6800GS v.s X1600 PLZ ANSWER QUICK

XerXes09 · 01-17-2006, 05:41 PM

Which 1 Should I get ?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150118 (6800GS, 256bit, 256mb)
OR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161160 (X1600, 128bit, 256mb)

jamie_Ridler · 01-17-2006, 06:43 PM

Well im not to sure, but I think the X1600 is equiv to the geforce 7800... so even though its 128bit insted of 256bit, its of a higher model card.
Apart from that, I never liked ATI cards, and think a 256bit would be better, so I would personaly go with the 6800GS. Its an excelent card anyway.

**UncleMacro** · 01-17-2006, 06:45 PM

The 6800GS is worth the extra $20. It usually beats an X1600XT as seen here and here. The X1600XT has a weird design which includes only four ROPs which could be an achilles heel in some circumstances and also is a bit limited in memory bandwidth due to its 128 bit RAM. The 6800GS, on the other hand, is a very well balanced card with no weak spots.

XerXes09 · 01-17-2006, 07:23 PM

ooooooooops I Forgot to add I have a 288watt power supply man http://support.gateway.com/s/POWER/1...00929sp2.shtml Can I use any of thoose cards with this powersupply I am Told that I cannot upgrade the powersupply? If I cant get thoose cards which 1's will work with this powersupply? can u link me to newegg only links. Thanks You Guys So Much !

**UncleMacro** · 01-17-2006, 07:58 PM

That power supply is unlikely to work with either of those video cards. On paper, 15 amps at 12 volts isn't enough for those kinds of video cards. Sometimes, the power supplies included with machines like Gateways, HPs, and Dells are conservatively rated and can actually deliver more current than the specs would lead you to believe. So people can occasionally get away with adding a mid-range video card like a 6800GS. But I wouldn't count on it. You'll probably have problems as soon as the video card kicks into 3D mode and it starts sucking up lots of power.

As far as which video cards will work with that supply, you could run into trouble even with a 6600GT. If you add just about any kind of decent current video card, you could have serious trouble with a 288 watt supply. Are you sure you can't replace the power supply? The size given at Gateway's page is a standard ATX size.

By the way, do you have a link to the whole computer so folks can see what you're upgrading?

XerXes09 · 01-17-2006, 08:19 PM

http://support.gateway.com/s/PC/R/5876/5876nv.shtml

XerXes09 · 01-17-2006, 08:20 PM

Specs: http://support.gateway.com/s/PC/R/5876/5876nv.shtml
Can you post any videocards that will work with a 288watt powersupply ? plz thnx last post today gw c u 2 morrow gw

**UncleMacro** · 01-18-2006, 05:56 AM

I've looked at your computer's motherboard pictures and that looks like a standard ATX power supply to me. The rest of your machine is fairly quick so I'd personally get at least a 6800GS and then add a new power supply if necessary rather than compromise on a slower video card. This 4 pin connector and this 24 pin connector just look like the current version of ATX. I'm not sure why they would tell you that you can't replace it. You might call them again and make sure but that sure looks like a standard power supply. You can get a rough estimate of your power consumption using a power calculator. This is another one.

XerXes09 · 01-18-2006, 12:25 PM

The Turth is I dont noe how to install a powersupply, ive found wires leading to the USB and audio ports and they r un accesible but they come directly from the powersupply into a case inside where the usb, audio jacks are in the front (this is serperated from the rest of the comp by a whole which the wires go through, its a whole in a wall kinda. like this... (See Atachment) other than that I dont want to buy a new powersupply can't You please find me a card that will work with my existing powersupply? lol thanks

**UncleMacro** · 01-18-2006, 06:19 PM

Well, with a 300 watt power supply you really can't guarantee that a 6600GT (a very popular card) will work. They will usually work fine but sometimes they won't. 6600GTs are reasonably quick in their price range but they usually suggest at least 350 watts. So, if you want to play it safe you could get a GeForce 6600 DDR2. It's not the world's fastest video card but it's a huge step up from your onboard video and this particular video card is a relatively low power card for its speed. There are faster cards which sell for less but they will put more of a strain on your power supply. You could try a faster card and then underclock it to reduce power consumption if you have problems but there is some risk in taking that approach. The 6600 DDR2 is a reasonably safe choice.

XerXes09 · 02-12-2006, 11:11 AM

I installd the power supply and got the 6800GS only 1 problem its not a 7800GT other that than that, plays bf2 on ultra high setts with 70fps . Gr8 !

01-17-2006, 05:41 PM	#1 (permalink)
XerXes09 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 22 OS: XP	6800GS v.s X1600 PLZ ANSWER QUICK Which 1 Should I get ? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150118 (6800GS, 256bit, 256mb) OR http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161160 (X1600, 128bit, 256mb)

01-17-2006, 06:43 PM	#2 (permalink)
jamie_Ridler Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wellingborough, Northamponshire, England Posts: 341 OS: Windows Vista Home Premium My System	Well im not to sure, but I think the X1600 is equiv to the geforce 7800... so even though its 128bit insted of 256bit, its of a higher model card. Apart from that, I never liked ATI cards, and think a 256bit would be better, so I would personaly go with the 6800GS. Its an excelent card anyway. __________________ *Comp Specs:* Asus P5K Intel P35 LGA775, Intel Core2Duo E6850 3.0GHz, Geil Ultra 4x1gb DDR2 800MHz, OCZ Geforce 8800GTX 768mb, Maxtor MaxLine III 300gb+250gb SATA2-300, Hiper HPU-4K580 PSU

01-17-2006, 07:23 PM	#4 (permalink)
XerXes09 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 22 OS: XP	Oops 300watt PSU ooooooooops I Forgot to add I have a 288watt power supply man http://support.gateway.com/s/POWER/1...00929sp2.shtml Can I use any of thoose cards with this powersupply I am Told that I cannot upgrade the powersupply? If I cant get thoose cards which 1's will work with this powersupply? can u link me to newegg only links. Thanks You Guys So Much !

01-17-2006, 08:19 PM	#6 (permalink)
XerXes09 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 22 OS: XP	specs http://support.gateway.com/s/PC/R/5876/5876nv.shtml Last edited by XerXes09; 01-17-2006 at 08:21 PM. Reason: mistake

01-17-2006, 08:20 PM	#7 (permalink)
XerXes09 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 22 OS: XP	Specs Specs: http://support.gateway.com/s/PC/R/5876/5876nv.shtml Can you post any videocards that will work with a 288watt powersupply ? plz thnx last post today gw c u 2 morrow gw

01-17-2006, 06:45 PM	#3 (permalink)
UncleMacro TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,133 OS: Vista SP1 My System	The 6800GS is worth the extra $20. It usually beats an X1600XT as seen here and here. The X1600XT has a weird design which includes only four ROPs which could be an achilles heel in some circumstances and also is a bit limited in memory bandwidth due to its 128 bit RAM. The 6800GS, on the other hand, is a very well balanced card with no weak spots.

01-17-2006, 07:58 PM	#5 (permalink)
UncleMacro TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,133 OS: Vista SP1 My System	That power supply is unlikely to work with either of those video cards. On paper, 15 amps at 12 volts isn't enough for those kinds of video cards. Sometimes, the power supplies included with machines like Gateways, HPs, and Dells are conservatively rated and can actually deliver more current than the specs would lead you to believe. So people can occasionally get away with adding a mid-range video card like a 6800GS. But I wouldn't count on it. You'll probably have problems as soon as the video card kicks into 3D mode and it starts sucking up lots of power. As far as which video cards will work with that supply, you could run into trouble even with a 6600GT. If you add just about any kind of decent current video card, you could have serious trouble with a 288 watt supply. Are you sure you can't replace the power supply? The size given at Gateway's page is a standard ATX size. By the way, do you have a link to the whole computer so folks can see what you're upgrading?

01-18-2006, 05:56 AM	#8 (permalink)
UncleMacro TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,133 OS: Vista SP1 My System	I've looked at your computer's motherboard pictures and that looks like a standard ATX power supply to me. The rest of your machine is fairly quick so I'd personally get at least a 6800GS and then add a new power supply if necessary rather than compromise on a slower video card. This 4 pin connector and this 24 pin connector just look like the current version of ATX. I'm not sure why they would tell you that you can't replace it. You might call them again and make sure but that sure looks like a standard power supply. You can get a rough estimate of your power consumption using a power calculator. This is another one.

01-18-2006, 12:25 PM	#9 (permalink)
XerXes09 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 22 OS: XP	IDK how to install PSU The Turth is I dont noe how to install a powersupply, ive found wires leading to the USB and audio ports and they r un accesible but they come directly from the powersupply into a case inside where the usb, audio jacks are in the front (this is serperated from the rest of the comp by a whole which the wires go through, its a whole in a wall kinda. like this... (See Atachment) other than that I dont want to buy a new powersupply can't You please find me a card that will work with my existing powersupply? lol thanks

01-18-2006, 06:19 PM	#10 (permalink)
UncleMacro TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,133 OS: Vista SP1 My System	Well, with a 300 watt power supply you really can't guarantee that a 6600GT (a very popular card) will work. They will usually work fine but sometimes they won't. 6600GTs are reasonably quick in their price range but they usually suggest at least 350 watts. So, if you want to play it safe you could get a GeForce 6600 DDR2. It's not the world's fastest video card but it's a huge step up from your onboard video and this particular video card is a relatively low power card for its speed. There are faster cards which sell for less but they will put more of a strain on your power supply. You could try a faster card and then underclock it to reduce power consumption if you have problems but there is some risk in taking that approach. The 6600 DDR2 is a reasonably safe choice.

02-12-2006, 11:11 AM	#11 (permalink)
XerXes09 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 22 OS: XP	:) I installd the power supply and got the 6800GS only 1 problem its not a 7800GT other that than that, plays bf2 on ultra high setts with 70fps . Gr8 ! Last edited by XerXes09; 02-12-2006 at 11:12 AM. Reason: Typo: