fx 5500 black screen

v-sniper · 11-24-2005, 04:17 PM

hi
i recently bought a gforce fx 5500 256 mb but when i triend to install it, the pc practically doesnt work, only a black screen, no beeps , nothing. the card works fine (recieves electrecity) in the motherboars and I noticed it. my pc is a P4 1,7 GHZ 512 mb ram with a 4x agp slot 1.5 only.

ps:* the problem cant concern the onboard graphics because i already got an older gforce 2 ti which works fine in the agp slot

*i have no damn idea about what power supply is and how to change it, so if it is the last problem please help me as a beginner in this point

thanks already for your help

dai · 11-24-2005, 05:03 PM

look on the side of power supply and post brand and wattage and how many amps on the 12v line
if you need to change it,then it is quite easy and straightforward
disconnect it from the power
disconnect all of the plugs inside of the computer
remove the 4 screws holding it in place at the back of the computer,and slide it out
on some of the smaller cases you have to remove the support rail that runs from front to back of the case before you can slide it out

v-sniper · 11-25-2005, 09:25 AM

ok, my power supply is old with only 250 w ,i think that's why the card did not work, so i bought a new one with 450w but i dont trust the one who sold me this thing so here's a picture of the supply called rexpower pl-450 but i did not read any 450 w in the indications in the box so please tell me if it's 450 w.
another question, my agp slot is 4x 1.5v only, is it ok with the gforce fx 5500.

thanks dudes

dai · 11-25-2005, 11:35 AM

look in the box next to your tick pl 450

v-sniper · 11-25-2005, 11:41 AM

yes i saw max = 250 w, shall i add the other numbers or is it an 250w only power supply?

**oldmn** · 11-25-2005, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v-sniper

yes i saw max = 250 w, shall i add the other numbers or is it an 250w only power supply?

It is a 250 watt. Some resellers will buy a boat load of cheap PSU remark them with numbers like this for the unsuspecting.
Here is a list of the manufactures with a quality rating.

ATX Power Supplies - Brands from A to Z

*** RATED BY QUALITY ***

Key
H = High Quality (Good Solid Reliable Brand)
L = Low Quality (Cheap Generic)
M = Medium Quality (In-between)
U = Unknown

A-Power................L
A-Top..................L
A+GPB..................L
AcBel..................L
AC Ryan (Ryanpower)....L
Aerocool...............U
AG.....................L
Ahanix.................L
Akasa..................L
Allied.................L
Antec..................M/H
AOpen..................L
APC....................L
Apex Allied............L
Aspire.................L/M
Astec..................L
Athena.................L
BFG....................L
Broadway Gaming........U
Channel Well...........L
CHAS...................L
Chenbro................U
Chieftec...............L
Coba...................L
Codegen................L
Conrad.................M
CoolerMaster...........H
CoolMax................M
Crystal................L
Dell...................L
Delta..................L
Diablo.................L
Eagle..................L
Echo Star..............L
Enermax................H
Engleking..............M
Enlight................M
Epson..................L
FDK....................L
Fortron (FSP)..........H
Gateway................L
Gazelle Multimedia.....L
Global Marketing.......L
GPower.................L
Guardian...............L
Herolchi...............M
Hipro..................L
HP/Compaq..............L
HPC International......L
Huntkey................L
I-Star.................L
IBM Redundant..........U (expensive)
Intel Redundant........U (expensive)
In Win.................L
Jaguar.................U
Kensington.............L
Kingwin................L
L&C....................L
Leadman................L
Levicom................L
LiteOn.................U
Logisys................U
Mad Dog................L/M
Maxtron................L
MGE....................L
MGE Vortec.............M
MorningStar............L
NEC....................L
Newton.................L
Nexus..................L
Noise Magic............L
NorthQ.................M
Nspire.................L
OCZ....................H
Omega..................L
Packard Bell...........L
PC Power & Cooling.....H
PC-World (PCW).........L
PCMCIS.................U
Power..................L
PowerStream............L
PowerTek...............L
PowerUp................L
PowMax.................L
PowMax XPower..........L
Premium................L
Pyramid................L
Q-Tec..................L
Q-Technology...........L
RaidMax................U
Real Power.............L
Rosewill...............L
SCS....................L
SeaSonic...............H
Shuttle................L
Silent Purepower.......U
SilenX.................L
Silverstone............H
Sky Hawk (Eagle Tech)..L
Sparkle................H
Star Micronics.........L
StarTech...............L
Sun....................L
SuperFlower............L
Supermicro.............L
Tagan..................H
Task...................L
ThermalTake............M
Topower................L
Tri-Mag................L
TSP....................L
Tyan Tiger.............L
TTGI...................L
Ultra-Power Computer...L
Ultra..................M
Ultra X-Connect........L
Vantec.................H
Verax..................H
Vigor..................U
Xion...................L
xPCgear................L
Zalman.................H
Zippy..................L

