[SOLVED] Phillips widescreen tv display problem

deejay100six · 05-15-2008, 09:42 AM

Hi guys, has anyone any idea why the picture on this tv is wider than the screen on terrestrial tv, cable seems ok.Tried all aspect ratio's but when full width text comes on a big chunk missing on each side of screen.

Appreciate any help. Thanks.

And if it helps, i don't like my space or mobile phones either.

http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/d...EDIUM_25_28_SU

ebackhus · 05-15-2008, 02:31 PM

Heh, dork.

Based on what I've seen in the user's guide it's an EDTV, or Enhanced Definition TV. It may be having trouble coping with 16:9 native broadcasts as a true 16:9 image doesn't seem to be fully supported.

deejay100six · 05-16-2008, 06:26 AM

I only said that cos i'd been reading your blog 5 mins before that post.

Well, i used to be pretty good with this kinda stuff but that was when tv's had valves and if you had a problem first thing you did was give it a good thump on the case which worked sometimes, if not take the back off and if you find a valve not lit up go see this bloke down the village where he had a shed at the bottom of his garden full of bits he had taken from scrap tv's, ask him if he's got a ECF 6584W or whatever, give him a few pennies, sorted.

Anyway, sorry for boring you but what are you saying then? I may as well have thrown my £300 in the bin or can it be fixed.

Btw, whats your definition of a dork?

ebackhus · 05-19-2008, 04:25 PM

Well, if you intend on using this set it may be worth trying to sort the issue. See if you can find a TRUE 16:9 source (many DVDs that are 1.85:1 ratio will work, but avoid "anamorphic" for this) and see if anything is clipped at the edges or seems otherwise distorted.

deejay100six · 05-19-2008, 08:00 PM

I have a dvd recorder for which i found the user manual here;http://www.liteonit.com/global/index...pper&Itemid=75

Couldn't see anything in the specs though about 16:9 support.

Now you mention it everything does run ok through that if i remember right, the simplest solutions are sometimes right under your nose.

Is that what you meant, simply run my terrestrial tv through the DVD-R?

deejay100six · 05-23-2008, 04:17 PM

Had another look at this and it seems i am a "dork". The problem is actually cable tv, everything else is as well as can be expected given that i have a somewhat primitive set up to allow my wife to watch everything upstairs. I think some of the problems are due to splitters etc bought from cheapo shops and poor connections make it difficult to track any faults.

ebackhus · 05-25-2008, 09:02 AM

You gotta be VERY careful when buying splitters. Some filter out data while others simply can't carry the necessary bandwidth. I had this issue and it fubared my data and cable lines.

deejay100six · 05-25-2008, 11:42 AM

Yeah, but when i say splitter i mean in the simplest term, literally just splitting an aerial coax into 2, nothing techno about it.

Is fubared a real word or a typo

cancel that, just googled it.

deejay100six · 06-18-2008, 07:03 AM

Hi EB, sorted it. had chat to a cable guy doing an install at a house i was working in.

There are settings options on the cable box, just went in there and changed it to widescreen.

Thanks for your help.

ebackhus · 06-18-2008, 04:58 PM

It's so obvious! *hangs head in shame*

deejay100six · 06-19-2008, 07:39 AM

ebackhus · 06-19-2008, 01:09 PM

My cablebox doesn't have that option so that may be why it didn't click in my mind. I'm pretty locked out of it actually....

deejay100six · 08-14-2008, 05:53 PM

None of us should be expected to know everything.

05-15-2008, 09:42 AM	#1 (permalink)
deejay100six Tech, Microsoft Support Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Doncaster, England. Posts: 2,854 OS: win xp pro sp2 My System	[SOLVED] Phillips widescreen tv display problem Hi guys, has anyone any idea why the picture on this tv is wider than the screen on terrestrial tv, cable seems ok.Tried all aspect ratio's but when full width text comes on a big chunk missing on each side of screen. Appreciate any help. Thanks. And if it helps, i don't like my space or mobile phones either. http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/d...EDIUM_25_28_SU __________________ Regards, Dave. If it ain't broke, don't fix it..

05-15-2008, 02:31 PM	#2 (permalink)
ebackhus Asst. Manager, Design Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: SATX Posts: 12,733 OS: WinXP Pro SP3 My System Blog Entries: 25	Re: Phillips widescreen tv display problem Heh, dork. Based on what I've seen in the user's guide it's an EDTV, or Enhanced Definition TV. It may be having trouble coping with 16:9 native broadcasts as a true 16:9 image doesn't seem to be fully supported. __________________ ----------------------------- There are no dumb questions, unless a customer is asking them. Help in the fight against cancer and other serious illnesses.

05-16-2008, 06:26 AM	#3 (permalink)
deejay100six Tech, Microsoft Support Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Doncaster, England. Posts: 2,854 OS: win xp pro sp2 My System	Re: Phillips widescreen tv display problem I only said that cos i'd been reading your blog 5 mins before that post. Well, i used to be pretty good with this kinda stuff but that was when tv's had valves and if you had a problem first thing you did was give it a good thump on the case which worked sometimes, if not take the back off and if you find a valve not lit up go see this bloke down the village where he had a shed at the bottom of his garden full of bits he had taken from scrap tv's, ask him if he's got a ECF 6584W or whatever, give him a few pennies, sorted. Anyway, sorry for boring you but what are you saying then? I may as well have thrown my £300 in the bin or can it be fixed. Btw, whats your definition of a dork? __________________ Regards, Dave. If it ain't broke, don't fix it..

