Need desperate support :)

Saintan · 03-18-2006, 05:50 AM

Okay,

Ibought a new nVidia graphics card and put into my computer got it set up and it froze everytime i tried to run something with like basic graphics, so i posted on this forum and i was told to get a new power supply as the old one was only 300W i got myself a new one at 500W and the box on the graphics card says that it needs a minumum of 300W so this is not the problem anymore.....

I put the power supply in the computer ran the game i have been trying to play and lone behold same problem....

What is the real problem i have spent annother £200 getting this computer to work by trying all of the suggestions everywhere so what is wrong my details are in annother post by me...... dunno if you have a search function but ti should be lying arround still.....

Help me plz

Saintan · 03-18-2006, 05:56 AM

i found the old post to help you out

http://www.techsupportforum.com/vide...-graphics.html

Saintan · 03-18-2006, 09:07 AM

could do with having this sorted out asap lol preferably before monday but i am not trying to be cheeky :)

You guys are doing the favour so i can wait tbh :P

**jnob** · 03-18-2006, 09:17 AM

exactly what power supply did you buy?

elf · 03-18-2006, 09:46 AM

Download and install the newest drivers for your card if you have not already done so. I skimmed your previous post and there doesn't seem to be any mention of drivers, and they are vitally important to a functioning video card.

The newest ones can be found HERE

edit: oh wait, I just saw you said you did have the newest ones. Does it freeze in every game or just one particular game?

Saintan · 03-18-2006, 05:14 PM

ATX 500W CE P4(2A) <----- That is the power supply

It happens on many things including x-fire and watching videos etc

**jnob** · 03-18-2006, 05:34 PM

I agree with elf it sounds more like a software problem than a hardware problem.

**jnob** · 03-18-2006, 05:40 PM

How's the temp of your cpu. If you system doesn't have a monitor download speedfan or a similar program and monitor your temp. Your cpu could be getting too hot. You can also go into the bios and watch the cpu temp under system health. If it gets to 60C fast and keeps climbing you probably need to reseat your cpu heatsink and apply new thermal compound.

Tumbleweed36 · 03-18-2006, 05:51 PM

Hi,

I would do the suggestion that Jnob gave you before you get any further. Heat can cause exactly what you describe, but that does not mean this is the issue.

I would however prefer you report your temps and let us (any tech on here) talk to you about them before you take action. That way we might have multiple solutions or some real simple ones depending upon what you found.

Post back with results.

olemuso · 03-18-2006, 05:56 PM

I had two Nvidia cards on which the fans stopped. This caused the chip to overheat and caused problems. Check your fan is working properly.

Saintan · 03-18-2006, 06:57 PM

i have downloaded that program and i am uploading a screan shot of the desktop atm once the program is running tell me of any problems :)

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...s/untitled.jpg

Tumbleweed36 · 03-18-2006, 07:16 PM

Hi,

For the life of me, I can't get your photobucket picture large enough to see anything, therefore, can't help with what it says. The outline picture on the outside is very large, but the things we need to see are very, very small so we can't read what it says. Perhaps jnob can get it large enough to read, or you can simply copy the stats for us to view. Sorry.

Saintan · 03-18-2006, 08:21 PM

okay i see what you mean the fans said

1: 0 rpm
2: 0 rpm
3: 0 rpm
4: 995 rpm

the temperatures said

cpu: 44C
and others arround that sort of temperature....

Saintan · 03-18-2006, 08:49 PM

anyways it's 4 in the morn so i am off to bed......

I adjusted the speeds of the fans to 100% and nothing at all happened no noise no increased rpm nothing at all.....

Tumbleweed36 · 03-19-2006, 05:12 AM

Hi,

Good morning. When you get into it again, post the rest of the Speedfan readings. Like cpu - 44c, etc. Also, post the voltages that it gives you. If you could just blow that thing up, it would work. If you are using a direct connection and not a monitor from the power supply to the fans, it would not list them and as long as they are working, don't sweat that one.

Saintan · 03-19-2006, 05:26 PM

It is a brand new computer so i am not expecting to have to change any thermal compunds at all i should hope....

But i have gone and found a file hosting thing on google as not even the attach thing seems to want to work and here is the link for it.....

http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=52695

You must look at the file within 30 days or it will delete itself off of the site....