Thanks Whodat / for the link !!

v-sniper · 11-25-2005, 11:56 AM

I think i got scammed because even in the power supply box it's written 450 w, if the dude oldman is right, i'll try to take my money back.
so anyone to confirm?
thx all

dai · 11-25-2005, 12:11 PM

i read it as
3.3 and 5v lines=250max
you can tell the quality by the price you paid for it

v-sniper · 11-25-2005, 12:22 PM

so no hope it's a 450w? i thought u should add all the output numbers to get 450w.
i paid 20 $ for it, but i was assured that it's a 450 watt. apparently it's a 250 only.
i'll change it tomorrow, because even the seller doesnt now a damn thing a bout the power supplies.
i hope they change it.

dai · 11-25-2005, 12:42 PM

a quality supply will cost a min $75+
if you are not prepared to pay this,then try the one you have bought as the amps are ok on it

v-sniper · 11-25-2005, 12:50 PM

really?!! u think that will make a my gforce work? oh thanks man that's the first time i hear/read something cheerfull today! i'll try it tomorrow with a profissional before i get it changed and i'll tell you if it works. thx dude

v-sniper · 11-26-2005, 12:46 PM

i'm too damn confused right now! i upgraded the spu to a 350w, i tried the fx 5500, the fx 5200 and the ati 9250 and no of these cards work, but the my old GeForce 2 TI never got me in trouble. *ps: all the cards work fine in other PCs.
i'll post u all the information needed for my P4 vmm2, and please try to find what's wrong.

thx, and happy thanksgiving to all

dai · 11-26-2005, 01:00 PM

how did the 450w turn into a 350w,you are right down on the minimum with a 450,todays comps usually require around the 550w mark if you read the posts,you will see people using the lastest and greatest are fitting 650-850+
at the rate they are going up in 10yrs you will need a generator.
the amps the supply puts out is more important than the wattage,you need to see a min of 20a on the 12v line or if dual 12v line supply add the two lots of amps from each line together

v-sniper · 11-26-2005, 01:06 PM

I'll explain, i changed the 250w spu into a 350w spu, this spu was in the pc where the fx 5500 worked very well ! that's why i think the problem is totally elswhere, sorry for making u confused dude

*ps: the best spu where i live are 350w, i have to live with it

soplease check my bios options and my motherboard details

peterdiva · 11-26-2005, 02:24 PM

On page 25,there's a setting called AGP Comp Driving,set this to manual,then set it as high as you can,I think it's FF.

v-sniper · 11-26-2005, 03:34 PM

ok, tried it... no result.

peterdiva · 11-26-2005, 04:18 PM

Do you know what revision the board is,there's been a few.Have you updated the board's drivers,and/or the BIOS.

v-sniper · 11-27-2005, 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peterdiva

Do you know what revision the board is,there's been a few.Have you updated the board's drivers,and/or the BIOS.

no, I never update the BIOS for sure, would I ?
please do me a favour and explain me how shall i update it.

peterdiva · 11-27-2005, 06:05 AM

Have you ever updated your motherboard drivers,the BIOS is a last resort.Here's the link to the mobo drivers.http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/Product...ailName=Driver.It's the first one VIA Service Pack (4 in 1).For the BIOS I'm going to need the PCB number,because there's a different BIOS for each one.It should be written on the board next to the model number.

v-sniper · 11-27-2005, 09:56 AM

that's what i found : VT8751 (pm266) northbridge and VT8233 southbridge

11-24-2005, 04:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
v-sniper Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 26 OS: xp (damit)	fx 5500 black screen hi i recently bought a gforce fx 5500 256 mb but when i triend to install it, the pc practically doesnt work, only a black screen, no beeps , nothing. the card works fine (recieves electrecity) in the motherboars and I noticed it. my pc is a P4 1,7 GHZ 512 mb ram with a 4x agp slot 1.5 only. ps:* the problem cant concern the onboard graphics because i already got an older gforce 2 ti which works fine in the agp slot *i have no damn idea about what power supply is and how to change it, so if it is the last problem please help me as a beginner in this point thanks already for your help

11-24-2005, 05:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,797 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	look on the side of power supply and post brand and wattage and how many amps on the 12v line if you need to change it,then it is quite easy and straightforward disconnect it from the power disconnect all of the plugs inside of the computer remove the 4 screws holding it in place at the back of the computer,and slide it out on some of the smaller cases you have to remove the support rail that runs from front to back of the case before you can slide it out __________________

11-25-2005, 09:25 AM	#3 (permalink)
v-sniper Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 26 OS: xp (damit)	ok, my power supply is old with only 250 w ,i think that's why the card did not work, so i bought a new one with 450w but i dont trust the one who sold me this thing so here's a picture of the supply called rexpower pl-450 but i did not read any 450 w in the indications in the box so please tell me if it's 450 w. another question, my agp slot is 4x 1.5v only, is it ok with the gforce fx 5500. thanks dudes Last edited by v-sniper; 11-25-2005 at 09:27 AM.

