VIVO / Component (YPbPr) question

bkdude · 11-12-2008, 07:06 PM

Hello, I'm trying to start up a cheap media rig for my 42 inch plasma screen, and I was wondering if a YPbPr cable would work in a VIVO (video in video out) slot. When I bought the video card that the computer uses (a 7600 GT) it came with a YPbPr cable with a 7-pin S-video end, but the video card itself uses 9-pin VIVO.

When I examined the 7-pin s-video and the 9-pin VIVO male/female connectors, I noticed the only real difference is the little plastic blocker in the s-video slot where the extra 2 pins for VIVO would be.

My question is, if I remove this plastic blocker, will 7-pin s-video/YPbPr cable work in the VIVO slot? If I need to, I can do some soldering to make it work. I have a 3rd computer that has a x1600 Pro card with a 7-pin s-video out, and it works fine with my YPbPr cable.

Any help will be greatly appreciated

**magnethead** · 11-13-2008, 08:25 PM

no.

those 2 pins are what enable the input fuction.

for S-video, you have 4 pins: 3 carry video and 1 is shielding (I believe, check internet for sure). Composite only uses 1 of these pins and the shielding. Ie on winTV, if i'm using a composite input but choose Svid channel, it's black and white. IF I use svid input and choose composite channel, it's still BW. If i choose proper channel, it's color.

For HD output, you have 3 more pins- the first 4 because Pb also serves as composite, the new 3 serve for the actual HD bandwidth.

Pin 8 and 9 are the input channels- for composite. 2 of those HD outputs get converted to input to carry Svid input

again, that's as i understand it from having used it on my 7800.

bkdude · 11-14-2008, 12:42 AM

Hmmm... I'm a tad bit confused. If the two extra pins used in VIVO are for input rather than output (which I suspected) wouldn't a 7-pin s-video YPbPr cable work? or are the outputs completely different between VIVO and 7-pin YPbPr?

Here's a pic of the cable I'm going to use with a simplified explanation, since my original explanation was a bit odd (i'm not too experienced with this sort of thing).

I want to plug one of these:

Into a female version of this on my 7600 GT:

And plug the YPbPr into my TV to in effect use my TV as a giant monitor.

If this is in no way shape or form possible, tell me :)

Thank You :p

**magnethead** · 11-15-2008, 11:32 PM

You can break that 3mm plastic clip out of the 7 pin and it will work fine.

bkdude · 11-16-2008, 01:45 AM

Alright. I'll try that sometime tommorow. Thanks :)

ebackhus · 11-16-2008, 09:41 AM

I use a simple DVI->HDMI cable.

bkdude · 11-16-2008, 02:57 PM

I might try that if I see one available, but for the time being I want to see if 7-pin and 9-pin are compatable. I'm going to try it in a few hours...

I don't know if the GIGABYTE 7600 GT supports audio output with an adapter like that... I think ATI cards are more well-known for that compatability. For the time being I'll stick with my original plan :)

11-12-2008, 07:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
bkdude Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 40 OS: Windows Vista Ultimate x86 My System	VIVO / Component (YPbPr) question Hello, I'm trying to start up a cheap media rig for my 42 inch plasma screen, and I was wondering if a YPbPr cable would work in a VIVO (video in video out) slot. When I bought the video card that the computer uses (a 7600 GT) it came with a YPbPr cable with a 7-pin S-video end, but the video card itself uses 9-pin VIVO. When I examined the 7-pin s-video and the 9-pin VIVO male/female connectors, I noticed the only real difference is the little plastic blocker in the s-video slot where the extra 2 pins for VIVO would be. My question is, if I remove this plastic blocker, will 7-pin s-video/YPbPr cable work in the VIVO slot? If I need to, I can do some soldering to make it work. I have a 3rd computer that has a x1600 Pro card with a 7-pin s-video out, and it works fine with my YPbPr cable. Any help will be greatly appreciated

11-13-2008, 08:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
magnethead Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Texas, USA Posts: 3,570 OS: Vista ultimate 32bit My System Blog Entries: 3	Re: VIVO / Component (YPbPr) question no. those 2 pins are what enable the input fuction. for S-video, you have 4 pins: 3 carry video and 1 is shielding (I believe, check internet for sure). Composite only uses 1 of these pins and the shielding. Ie on winTV, if i'm using a composite input but choose Svid channel, it's black and white. IF I use svid input and choose composite channel, it's still BW. If i choose proper channel, it's color. For HD output, you have 3 more pins- the first 4 because Pb also serves as composite, the new 3 serve for the actual HD bandwidth. Pin 8 and 9 are the input channels- for composite. 2 of those HD outputs get converted to input to carry Svid input again, that's as i understand it from having used it on my 7800. __________________ For proper support: what are you running? graphics, cpu, m/board, ram, PSU brand wattage PCI-E requires 26 amps at 12 volts. That's a 650W PSU. Power Supply Info and Selection . Info on thermal compounds & application . TEST PSU USING MULTI-METER . Bench Testing Your System

11-14-2008, 12:42 AM	#3 (permalink)
bkdude Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 40 OS: Windows Vista Ultimate x86 My System	Re: VIVO / Component (YPbPr) question Hmmm... I'm a tad bit confused. If the two extra pins used in VIVO are for input rather than output (which I suspected) wouldn't a 7-pin s-video YPbPr cable work? or are the outputs completely different between VIVO and 7-pin YPbPr? Here's a pic of the cable I'm going to use with a simplified explanation, since my original explanation was a bit odd (i'm not too experienced with this sort of thing). I want to plug one of these: Into a female version of this on my 7600 GT: And plug the YPbPr into my TV to in effect use my TV as a giant monitor. If this is in no way shape or form possible, tell me :) Thank You :p Last edited by bkdude; 11-14-2008 at 12:44 AM.

11-15-2008, 11:32 PM	#4 (permalink)
magnethead Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Texas, USA Posts: 3,570 OS: Vista ultimate 32bit My System Blog Entries: 3	Re: VIVO / Component (YPbPr) question You can break that 3mm plastic clip out of the 7 pin and it will work fine. __________________ For proper support: what are you running? graphics, cpu, m/board, ram, PSU brand wattage PCI-E requires 26 amps at 12 volts. That's a 650W PSU. Power Supply Info and Selection . Info on thermal compounds & application . TEST PSU USING MULTI-METER . Bench Testing Your System

11-16-2008, 01:45 AM	#5 (permalink)
bkdude Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 40 OS: Windows Vista Ultimate x86 My System	Re: VIVO / Component (YPbPr) question Alright. I'll try that sometime tommorow. Thanks :)

11-16-2008, 09:41 AM	#6 (permalink)
ebackhus Manager, Design Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: SATX Posts: 14,243 OS: WinXP Pro SP3/Windows 7 RTM My System Blog Entries: 28	Re: VIVO / Component (YPbPr) question I use a simple DVI->HDMI cable. __________________ ----------------------------- There are no dumb questions, unless a customer is asking them. Help in the fight against cancer and other serious illnesses.

11-16-2008, 02:57 PM	#7 (permalink)
bkdude Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 40 OS: Windows Vista Ultimate x86 My System	Re: VIVO / Component (YPbPr) question I might try that if I see one available, but for the time being I want to see if 7-pin and 9-pin are compatable. I'm going to try it in a few hours... I don't know if the GIGABYTE 7600 GT supports audio output with an adapter like that... I think ATI cards are more well-known for that compatability. For the time being I'll stick with my original plan :) Last edited by bkdude; 11-16-2008 at 02:58 PM.