05-19-2008, 04:25 PM	#4 (permalink)
ebackhus Asst. Manager, Design Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: SATX Posts: 12,733 OS: WinXP Pro SP3 My System Blog Entries: 25	Re: Phillips widescreen tv display problem Well, if you intend on using this set it may be worth trying to sort the issue. See if you can find a TRUE 16:9 source (many DVDs that are 1.85:1 ratio will work, but avoid "anamorphic" for this) and see if anything is clipped at the edges or seems otherwise distorted. __________________ ----------------------------- There are no dumb questions, unless a customer is asking them. Help in the fight against cancer and other serious illnesses.

05-19-2008, 08:00 PM	#5 (permalink)
deejay100six Tech, Microsoft Support Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Doncaster, England. Posts: 2,854 OS: win xp pro sp2 My System	Re: Phillips widescreen tv display problem I have a dvd recorder for which i found the user manual here;http://www.liteonit.com/global/index...pper&Itemid=75 Couldn't see anything in the specs though about 16:9 support. Now you mention it everything does run ok through that if i remember right, the simplest solutions are sometimes right under your nose. Is that what you meant, simply run my terrestrial tv through the DVD-R? __________________ Regards, Dave. If it ain't broke, don't fix it..

05-23-2008, 04:17 PM	#6 (permalink)
deejay100six Tech, Microsoft Support Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Doncaster, England. Posts: 2,854 OS: win xp pro sp2 My System	Re: Phillips widescreen tv display problem Had another look at this and it seems i am a "dork". The problem is actually cable tv, everything else is as well as can be expected given that i have a somewhat primitive set up to allow my wife to watch everything upstairs. I think some of the problems are due to splitters etc bought from cheapo shops and poor connections make it difficult to track any faults. __________________ Regards, Dave. If it ain't broke, don't fix it..

05-25-2008, 09:02 AM	#7 (permalink)
ebackhus Asst. Manager, Design Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: SATX Posts: 12,733 OS: WinXP Pro SP3 My System Blog Entries: 25	Re: Phillips widescreen tv display problem You gotta be VERY careful when buying splitters. Some filter out data while others simply can't carry the necessary bandwidth. I had this issue and it fubared my data and cable lines. __________________ ----------------------------- There are no dumb questions, unless a customer is asking them. Help in the fight against cancer and other serious illnesses.

05-25-2008, 11:42 AM	#8 (permalink)
deejay100six Tech, Microsoft Support Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Doncaster, England. Posts: 2,854 OS: win xp pro sp2 My System	Re: Phillips widescreen tv display problem Yeah, but when i say splitter i mean in the simplest term, literally just splitting an aerial coax into 2, nothing techno about it. Is fubared a real word or a typo cancel that, just googled it. __________________ Regards, Dave. If it ain't broke, don't fix it..

06-18-2008, 07:03 AM	#9 (permalink)
deejay100six Tech, Microsoft Support Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Doncaster, England. Posts: 2,854 OS: win xp pro sp2 My System	Re: Phillips widescreen tv display problem Hi EB, sorted it. had chat to a cable guy doing an install at a house i was working in. There are settings options on the cable box, just went in there and changed it to widescreen. Thanks for your help. __________________ Regards, Dave. If it ain't broke, don't fix it..

06-18-2008, 04:58 PM	#10 (permalink)
ebackhus Asst. Manager, Design Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: SATX Posts: 12,733 OS: WinXP Pro SP3 My System Blog Entries: 25	Re: Phillips widescreen tv display problem It's so obvious! hangs head in shame __________________ ----------------------------- There are no dumb questions, unless a customer is asking them. Help in the fight against cancer and other serious illnesses.

06-19-2008, 07:39 AM	#11 (permalink)
deejay100six Tech, Microsoft Support Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Doncaster, England. Posts: 2,854 OS: win xp pro sp2 My System	Re: Phillips widescreen tv display problem __________________ Regards, Dave. If it ain't broke, don't fix it..

06-19-2008, 01:09 PM	#12 (permalink)
ebackhus Asst. Manager, Design Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: SATX Posts: 12,733 OS: WinXP Pro SP3 My System Blog Entries: 25	Re: Phillips widescreen tv display problem My cablebox doesn't have that option so that may be why it didn't click in my mind. I'm pretty locked out of it actually.... __________________ ----------------------------- There are no dumb questions, unless a customer is asking them. Help in the fight against cancer and other serious illnesses.

08-14-2008, 05:53 PM	#13 (permalink)
deejay100six Tech, Microsoft Support Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Doncaster, England. Posts: 2,854 OS: win xp pro sp2 My System	Re: Phillips widescreen tv display problem None of us should be expected to know everything. __________________ Regards, Dave. If it ain't broke, don't fix it..