General Upgrade Discussion

Luk07 · 08-23-2005, 12:47 PM

I made this thread so I could see what sort of upgrade to get soon also to let other people ask someone what they should upgrade on their PC.

Firstly my pc,

3000+ Athlon 64
1024mb RAM~400Mhz
128mb PNY Tech Geforce 6 6600GT
120Gb Hard Drive

Ok i built this pc about a year ago, the upgrades i have made so far is to go from Radeon 9600 to 6600GT and to upgrade from 512RAM to 1024 and im wondering, what's next?

I am thinking of going for something SLI based (no point in PCI-E as it doesnt make an enourmous difference YET). But if i go for SLI that will mean a new motherboard but if i do get a new motherboard then i will go for a S939 (i have 754 at the moment, bad choice maybe?) which obviously means a new processor, i really want to know if using two 6600GT's is a good idea for an SLI or whether i should go for a more advanced GPU e.g. Geforce 7 series. Basically i want some tips on what to do next.

Anyone who wants similar help please post in this thread, i would like to hear about other people's successful/unsuccessful upgrades also.

Luk07 · 08-23-2005, 12:56 PM

Moving it up, i thought all posts start at the top, this one started half way down the page so i moved it up lol

Luk07 · 08-23-2005, 04:14 PM

Someone post something in here please

elf · 08-23-2005, 06:16 PM

The reason you're not getting any responses is because this is the offline section...people here aren't looking to answer questions, they are more looking for fun stuff (see other threads in the section for an idea of what I'm talking about).

As for SLI, I've heard it's still pretty buggy. I'd hold off on it if I were you unless you really know what you're doing.

Luk07 · 08-24-2005, 11:32 AM

cheers for the response, so which board do you think i shud post it in?

**Grove** · 08-25-2005, 02:04 AM

A moderator will put this in the appropriate forum. No Need to Post another Thread.

Compumaniac12 · 08-25-2005, 08:41 AM

for that computer ide recommend... either saving your money, or getting a board with pcie support and a 7800. as for sli, its hard to get the same video card unless u buy them at the exact same time, so unless u still have the newegg page or something, you probly dont wanna go with sli.

you can test your games to see if u ever overload the 1gb of memory, and to get improoved performance youll want to make sure its in dual channel mode.

another option would be an sata raid settup, if u dont have raid plugs on your board you can buy a pci card, raid 0/1 with 2 sata 150s will give a boost from the ata 100 drives...

your at a point where you wont see a Huge difference, yet you will spend a forture for it, so ide reommend just sitting on the money, your system is good enough.

i myself am not wealthy, i got 500$ waiting for somethin like direct x 9.1 so i can get parts that will last.

**myquitehead** · 08-25-2005, 12:53 PM

Yea I won't be upgrading until the crazy 64 bit systems come.

ebackhus · 08-25-2005, 02:22 PM

64-bit is here, though.

**myquitehead** · 08-25-2005, 03:19 PM

Not that kind, the amazing kind, lol.

ebackhus · 08-25-2005, 04:47 PM

How is it not amazing? More and more 64-bit programs are coming out and the performance gains are incredible!

elf · 08-25-2005, 08:37 PM

There still aren't 64 bit games though...are there? And maybe he's waiting for the new X2 processors (dual core). Just an idea, I'm sort of falling behind in the hardware area...I guess I need to bone up some.

R3zagron · 08-25-2005, 09:42 PM

i think saving up ur money is a good idea..save so u can buy a decent, mid-high end rig...
prolly go with an AMD x2 with a 7800 or so...
also, SLI with 2 6600Gts is a bad idea...cause 1 6800Gt or ultra can perform better than the 2 6600gts in SLI
but when u decide to buy..get a decent PCI-e motherboard (not sure which is good) and get a 6800GT at least, nothing lower...but dont get the 6800Ultra cause its only a few dolllars less than a 7800GT which performs a lot better

ebackhus · 08-26-2005, 08:28 AM

As of this writing there are no 64-bit games available as 64-bit OS's aren't major players yet. Most 64-bit programs are desktop applications and revamped versions of what's already available.

elf · 08-26-2005, 08:47 AM

but they can't run on a 32-Bit OS can they?

ebackhus · 08-26-2005, 09:04 AM

Nope. A 64-bit can run 32-bit but not vice versa unless it's designed for that.

**myquitehead** · 08-26-2005, 11:02 AM

The hardware we have now is crap compared to what is coming within the next 3-5 years.

ebackhus · 08-26-2005, 01:58 PM

Maybe in speed comparison, but feature-wise things haven't changed much over the past few decades.

08-23-2005, 12:47 PM	#1 (permalink)
Luk07 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Kettering, Northamptonshire, UK Posts: 447 OS: Windows XP Pro SP2 My System	General Upgrade Discussion I made this thread so I could see what sort of upgrade to get soon also to let other people ask someone what they should upgrade on their PC. Firstly my pc, 3000+ Athlon 64 1024mb RAM~400Mhz 128mb PNY Tech Geforce 6 6600GT 120Gb Hard Drive Ok i built this pc about a year ago, the upgrades i have made so far is to go from Radeon 9600 to 6600GT and to upgrade from 512RAM to 1024 and im wondering, what's next? I am thinking of going for something SLI based (no point in PCI-E as it doesnt make an enourmous difference YET). But if i go for SLI that will mean a new motherboard but if i do get a new motherboard then i will go for a S939 (i have 754 at the moment, bad choice maybe?) which obviously means a new processor, i really want to know if using two 6600GT's is a good idea for an SLI or whether i should go for a more advanced GPU e.g. Geforce 7 series. Basically i want some tips on what to do next. Anyone who wants similar help please post in this thread, i would like to hear about other people's successful/unsuccessful upgrades also. __________________ It's all fun and games until the monkey craps on the carpet! I've got your nose Mr. Anderson and i intend to keep it!

08-23-2005, 12:56 PM	#2 (permalink)
Luk07 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Kettering, Northamptonshire, UK Posts: 447 OS: Windows XP Pro SP2 My System	Moving it up, i thought all posts start at the top, this one started half way down the page so i moved it up lol __________________ It's all fun and games until the monkey craps on the carpet! I've got your nose Mr. Anderson and i intend to keep it!

08-23-2005, 04:14 PM	#3 (permalink)
Luk07 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Kettering, Northamptonshire, UK Posts: 447 OS: Windows XP Pro SP2 My System	Someone post something in here please __________________ It's all fun and games until the monkey craps on the carpet! I've got your nose Mr. Anderson and i intend to keep it!

08-23-2005, 06:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
elf Manager, Microsoft Support Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Knoxville, TN or Austin, TX depending Posts: 7,050 OS: WinXP Pro SP3 and Windows 7 My System	The reason you're not getting any responses is because this is the offline section...people here aren't looking to answer questions, they are more looking for fun stuff (see other threads in the section for an idea of what I'm talking about). As for SLI, I've heard it's still pretty buggy. I'd hold off on it if I were you unless you really know what you're doing. __________________ If TSF has helped you, Tell us about it! or Donate to help keep the site up! I do not subscribe to threads, so if I stop replying, PM me with a link to your thread so I can find it again.

08-24-2005, 11:32 AM	#5 (permalink)
Luk07 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Kettering, Northamptonshire, UK Posts: 447 OS: Windows XP Pro SP2 My System	cheers for the response, so which board do you think i shud post it in? __________________ It's all fun and games until the monkey craps on the carpet! I've got your nose Mr. Anderson and i intend to keep it!

08-25-2005, 02:04 AM	#6 (permalink)
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08-25-2005, 08:41 AM	#7 (permalink)
Compumaniac12 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 209 OS: XP home sp1	for that computer ide recommend... either saving your money, or getting a board with pcie support and a 7800. as for sli, its hard to get the same video card unless u buy them at the exact same time, so unless u still have the newegg page or something, you probly dont wanna go with sli. you can test your games to see if u ever overload the 1gb of memory, and to get improoved performance youll want to make sure its in dual channel mode. another option would be an sata raid settup, if u dont have raid plugs on your board you can buy a pci card, raid 0/1 with 2 sata 150s will give a boost from the ata 100 drives... your at a point where you wont see a Huge difference, yet you will spend a forture for it, so ide reommend just sitting on the money, your system is good enough. i myself am not wealthy, i got 500$ waiting for somethin like direct x 9.1 so i can get parts that will last. Last edited by Compumaniac12; 08-25-2005 at 08:43 AM.

08-25-2005, 12:53 PM	#8 (permalink)
myquitehead TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 572 OS: XP Pro Sp1	Yea I won't be upgrading until the crazy 64 bit systems come.

08-25-2005, 02:22 PM	#9 (permalink)
ebackhus Manager, Design Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: SATX Posts: 14,352 OS: WinXP Pro SP3/Windows 7 RTM My System Blog Entries: 28	64-bit is here, though. __________________ ----------------------------- There are no dumb questions, unless a customer is asking them. Help in the fight against cancer and other serious illnesses.

08-25-2005, 03:19 PM	#10 (permalink)
myquitehead TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 572 OS: XP Pro Sp1	Not that kind, the amazing kind, lol.

08-25-2005, 04:47 PM	#11 (permalink)
ebackhus Manager, Design Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: SATX Posts: 14,352 OS: WinXP Pro SP3/Windows 7 RTM My System Blog Entries: 28	How is it not amazing? More and more 64-bit programs are coming out and the performance gains are incredible! __________________ ----------------------------- There are no dumb questions, unless a customer is asking them. Help in the fight against cancer and other serious illnesses.

08-25-2005, 08:37 PM	#12 (permalink)
elf Manager, Microsoft Support Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Knoxville, TN or Austin, TX depending Posts: 7,050 OS: WinXP Pro SP3 and Windows 7 My System	There still aren't 64 bit games though...are there? And maybe he's waiting for the new X2 processors (dual core). Just an idea, I'm sort of falling behind in the hardware area...I guess I need to bone up some. __________________ If TSF has helped you, Tell us about it! or Donate to help keep the site up! I do not subscribe to threads, so if I stop replying, PM me with a link to your thread so I can find it again.

08-25-2005, 09:42 PM	#13 (permalink)
R3zagron Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 74 OS: XP	i think saving up ur money is a good idea..save so u can buy a decent, mid-high end rig... prolly go with an AMD x2 with a 7800 or so... also, SLI with 2 6600Gts is a bad idea...cause 1 6800Gt or ultra can perform better than the 2 6600gts in SLI but when u decide to buy..get a decent PCI-e motherboard (not sure which is good) and get a 6800GT at least, nothing lower...but dont get the 6800Ultra cause its only a few dolllars less than a 7800GT which performs a lot better

08-26-2005, 08:28 AM	#14 (permalink)
ebackhus Manager, Design Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: SATX Posts: 14,352 OS: WinXP Pro SP3/Windows 7 RTM My System Blog Entries: 28	As of this writing there are no 64-bit games available as 64-bit OS's aren't major players yet. Most 64-bit programs are desktop applications and revamped versions of what's already available. __________________ ----------------------------- There are no dumb questions, unless a customer is asking them. Help in the fight against cancer and other serious illnesses.

08-26-2005, 08:47 AM	#15 (permalink)
elf Manager, Microsoft Support Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Knoxville, TN or Austin, TX depending Posts: 7,050 OS: WinXP Pro SP3 and Windows 7 My System	but they can't run on a 32-Bit OS can they? __________________ If TSF has helped you, Tell us about it! or Donate to help keep the site up! I do not subscribe to threads, so if I stop replying, PM me with a link to your thread so I can find it again.

08-26-2005, 09:04 AM	#16 (permalink)
ebackhus Manager, Design Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: SATX Posts: 14,352 OS: WinXP Pro SP3/Windows 7 RTM My System Blog Entries: 28	Nope. A 64-bit can run 32-bit but not vice versa unless it's designed for that. __________________ ----------------------------- There are no dumb questions, unless a customer is asking them. Help in the fight against cancer and other serious illnesses.

08-26-2005, 11:02 AM	#17 (permalink)
myquitehead TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 572 OS: XP Pro Sp1	The hardware we have now is crap compared to what is coming within the next 3-5 years.

08-26-2005, 01:58 PM	#18 (permalink)
ebackhus Manager, Design Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: SATX Posts: 14,352 OS: WinXP Pro SP3/Windows 7 RTM My System Blog Entries: 28	Maybe in speed comparison, but feature-wise things haven't changed much over the past few decades. __________________ ----------------------------- There are no dumb questions, unless a customer is asking them. Help in the fight against cancer and other serious illnesses.