ping

rbig · 08-30-2004, 09:10 AM

my pings aren't going anywhere. I chose approx 10 web sites at random in my Favoites list, and went to them. They loaded fine. I pinged each one while I was parked on it. The pings times out and told me 4 lost packets.

How can this be? Does this make sense that I can't get the right ping response from a URL I'm viewing????

elf · 08-30-2004, 09:22 AM

pinging is on a different port than IE(80)...it is highly likely, nay assured they have this port blocked to prevent people from pinging their machine to death.

Also just because you are viewing the site doesn't mean you have an open connection with it

rbig · 08-30-2004, 10:21 AM

Thanks. Good info and good to know. I'm a complete newbie to the ping stuff, and had no idea what is normal or not.

Volt-Schwibe · 08-30-2004, 02:32 PM

it could also be your firewall blocking the ping command, or the ping port.

do you have a firewall?
does it ask you if stuff can connect, like zonealarm does?

**Fox** · 08-30-2004, 02:35 PM

Some websites don't allow you to ping them. For example, it is impossible to get a ping response from microsoft.com

I don't believe ping uses a port, but I could be wrong.

elf · 08-30-2004, 02:43 PM

I don't know if it does...but I know you can specify a port#

elf · 08-30-2004, 02:44 PM

I don't know if it does...but I know you can specify a port

wouldn't it have to ping a certain port? or can it just ping the entire ip and wait for a response from one port?

**johnwill** · 08-30-2004, 09:28 PM

Ping uses an ICMP request, and many sites indeed reject PING requests as a security measure. If you can contact the site normally with HTTP, there is no issue as far as failure to respond to a PING request.

08-30-2004, 09:10 AM	#1 (permalink)
rbig Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 79 OS: win xp	ping my pings aren't going anywhere. I chose approx 10 web sites at random in my Favoites list, and went to them. They loaded fine. I pinged each one while I was parked on it. The pings times out and told me 4 lost packets. How can this be? Does this make sense that I can't get the right ping response from a URL I'm viewing????

08-30-2004, 09:22 AM	#2 (permalink)
elf Manager, Microsoft Support Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Knoxville, TN or Austin, TX depending Posts: 7,049 OS: WinXP Pro SP3 and Windows 7 My System	pinging is on a different port than IE(80)...it is highly likely, nay assured they have this port blocked to prevent people from pinging their machine to death. Also just because you are viewing the site doesn't mean you have an open connection with it __________________ If TSF has helped you, Tell us about it! or Donate to help keep the site up! I do not subscribe to threads, so if I stop replying, PM me with a link to your thread so I can find it again.

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Volt-Schwibe Asst. Manager, Automotive Forums; HJT Trainee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Behind you, watching you as you type. Posts: 7,372 OS: Click "My System" to view details My System	it could also be your firewall blocking the ping command, or the ping port. do you have a firewall? does it ask you if stuff can connect, like zonealarm does? __________________ <signature> TSF is funded by our Admin's pocket, care to help? Power Tip: Subscribe to your thread (Thread Tools) to receive an instant email notification when you get a reply. New Members: Creating a single new thread in the correct section is the best way to assure your thread will receive a reply. </signature>

08-30-2004, 02:43 PM	#6 (permalink)
elf Manager, Microsoft Support Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Knoxville, TN or Austin, TX depending Posts: 7,049 OS: WinXP Pro SP3 and Windows 7 My System	I don't know if it does...but I know you can specify a port# __________________ If TSF has helped you, Tell us about it! or Donate to help keep the site up! I do not subscribe to threads, so if I stop replying, PM me with a link to your thread so I can find it again.

08-30-2004, 02:44 PM	#7 (permalink)
elf Manager, Microsoft Support Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Knoxville, TN or Austin, TX depending Posts: 7,049 OS: WinXP Pro SP3 and Windows 7 My System	I don't know if it does...but I know you can specify a port wouldn't it have to ping a certain port? or can it just ping the entire ip and wait for a response from one port? __________________ If TSF has helped you, Tell us about it! or Donate to help keep the site up! I do not subscribe to threads, so if I stop replying, PM me with a link to your thread so I can find it again.

08-30-2004, 10:21 AM	#3 (permalink)
rbig Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 79 OS: win xp	Thanks. Good info and good to know. I'm a complete newbie to the ping stuff, and had no idea what is normal or not.

08-30-2004, 02:35 PM	#5 (permalink)
Fox TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: NJ Posts: 7,752 OS: XP Pro, CentOS My System	Some websites don't allow you to ping them. For example, it is impossible to get a ping response from microsoft.com I don't believe ping uses a port, but I could be wrong.

08-30-2004, 09:28 PM	#8 (permalink)
johnwill Manager, Networking Forums Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania, US Posts: 41,912 OS: Windows 7, XP-Pro, Vista, Linux Blog Entries: 1	Ping uses an ICMP request, and many sites indeed reject PING requests as a security measure. If you can contact the site normally with HTTP, there is no issue as far as failure to respond to a PING request. __________________ If TSF has helped you, Tell us about it! or Donate to help keep the site up! Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience