Panoramas - Page 2

**grimx133** · 08-29-2009, 08:49 AM

I had taken some in May with the idea of a pano or two. First try at it. Might be the program, bit wonky around the edges, so I cropped this on. It's the lake my parents live on north of Thunder Bay, ON. Same day as the goose picture.

edit -
ok, so that isn't quite right, take two eh.

**Done_Fishin** · 08-29-2009, 12:06 PM

What are you using to merge the photo's .. I used to use Panorama Factory 3.1 (created the panorama above) however I tried Photoshop CS4 only to get totally different results .. I also tried Hugin which is Free but requires "brainpower" and patience.

DonaldG · 08-30-2009, 02:08 AM

CS3 & CS4 create brilliant panos - far better than any of the other pano software that I have used.

**grimx133** · 08-30-2009, 02:13 AM

I used autostitch, from a guy at the University of British Columbia. http://people.cs.ubc.ca/~mbrown/auto...utostitch.html
See if I can put a scaled down one of the harbour. Shows how the
top edge is a bit ragged.

DonaldG · 08-30-2009, 02:32 AM

For this one, on a 21Mpx full frame camera, 5 vertical frames were stitched together, ended up as 12,200 pixels wide and file size of nearly 200Mb! It took my poor old laptop nearly 10 minutes to process it!

The reason for taking vertical shots was because I could not get further away, even with a 28mm wide angle. Hence the distortion....

**Done_Fishin** · 08-30-2009, 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grimx133

the top edge is a bit ragged.

That is quite normal .. you'll need to use the cropping function to remove it ..

part of the problem comes from slight differences in the "horizontal plane" between shots whilst the rest comes from the fact that photo's are "reconditioned" according to focal length (35mm for Film and variable for digital see http://www.panoramafactory.com/equiv35/equiv35.html for an explanation)

take these 3 pictures

They will first be converted to compensate for the given focal length and view point.

they then get stitched together to form this

or this

depending upon what software you are using or what conditions you apply

the photographer would the crop & edit the photo according to his taste

**grimx133** · 08-30-2009, 07:15 AM

Well that makes sense then, thought it was the program, or my hand held shots. The harbour one I actually shot more frames in close to a 180 degree arc. Have to fool around with that a bit later. Would of liked to put in the dead grain elevator that was to my left.

**Done_Fishin** · 08-30-2009, 08:28 AM

when you want to stitch photo's together to make a panorama or even a 360 degree scene try yo ensure about a 30% lapping of each photo .. even better place your camera on a tripod that has been set to vertical using the calibration "bubble" that should be on the tripod, otherwise you'll have to use a plumbers line and measure to each leg.

My shots above were handheld, using a convenient bit of rock to steady the camera. the overlapping helps to calculate the horizontal as well as makes things easier stitching the pictures.

**WereBo** · 08-30-2009, 03:49 PM

As an aside to these, there's a website here, that takes panoramic shots to the next level - Immersive VR photography, using techniques like Spherical-Projection or Cubic-Projection.

There's tutorials, software and loads of samples, including a couple of mind-blowing views of the Grand Canyon in 360x180 view (360 degree surround and 180 degree up and down!!!). It's best viewed full-screen and you can either 'Auto-rotate' or click 'n' drag your mouse - Oh, and make sure you're sat down

I'd love to watch this using a pair of those 'Hi-Def VR' goggles

NormanA · 08-31-2009, 09:22 AM

Here's one I did on a trip to Sedona AZ.

NormanA · 08-31-2009, 09:44 AM

Here's a better version.

DonaldG · 08-31-2009, 03:12 PM

Ships graveyard, Brittany, France today. - untweaked - orginal = 17,836 pixels wide, 5490px high. Made from 7 images, handheld. Stiched in Photoshop CS3 on my poor stuggling 4 year old laptop...(Can't wait to get back to my quad core beast back home...)

Part of my 'unloved' portfolio!

EDIT: Hi Norman

Welcome to TSF & especially to the Photographer's Corner

**wrench97** · 08-31-2009, 03:55 PM

How much is the one on the right I need a new project?

Nice images Donald:)

**Done_Fishin** · 08-31-2009, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrench97

How much is the one on the right I need a new project?

Nice images Donald:)

you want to rebuild it or use photoshop to make it look like new ???

**wrench97** · 08-31-2009, 04:19 PM

Why rebuild of course.

**Basementgeek** · 08-31-2009, 07:40 PM

Hi all:

I take it Panoramas are about the same thing as Panoramic.

I do have a panoramic picture hanging in my basement, it is over 4 feet long.
It was never digitally put together, it is black and white, and taken in El Paso Texas (USA) along the Mexican border, it is an original print. It was taken in 1916.

It had to be taken with a panoramic camera. I wish I could share it with you.

BG

DonaldG · 09-01-2009, 01:56 AM

Hi BG
Yes, it is the same thing; panorama/pano/panoramic...

About a 100 years ago, when I was 15, My first photographic job was with a company who produced those panoramic photos of school pupils. I was done with a camera that was on a motorised panning head and as it swung round, the film was transported across the focal plane, synchronised, so that a very long negative was produced.

The same type of camera was used for scenic panoramic images. Now a days, it is easy to produce panos with digital images without the specialised camera.

JBSFFUN · 09-06-2009, 02:40 PM

A rainbow in the park by my house Tucson,Az

JBSFFUN · 09-06-2009, 02:43 PM

Trying to get the rainbow full sized.

**Done_Fishin** · 09-06-2009, 02:46 PM

Hi & Welcome
Your photo looks full sized to me when I open in a new window so don't despair

Hope you rushed up to the end, found your leprechaun and his pot of gold

nice picture

08-29-2009, 08:49 AM	#21 (permalink)
grimx133 Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Canada eh Posts: 3,144 OS: xp mce sp2, xp pro sp2, windows 7 beta My System	Re: Panoramas I had taken some in May with the idea of a pano or two. First try at it. Might be the program, bit wonky around the edges, so I cropped this on. It's the lake my parents live on north of Thunder Bay, ON. Same day as the goose picture. edit - ok, so that isn't quite right, take two eh. __________________ Last edited by grimx133; 08-29-2009 at 08:53 AM.

08-29-2009, 12:06 PM	#22 (permalink)
Done_Fishin Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brit living in Greece Posts: 7,510 OS: WinME, WinXP Pro SP3, Win7 Beta, Ubuntu 9.04 & Netbook Remix & CD2USB, Mepis 6.5, Fedora 10 My System	Re: Panoramas What are you using to merge the photo's .. I used to use Panorama Factory 3.1 (created the panorama above) however I tried Photoshop CS4 only to get totally different results .. I also tried Hugin which is Free but requires "brainpower" and patience. __________________ . . I'm not old!! I'm age impaired .. D_F I DON'T PLAY GAMES How to mark your thread as solved HDD DIAG UTILS TSF's Photographer's Corner

08-30-2009, 02:08 AM	#23 (permalink)
DonaldG Manager Home Support, Assistant Manager Articles Team Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Somerset, UK Posts: 10,164 OS: XPsp2 Laptop & Vista Ultimate Desktop My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Panoramas CS3 & CS4 create brilliant panos - far better than any of the other pano software that I have used. __________________ . Lest we forget... "They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old; Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning We will remember them." Submit New Articles Here TSF's Photographer's Corner .

08-30-2009, 02:13 AM	#24 (permalink)
grimx133 Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Canada eh Posts: 3,144 OS: xp mce sp2, xp pro sp2, windows 7 beta My System	Re: Panoramas I used autostitch, from a guy at the University of British Columbia. http://people.cs.ubc.ca/~mbrown/auto...utostitch.html See if I can put a scaled down one of the harbour. Shows how the top edge is a bit ragged. __________________ Last edited by grimx133; 08-30-2009 at 02:19 AM.

08-30-2009, 02:32 AM	#25 (permalink)
DonaldG Manager Home Support, Assistant Manager Articles Team Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Somerset, UK Posts: 10,164 OS: XPsp2 Laptop & Vista Ultimate Desktop My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Panoramas For this one, on a 21Mpx full frame camera, 5 vertical frames were stitched together, ended up as 12,200 pixels wide and file size of nearly 200Mb! It took my poor old laptop nearly 10 minutes to process it! The reason for taking vertical shots was because I could not get further away, even with a 28mm wide angle. Hence the distortion.... __________________ . Lest we forget... "They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old; Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning We will remember them." Submit New Articles Here TSF's Photographer's Corner .

08-30-2009, 07:15 AM	#27 (permalink)
grimx133 Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Canada eh Posts: 3,144 OS: xp mce sp2, xp pro sp2, windows 7 beta My System	Re: Panoramas Well that makes sense then, thought it was the program, or my hand held shots. The harbour one I actually shot more frames in close to a 180 degree arc. Have to fool around with that a bit later. Would of liked to put in the dead grain elevator that was to my left. __________________

08-30-2009, 08:28 AM	#28 (permalink)
Done_Fishin Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brit living in Greece Posts: 7,510 OS: WinME, WinXP Pro SP3, Win7 Beta, Ubuntu 9.04 & Netbook Remix & CD2USB, Mepis 6.5, Fedora 10 My System	Re: Panoramas when you want to stitch photo's together to make a panorama or even a 360 degree scene try yo ensure about a 30% lapping of each photo .. even better place your camera on a tripod that has been set to vertical using the calibration "bubble" that should be on the tripod, otherwise you'll have to use a plumbers line and measure to each leg. My shots above were handheld, using a convenient bit of rock to steady the camera. the overlapping helps to calculate the horizontal as well as makes things easier stitching the pictures. __________________ . . I'm not old!! I'm age impaired .. D_F I DON'T PLAY GAMES How to mark your thread as solved HDD DIAG UTILS TSF's Photographer's Corner

08-30-2009, 03:49 PM	#29 (permalink)
WereBo Resident Village Idiot Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: SE London, UK Posts: 14,475 OS: Win-7, XP-Pro SP3 My System	Re: Panoramas As an aside to these, there's a website here, that takes panoramic shots to the next level - Immersive VR photography, using techniques like Spherical-Projection or Cubic-Projection. There's tutorials, software and loads of samples, including a couple of mind-blowing views of the Grand Canyon in 360x180 view (360 degree surround and 180 degree up and down!!!). It's best viewed full-screen and you can either 'Auto-rotate' or click 'n' drag your mouse - Oh, and make sure you're sat down I'd love to watch this using a pair of those 'Hi-Def VR' goggles __________________ I shall meet all of my deadlines directly in proportion to the amount of bodily injury I could expect to receive from missing them.

08-31-2009, 03:12 PM	#32 (permalink)
DonaldG Manager Home Support, Assistant Manager Articles Team Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Somerset, UK Posts: 10,164 OS: XPsp2 Laptop & Vista Ultimate Desktop My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Panoramas Ships graveyard, Brittany, France today. - untweaked - orginal = 17,836 pixels wide, 5490px high. Made from 7 images, handheld. Stiched in Photoshop CS3 on my poor stuggling 4 year old laptop...(Can't wait to get back to my quad core beast back home...) Part of my 'unloved' portfolio! EDIT: Hi Norman Welcome to TSF & especially to the Photographer's Corner __________________ . Lest we forget... "They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old; Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning We will remember them." Submit New Articles Here TSF's Photographer's Corner . Last edited by DonaldG; 08-31-2009 at 03:46 PM. Reason: spullig

08-31-2009, 03:55 PM	#33 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,579 OS: Win7	Re: Panoramas How much is the one on the right I need a new project? Nice images Donald:) __________________ Power Supply and Selection

08-31-2009, 04:19 PM	#35 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,579 OS: Win7	Re: Panoramas Why rebuild of course. __________________ Power Supply and Selection

08-31-2009, 07:40 PM	#36 (permalink)
Basementgeek Moderator, Home Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Central Ohio, USA Posts: 1,500 OS: XP Pro SP2/Vista Ultimate SP2 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Panoramas Hi all: I take it Panoramas are about the same thing as Panoramic. I do have a panoramic picture hanging in my basement, it is over 4 feet long. It was never digitally put together, it is black and white, and taken in El Paso Texas (USA) along the Mexican border, it is an original print. It was taken in 1916. It had to be taken with a panoramic camera. I wish I could share it with you. BG __________________ Donating to the forum keeps TSF free for all. Proud member of ASAP

09-01-2009, 01:56 AM	#37 (permalink)
DonaldG Manager Home Support, Assistant Manager Articles Team Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Somerset, UK Posts: 10,164 OS: XPsp2 Laptop & Vista Ultimate Desktop My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Panoramas Hi BG Yes, it is the same thing; panorama/pano/panoramic... About a 100 years ago, when I was 15, My first photographic job was with a company who produced those panoramic photos of school pupils. I was done with a camera that was on a motorised panning head and as it swung round, the film was transported across the focal plane, synchronised, so that a very long negative was produced. The same type of camera was used for scenic panoramic images. Now a days, it is easy to produce panos with digital images without the specialised camera. __________________ . Lest we forget... "They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old; Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning We will remember them." Submit New Articles Here TSF's Photographer's Corner .

09-06-2009, 02:43 PM	#39 (permalink)
JBSFFUN Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 5 OS: Winxp	Re: Panoramas Trying to get the rainbow full sized.

09-06-2009, 02:46 PM	#40 (permalink)
Done_Fishin Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brit living in Greece Posts: 7,510 OS: WinME, WinXP Pro SP3, Win7 Beta, Ubuntu 9.04 & Netbook Remix & CD2USB, Mepis 6.5, Fedora 10 My System	Re: Panoramas Hi & Welcome Your photo looks full sized to me when I open in a new window so don't despair Hope you rushed up to the end, found your leprechaun and his pot of gold nice picture __________________ . . I'm not old!! I'm age impaired .. D_F I DON'T PLAY GAMES How to mark your thread as solved HDD DIAG UTILS TSF's Photographer's Corner