
Windows® 2000

so while your mobo (for which I find NO details) might support your Graphics card, might support windows 98 thru Vista, I suspect that the combination DirectX 9.0c plus Win98SE plus ATI Radeon is a no go ... have you ever had this combination running or is it something you just tried now.

**Done_Fishin** · 11-11-2006, 11:03 AM

a visit to Diamond brought forth this info

Quote:

Diamond Stealth S120 - ATI Radeon 9550

Features at a glance

DirectPlay of the Microsoft® DirectX® 9 brings improved multiplayer access to groups connecting over LANs and the Internet

System Requirements

Intel® Pentium® 4/III/Celeron™, AMD® Duron™/Athlon®/Athlon XP® or compatible
with
AGP 4X (1.5V), 8X (0.8v) or Universal AGP 3.0 bus configuration (4X/8X)

480MB of system memory

Windows® 2000, or XP

specs:

http://www.diamondmm.com/images/mate...spec_sheet.pdf

say compatable with Win 2000. XP & Me

Death · 11-11-2006, 12:24 PM

It has worked many times before, but not this time :( . ATI has drivers for Win98SE. That says something about it.

Edit: DirectX 8 and DirectX 7 both say the same thing...

Death · 11-11-2006, 01:00 PM

Ok, I decided that I will go back with Windows XP. Can someone tell me if this is true or not:

That DirectX 9.0c needs a lot of RAM, and I only have 256 MB RAM.
And if DirectX 8 will work better on my computer which has a CPU of 800MHz Intel P3

What I'm trying to find out is, will DirectX 8 make me lag less that DirectX 9?

Death · 11-11-2006, 06:29 PM

Which OS should I run:

Windows 98 SE
Windows 2000
Windows XP Professional SP2

800 MHz
256 MB RAM

10-31-2006, 05:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
Death Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 235 OS: Windows XP Professional Service Pack Two	DirectX 9.0c. DirectX 9.0c doesn't work with Windows 98 Second Edition anymore. It said that some files with my graphics card drivers didn't go well with it... this is what it says: The file ATI2DRAG.DRV is not digitally signed, which means that it has not been tested by Microsoft's Windows Hardware Quality Labs (WHQL). Current drivers tested for a WHQL logo are only available on Windows ME, Windows 2000, and Windows XP. New Windows 98 drivers are no longer tested for WHQL logos. To test DirectDraw functionality, click the "Test DirectDraw" button above. To test Direct3D functionality, click the "Test Direct3D" button above. When I click on Test Direct3D, it closes DXDiag.

11-03-2006, 06:55 AM	#5 (permalink)
Done_Fishin Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brit living in Greece Posts: 7,527 OS: WinME, WinXP Pro SP3, Win7 Beta, Ubuntu 9.04 & Netbook Remix & CD2USB, Mepis 6.5, Fedora 10 My System	It could be that you have corrupt drivers. Check out the latest drivers for your card and either do an upgrade driver or re-install driver to see if that helps. I had a similar problem in XP recently when virtually every driver it tried to install came up with that "not signed by Microssoft" warning. I ended up doing a repair install (easier in Win9x you just re-install over the top) to reset all the drivers in the install. __________________ . . I'm not old!! I'm age impaired .. D_F I DON'T PLAY GAMES How to mark your thread as solved HDD DIAG UTILS TSF's Photographer's Corner

11-03-2006, 04:18 PM	#7 (permalink)
Done_Fishin Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brit living in Greece Posts: 7,527 OS: WinME, WinXP Pro SP3, Win7 Beta, Ubuntu 9.04 & Netbook Remix & CD2USB, Mepis 6.5, Fedora 10 My System	good luck & keep us informed about how you fare. If we can vbe of any further assistance .. we''ll be here __________________ . . I'm not old!! I'm age impaired .. D_F I DON'T PLAY GAMES How to mark your thread as solved HDD DIAG UTILS TSF's Photographer's Corner

11-05-2006, 02:21 PM	#9 (permalink)
Done_Fishin Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brit living in Greece Posts: 7,527 OS: WinME, WinXP Pro SP3, Win7 Beta, Ubuntu 9.04 & Netbook Remix & CD2USB, Mepis 6.5, Fedora 10 My System	Sorry it didn't work for you .. hope this next step does __________________ . . I'm not old!! I'm age impaired .. D_F I DON'T PLAY GAMES How to mark your thread as solved HDD DIAG UTILS TSF's Photographer's Corner

11-11-2006, 02:17 AM	#11 (permalink)
Done_Fishin Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brit living in Greece Posts: 7,527 OS: WinME, WinXP Pro SP3, Win7 Beta, Ubuntu 9.04 & Netbook Remix & CD2USB, Mepis 6.5, Fedora 10 My System	What graphics card do you have? __________________ . . I'm not old!! I'm age impaired .. D_F I DON'T PLAY GAMES How to mark your thread as solved HDD DIAG UTILS TSF's Photographer's Corner

10-31-2006, 09:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
Matrix720 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: harrisburg ar Posts: 138 OS: windows 98 se	Death. I have had this promblem once on my system. Check out your video card. sometimes they can go bad on your system and if that is not the promblem, then i would say try and upgrade your windows operating system but not to windows me i am sure the other guys in here would tell you anything is better then me.

11-01-2006, 07:44 AM	#3 (permalink)
Jlp1928 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 441 OS: Win98, XP, 2000	Hi, The error message does not mean that the driver is bad. It means that Microsoft has not approved it. If it works OK then just forget the message. Good Luck, Jim

11-01-2006, 10:00 AM	#4 (permalink)
Death Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 235 OS: Windows XP Professional Service Pack Two	It doesn't work though. Direct3D doesn't work when I test it (even the DirectX 7.0 interface.). Only DireectDraw works. When I try to run Battlefield 1942, it closes and won't load up.

11-03-2006, 03:30 PM	#6 (permalink)
Death Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 235 OS: Windows XP Professional Service Pack Two	Ok, I guess it was just a faulty install... when I find the time, I will do a reinstall of Windows 98. Thanks for the help :) .

11-05-2006, 01:09 PM	#8 (permalink)
Death Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 235 OS: Windows XP Professional Service Pack Two	It still doesn't work. I reinstall Windows 98SE...

11-10-2006, 09:49 PM	#10 (permalink)
Death Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 235 OS: Windows XP Professional Service Pack Two	What next step? I reinstalled it 3 times already, and nothing happens :( .

11-11-2006, 10:14 AM	#12 (permalink)
Death Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 235 OS: Windows XP Professional Service Pack Two	ATI Radeon 9550 AGP - 256 MB.

11-11-2006, 12:24 PM	#15 (permalink)
Death Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 235 OS: Windows XP Professional Service Pack Two	It has worked many times before, but not this time :( . ATI has drivers for Win98SE. That says something about it. Edit: DirectX 8 and DirectX 7 both say the same thing... Last edited by Death; 11-11-2006 at 12:48 PM.

11-11-2006, 01:00 PM	#16 (permalink)
Death Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 235 OS: Windows XP Professional Service Pack Two	Ok, I decided that I will go back with Windows XP. Can someone tell me if this is true or not: That DirectX 9.0c needs a lot of RAM, and I only have 256 MB RAM. And if DirectX 8 will work better on my computer which has a CPU of 800MHz Intel P3 What I'm trying to find out is, will DirectX 8 make me lag less that DirectX 9?

11-11-2006, 06:29 PM	#17 (permalink)
Death Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 235 OS: Windows XP Professional Service Pack Two	Which OS should I run: Windows 98 SE Windows 2000 Windows XP Professional SP2 800 MHz 256 MB RAM