**jnob** · 03-19-2006, 06:59 PM

Tumbleweed36 · 03-20-2006, 05:08 AM

Hi,

Did you load the graphics drivers that elf lead you to? Just seems that there is some "little" thing that is keeping this card from working properly. The 45c for rest is too hot, but I can't believe that it gets that much hotter under stress. Just for kicks, put this baby through stress (playing the game) and then take a temp reading before it crashes. Just see how hot it gets.

Saintan · 03-20-2006, 09:39 AM

the game does not load at all anything with a sort of graphics does not work, i tried to watch a widows media player video and the computer crashed....
I have installed the most recent drivers......
Any1 in the UK is welcome to come and fix it tbh lol.........

What sort of little things could be wrong i can not think of anything that i have not tried...

**jnob** · 03-20-2006, 10:24 AM

Did you put this PC together yourself? Where did you buy it from? Your internal temperature seems ok but the processor is hot. Your fan speed seems low for a processor fan, my stock fan runs between 2500 and 4500rpms.

03-18-2006, 05:50 AM	#1 (permalink)
Saintan Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 30 OS: Windows XP Home Edition	Need desperate support :) Okay, Ibought a new nVidia graphics card and put into my computer got it set up and it froze everytime i tried to run something with like basic graphics, so i posted on this forum and i was told to get a new power supply as the old one was only 300W i got myself a new one at 500W and the box on the graphics card says that it needs a minumum of 300W so this is not the problem anymore..... I put the power supply in the computer ran the game i have been trying to play and lone behold same problem.... What is the real problem i have spent annother £200 getting this computer to work by trying all of the suggestions everywhere so what is wrong my details are in annother post by me...... dunno if you have a search function but ti should be lying arround still..... Help me plz

03-18-2006, 09:46 AM	#5 (permalink)
elf Manager, Microsoft Support Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Knoxville, TN or Austin, TX depending Posts: 7,038 OS: WinXP Pro SP3 and Windows 7 My System	Download and install the newest drivers for your card if you have not already done so. I skimmed your previous post and there doesn't seem to be any mention of drivers, and they are vitally important to a functioning video card. The newest ones can be found HERE edit: oh wait, I just saw you said you did have the newest ones. Does it freeze in every game or just one particular game? __________________ If TSF has helped you, Tell us about it! or Donate to help keep the site up! I do not subscribe to threads, so if I stop replying, PM me with a link to your thread so I can find it again. Last edited by elf; 03-18-2006 at 09:47 AM.

03-18-2006, 05:51 PM	#9 (permalink)
Tumbleweed36 Asst Manager Hardware Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 19,640 OS: XP Professional	Hi, I would do the suggestion that Jnob gave you before you get any further. Heat can cause exactly what you describe, but that does not mean this is the issue. I would however prefer you report your temps and let us (any tech on here) talk to you about them before you take action. That way we might have multiple solutions or some real simple ones depending upon what you found. Post back with results. __________________ ---------- I don't receive email notifications of replies to subscribed threads. (Internet provider policy) Therefore, if I don't respond to your post within 24 hours, please send me a reminder PM and include the link to your thread.

03-18-2006, 07:16 PM	#12 (permalink)
Tumbleweed36 Asst Manager Hardware Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 19,640 OS: XP Professional	Hi, For the life of me, I can't get your photobucket picture large enough to see anything, therefore, can't help with what it says. The outline picture on the outside is very large, but the things we need to see are very, very small so we can't read what it says. Perhaps jnob can get it large enough to read, or you can simply copy the stats for us to view. Sorry. __________________ ---------- I don't receive email notifications of replies to subscribed threads. (Internet provider policy) Therefore, if I don't respond to your post within 24 hours, please send me a reminder PM and include the link to your thread. Last edited by Tumbleweed36; 03-18-2006 at 07:59 PM.

03-19-2006, 05:12 AM	#15 (permalink)
Tumbleweed36 Asst Manager Hardware Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 19,640 OS: XP Professional	Hi, Good morning. When you get into it again, post the rest of the Speedfan readings. Like cpu - 44c, etc. Also, post the voltages that it gives you. If you could just blow that thing up, it would work. If you are using a direct connection and not a monitor from the power supply to the fans, it would not list them and as long as they are working, don't sweat that one. __________________ ---------- I don't receive email notifications of replies to subscribed threads. (Internet provider policy) Therefore, if I don't respond to your post within 24 hours, please send me a reminder PM and include the link to your thread.

03-18-2006, 05:56 AM	#2 (permalink)
Saintan Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 30 OS: Windows XP Home Edition	i found the old post to help you out http://www.techsupportforum.com/vide...-graphics.html

03-18-2006, 09:07 AM	#3 (permalink)
Saintan Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 30 OS: Windows XP Home Edition	could do with having this sorted out asap lol preferably before monday but i am not trying to be cheeky :) You guys are doing the favour so i can wait tbh :P

03-18-2006, 09:17 AM	#4 (permalink)
jnob TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CA Valley Posts: 692 OS: XP Pro, SP2 My System	exactly what power supply did you buy?

03-18-2006, 05:14 PM	#6 (permalink)
Saintan Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 30 OS: Windows XP Home Edition	ATX 500W CE P4(2A) <----- That is the power supply It happens on many things including x-fire and watching videos etc

03-18-2006, 05:34 PM	#7 (permalink)
jnob TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CA Valley Posts: 692 OS: XP Pro, SP2 My System	I agree with elf it sounds more like a software problem than a hardware problem.

03-18-2006, 05:40 PM	#8 (permalink)
jnob TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CA Valley Posts: 692 OS: XP Pro, SP2 My System	How's the temp of your cpu. If you system doesn't have a monitor download speedfan or a similar program and monitor your temp. Your cpu could be getting too hot. You can also go into the bios and watch the cpu temp under system health. If it gets to 60C fast and keeps climbing you probably need to reseat your cpu heatsink and apply new thermal compound.

03-18-2006, 05:56 PM	#10 (permalink)
olemuso Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2 OS: XP Home	I had two Nvidia cards on which the fans stopped. This caused the chip to overheat and caused problems. Check your fan is working properly.

03-18-2006, 06:57 PM	#11 (permalink)
Saintan Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 30 OS: Windows XP Home Edition	i have downloaded that program and i am uploading a screan shot of the desktop atm once the program is running tell me of any problems :) http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...s/untitled.jpg

03-18-2006, 08:21 PM	#13 (permalink)
Saintan Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 30 OS: Windows XP Home Edition	okay i see what you mean the fans said 1: 0 rpm 2: 0 rpm 3: 0 rpm 4: 995 rpm the temperatures said cpu: 44C and others arround that sort of temperature....

03-18-2006, 08:49 PM	#14 (permalink)
Saintan Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 30 OS: Windows XP Home Edition	anyways it's 4 in the morn so i am off to bed...... I adjusted the speeds of the fans to 100% and nothing at all happened no noise no increased rpm nothing at all.....

03-19-2006, 05:26 PM	#16 (permalink)
Saintan Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 30 OS: Windows XP Home Edition	It is a brand new computer so i am not expecting to have to change any thermal compunds at all i should hope.... But i have gone and found a file hosting thing on google as not even the attach thing seems to want to work and here is the link for it..... http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=52695 You must look at the file within 30 days or it will delete itself off of the site....

03-19-2006, 06:59 PM	#17 (permalink)
jnob TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CA Valley Posts: 692 OS: XP Pro, SP2 My System

03-20-2006, 05:08 AM	#18 (permalink)
Tumbleweed36 Asst Manager Hardware Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 19,640 OS: XP Professional	Hi, Did you load the graphics drivers that elf lead you to? Just seems that there is some "little" thing that is keeping this card from working properly. The 45c for rest is too hot, but I can't believe that it gets that much hotter under stress. Just for kicks, put this baby through stress (playing the game) and then take a temp reading before it crashes. Just see how hot it gets. __________________ ---------- I don't receive email notifications of replies to subscribed threads. (Internet provider policy) Therefore, if I don't respond to your post within 24 hours, please send me a reminder PM and include the link to your thread.

03-20-2006, 09:39 AM	#19 (permalink)
Saintan Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 30 OS: Windows XP Home Edition	the game does not load at all anything with a sort of graphics does not work, i tried to watch a widows media player video and the computer crashed.... I have installed the most recent drivers...... Any1 in the UK is welcome to come and fix it tbh lol......... What sort of little things could be wrong i can not think of anything that i have not tried...

03-20-2006, 10:24 AM	#20 (permalink)
jnob TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CA Valley Posts: 692 OS: XP Pro, SP2 My System	Did you put this PC together yourself? Where did you buy it from? Your internal temperature seems ok but the processor is hot. Your fan speed seems low for a processor fan, my stock fan runs between 2500 and 4500rpms.