there's like a billion different x800's... help choose

reidypea · 11-28-2005, 07:30 PM

for christmas i'd like to get a new video card because mine right now is a piece of crap (nvidia fx 5700 le)... and i've choosen to one of the x800 series video cards. but there's like several different kinds (gt, gto, xl. ect ect).. and i'd like to know which would be the best, i'm willing to spend whatever

i need it for gaming, i play cs:source, hl2, doom 3, farcry, fear, halo..etc.

i have an agp slot.. these are all the possibilities, i think that the standard x800 is the best, but i dont really know

x800gt
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102619

x800gto
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102608

x800 pro
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121519

standard x800 (the most expensive)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102532

i have a p4 3ghz 800fsb 1mb l2 cache, 512 ram (getting more soon)

your help would really be appreciated, thanks.

tikibangout · 11-28-2005, 07:48 PM

I was looking at the GTO and it seems to have better specs and its cheaper, but I could be wrong. I think the first three will be better than the standard though, I have no clue why its the most expensive.

**please** · 11-28-2005, 10:27 PM

@ tikibangout
The GT only has 8 pipelines, the other three have 12. The GTO is $50 cheaper than the other two and with similar specs so it may be the bargain. The other two seem to be able to be modded to enable 4 more pipelines for 16 total, but it is not guaranteed I think.

MalachiConstant · 11-29-2005, 05:20 PM

The GTO is a really good option, especially if you're on PCI-E (the Connect3D GTO can easily be flashed to 16 pipelines).

AGP is a little bit trickier. Some x800 Pros can be flashed to 16 pipelines, but some newer ones can't. A GTO gets you more or less the same power as a Pro (the GPU speed is a little slower, the memory a tad faster), but you're generally not going to flash a GTO to unlock pipelines.

Ideally, you would get an XT or an XL, which already has the extra 4 pipelines, but those get expensive and you might as well get a different card altogether.

Someone on this site (jflan) suggested these tables when I was trying to build a new computer:

ATI Chips Comparison Table
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/131

nVidia Chips Comparison Table
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/132

Hope this helps!

jadkovach · 11-29-2005, 08:30 PM

Remember how many watts your computer is giving out first! You may need more power supply if needed as if you up grade!

jadkovach · 11-29-2005, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jadkovach

Remember how many watts your computer is giving out first! You may need more power supply if needed as if you up grade!

I like the ATI Radeon series also and I don`t what to pay to much because in the next 6 months there will be something better ,you know!

**Fr4665** · 11-29-2005, 10:13 PM

hello there,

im running the x800XL which is very nice :) i got it for 250$ the extra 4 pipelines make a big difference from 12 to 16 you will notice. Also you might want to take into considaration a 6800 which you could try to mod to a 6800gt. those are very competative to a x800XL if not sometimes better.

time flies but with the new cards like the geforce 7 and the new x1xxx series you would need to upgrade to a whole new system cause you need pci-express

good luck on your choice

i recommend the x800XL got it beginning of summer 2005 and its very sweet. but i also recommend flashing the GTO cause you can flash those very easy or go with an nvidia option like a 6800 and flash it to a 6800gt

ebackhus · 11-30-2005, 08:40 AM

I managed to softmod my 6800 to have 16 pipes. I liked it because I got the boost but didn't do something that could be hard to undo if I wanted to sell the card later. Now I'm running a 6800GT with bad fans, whee!

11-28-2005, 07:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
reidypea Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 3 OS: XP	there's like a billion different x800's... help choose for christmas i'd like to get a new video card because mine right now is a piece of crap (nvidia fx 5700 le)... and i've choosen to one of the x800 series video cards. but there's like several different kinds (gt, gto, xl. ect ect).. and i'd like to know which would be the best, i'm willing to spend whatever i need it for gaming, i play cs:source, hl2, doom 3, farcry, fear, halo..etc. i have an agp slot.. these are all the possibilities, i think that the standard x800 is the best, but i dont really know x800gt http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102619 x800gto http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102608 x800 pro http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121519 standard x800 (the most expensive) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102532 i have a p4 3ghz 800fsb 1mb l2 cache, 512 ram (getting more soon) your help would really be appreciated, thanks.

11-28-2005, 10:27 PM	#3 (permalink)
please TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,186 OS: WinXP SP2	@ tikibangout The GT only has 8 pipelines, the other three have 12. The GTO is $50 cheaper than the other two and with similar specs so it may be the bargain. The other two seem to be able to be modded to enable 4 more pipelines for 16 total, but it is not guaranteed I think. __________________ P4P800E-D:~:P4 3.0C@3.75GHz:~:Zal7000AlCu:~:OCZ4001024ELDCPER2-K@250MHz 2.5-3-3-7 WinXP SP2>2X160GB Samsung SATA ICH5R RAID1:~:2x80GB Samsung SATA Promise RAID0 ATI A-I-W X800XT~SB Audigy2 ZS~2X BenQ1620~Antec SLK3700AMB~Antec SmartPower2.0 500W

11-29-2005, 10:13 PM	#7 (permalink)
Fr4665 aka mr.fraggs Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA or Germany Posts: 2,965 OS: Win XP,Vista,Android My System	hello there, im running the x800XL which is very nice :) i got it for 250$ the extra 4 pipelines make a big difference from 12 to 16 you will notice. Also you might want to take into considaration a 6800 which you could try to mod to a 6800gt. those are very competative to a x800XL if not sometimes better. time flies but with the new cards like the geforce 7 and the new x1xxx series you would need to upgrade to a whole new system cause you need pci-express good luck on your choice i recommend the x800XL got it beginning of summer 2005 and its very sweet. but i also recommend flashing the GTO cause you can flash those very easy or go with an nvidia option like a 6800 and flash it to a 6800gt __________________ I don't subscribe to threads please PM me if i miss a reply. ------- Everest SensorView Pro DriverCleaner how to fix your game

11-30-2005, 08:40 AM	#8 (permalink)
ebackhus Manager, Design Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: SATX Posts: 14,335 OS: WinXP Pro SP3/Windows 7 RTM My System Blog Entries: 28	I managed to softmod my 6800 to have 16 pipes. I liked it because I got the boost but didn't do something that could be hard to undo if I wanted to sell the card later. Now I'm running a 6800GT with bad fans, whee! __________________ ----------------------------- There are no dumb questions, unless a customer is asking them. Help in the fight against cancer and other serious illnesses.

11-28-2005, 07:48 PM	#2 (permalink)
tikibangout Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 18 OS: Windows XP Home	I was looking at the GTO and it seems to have better specs and its cheaper, but I could be wrong. I think the first three will be better than the standard though, I have no clue why its the most expensive.

11-29-2005, 05:20 PM	#4 (permalink)
MalachiConstant Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 115 OS: Win XP Pro SP2 My System	The GTO is a really good option, especially if you're on PCI-E (the Connect3D GTO can easily be flashed to 16 pipelines). AGP is a little bit trickier. Some x800 Pros can be flashed to 16 pipelines, but some newer ones can't. A GTO gets you more or less the same power as a Pro (the GPU speed is a little slower, the memory a tad faster), but you're generally not going to flash a GTO to unlock pipelines. Ideally, you would get an XT or an XL, which already has the extra 4 pipelines, but those get expensive and you might as well get a different card altogether. Someone on this site (jflan) suggested these tables when I was trying to build a new computer: ATI Chips Comparison Table http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/131 nVidia Chips Comparison Table http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/132 Hope this helps!

11-29-2005, 08:30 PM	#5 (permalink)
jadkovach Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cleveland Posts: 11 OS: XP	Remember how many watts your computer is giving out first! You may need more power supply if needed as if you up grade!