11-25-2005, 11:35 AM	#4 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,797 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	look in the box next to your tick pl 450 __________________

11-25-2005, 12:11 PM	#8 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,797 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	i read it as 3.3 and 5v lines=250max you can tell the quality by the price you paid for it __________________

11-25-2005, 11:41 AM	#5 (permalink)
v-sniper Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 26 OS: xp (damit)	yes i saw max = 250 w, shall i add the other numbers or is it an 250w only power supply?

11-25-2005, 11:56 AM	#7 (permalink)
v-sniper Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 26 OS: xp (damit)	I think i got scammed because even in the power supply box it's written 450 w, if the dude oldman is right, i'll try to take my money back. so anyone to confirm? thx all

11-25-2005, 12:22 PM	#9 (permalink)
v-sniper Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 26 OS: xp (damit)	so no hope it's a 450w? i thought u should add all the output numbers to get 450w. i paid 20 $ for it, but i was assured that it's a 450 watt. apparently it's a 250 only. i'll change it tomorrow, because even the seller doesnt now a damn thing a bout the power supplies. i hope they change it. Last edited by v-sniper; 11-25-2005 at 12:26 PM.

11-25-2005, 12:42 PM	#10 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,797 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	a quality supply will cost a min $75+ if you are not prepared to pay this,then try the one you have bought as the amps are ok on it __________________

11-25-2005, 12:50 PM	#11 (permalink)
v-sniper Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 26 OS: xp (damit)	really?!! u think that will make a my gforce work? oh thanks man that's the first time i hear/read something cheerfull today! i'll try it tomorrow with a profissional before i get it changed and i'll tell you if it works. thx dude

11-26-2005, 12:46 PM	#12 (permalink)
v-sniper Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 26 OS: xp (damit)	i'm too damn confused right now! i upgraded the spu to a 350w, i tried the fx 5500, the fx 5200 and the ati 9250 and no of these cards work, but the my old GeForce 2 TI never got me in trouble. *ps: all the cards work fine in other PCs. i'll post u all the information needed for my P4 vmm2, and please try to find what's wrong. thx, and happy thanksgiving to all

11-26-2005, 01:00 PM	#13 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,797 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	how did the 450w turn into a 350w,you are right down on the minimum with a 450,todays comps usually require around the 550w mark if you read the posts,you will see people using the lastest and greatest are fitting 650-850+ at the rate they are going up in 10yrs you will need a generator. the amps the supply puts out is more important than the wattage,you need to see a min of 20a on the 12v line or if dual 12v line supply add the two lots of amps from each line together __________________

11-26-2005, 01:06 PM	#14 (permalink)
v-sniper Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 26 OS: xp (damit)	I'll explain, i changed the 250w spu into a 350w spu, this spu was in the pc where the fx 5500 worked very well ! that's why i think the problem is totally elswhere, sorry for making u confused dude ps: the best spu where i live are 350w, i have to live with it soplease check my bios options and my motherboard details Last edited by v-sniper; 11-26-2005 at 01:08 PM.*

11-26-2005, 02:24 PM	#15 (permalink)
peterdiva Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Western Australia Posts: 455 OS: WinXP	On page 25,there's a setting called AGP Comp Driving,set this to manual,then set it as high as you can,I think it's FF.

11-26-2005, 03:34 PM	#16 (permalink)
v-sniper Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 26 OS: xp (damit)	ok, tried it... no result.

11-26-2005, 04:18 PM	#17 (permalink)
peterdiva Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Western Australia Posts: 455 OS: WinXP	Do you know what revision the board is,there's been a few.Have you updated the board's drivers,and/or the BIOS.

11-27-2005, 06:05 AM	#19 (permalink)
peterdiva Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Western Australia Posts: 455 OS: WinXP	Have you ever updated your motherboard drivers,the BIOS is a last resort.Here's the link to the mobo drivers.http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/Product...ailName=Driver.It's the first one VIA Service Pack (4 in 1).For the BIOS I'm going to need the PCB number,because there's a different BIOS for each one.It should be written on the board next to the model number.

11-27-2005, 09:56 AM	#20 (permalink)
v-sniper Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 26 OS: xp (damit)	that's what i found : VT8751 (pm266) northbridge and VT8233 southbridge Last edited by v-sniper; 11-27-2005 at 09:58 AM.