Problems with ati radeon 9200se on xp system

nick_e_b · 07-06-2005, 12:28 PM

Hi Somebody please help me I can,t get any drivers for the ati radeon 9200se to work on my windows xp pc

Specs (don't laugh)

Athlon 1.3 gig processor
Mach 4 motherboard model no KT33-BV ( via chipset )
512 mb ram running @ 133
40 gig hard drive

the properties in device manager display this error message:

This device cannot find enough free resources that it can use. (Code 12)

If you want to use this device, you will need to disable one of the other devices on this system.

I Dont know what it means or how to fix it please help me

dai · 07-06-2005, 01:16 PM

what were you using before,onboard?

nick_e_b · 07-06-2005, 03:28 PM

Hi,
Thanks for replying, in answer to your question,
No, I have made sure I properly uninstalled the old agp card hercules 3d prophet 2 mx.
In fact Since posting this problem I have formatted my primary hard disk and reinstalled xp with the new card inside only to find I'm still having the same problem.

**godspeeed** · 07-06-2005, 11:41 PM

Hey welcome to the forums.

Ive found this on the microsoft website.

Quote:

Two devices have been assigned the same input/output (I/O) ports, the same interrupt, or the same Direct Memory Access channel (either by the BIOS, the operating system, or a combination of the two). This error message can also appear if the BIOS did not allocate enough resources to the device (for example, if a universal serial bus (USB) controller does not get an interrupt from the BIOS because of a corrupt Multiprocessor System (MPS) table).

You can use Device Manager to determine where the conflict is and disable the conflicting device.

On the General Properties tab of the device, click Troubleshoot to start the troubleshooting wizard.

Microsoft's troubleshooting rarely helps but its worth taking the 2 minutes to try it. And at least it gives a clue on what could be the cause of this problem. With that in mindsomeone else on these board could probably give you further help with this.

Good luck.

nick_e_b · 07-07-2005, 07:24 AM

Thankyou, I beleive you are correct and that this maybe an irq conflict but on the resources tab it doesn't say anything other than the same error message
code 12,
I should be able to rectify any conflicts from there shouldn't I?
Should there be 4 devices using irq11 as in:

(pci) 11 ASUS radeon 9200se
(pci) 11 cmi8738/c3dx pci audion device
(pci) 11 via rev 5 or later USB universal host controller
(pci) 11 via rev 5 or later USB universal host controller

As these show in the device manager under view>resources by type.

P.s Before and after installing the graphics card there appears to be no conflicts between the sound card and the usb host cons.I havn't got a clue about irq's so please help me.

dai · 07-07-2005, 07:39 AM

unlike earlier systems xp usually handles a number of devices on irq with no problems
try moving your s/card to another slot

nick_e_b · 07-07-2005, 09:22 AM

Moving the sound card did change the irq settings but that was not the problem, I uninstalled the agp card and reinstalled it after moving the the sound card and still had the same problems although the sound card and other devices are now on irq 5 leaving the graphics card on its own on 11.

I think we can eliminate irq conflicts now, so thanks.

WHAT IS GOING ON, THE WORLD HAS GONE CRAZY, AND NOW SO HAS MY COMPUTER!!!!!

nick_e_b · 07-07-2005, 09:38 AM

The firstpossible problem on the trouble shooter is saying there maybe two copies of the same card in and there is two copies showing in device manager exactly the same except one says secondary after it.

I've tried installing them over and over again (making sure i uninstall them properly and that they are actually gone before i re install them) but they still both show up. there is no way of installing the driver whith only one copy showing after so i think it might be deliberate.

ebackhus · 07-10-2005, 02:04 AM

Secondary is actually the DVI output on the card. It needs to be there.

nick_e_b · 07-10-2005, 11:32 AM

Thanks, at least that is now known, I'll stop trying to uninstall one now, but is there any idea what the problem is I've tried irq settings there is no conflicts now, my old card and its drivers are definately not still there. HELP ME PLEASE

Tumbleweed36 · 07-10-2005, 11:44 AM

Hello There,

I don't disagree with any of the good advice you have been given. Have you tried to delete all the drivers you are using and then (download them before you delete to a disk) try the Omega drivers. They work well with some of these ATI cards. They have a good deal of excellent drivers that work, but I did not look to see if they had yours. Might want to look:

http://www.omegadrivers.net/

nick_e_b · 07-11-2005, 11:32 AM

Hi tumbleweed

Firstly thanks,

I too do not disagree with any of the advice I have been given I probably should have made it clear that I was extremely grateful for the time taken to try and help me, and I realise only too well that it is something I am doing wrong. I have downloaded the drivers you recommended and will uninstall the previous drivers using the asus remove software and also driver cleaner pro before I install them.

I will let you know how it goes, fingers crossed,

Thanks Nick_e_b

nick_e_b · 07-11-2005, 08:24 PM

Hi,

I tried the omega drivers and had no luck unfortunately, thanks anyway,

PLEASE HELP ME

nick_e_b · 07-11-2005, 08:30 PM

CAN ANYONE HELP ME ANY MORE WITH THIS, I DONT KNOW HOW TO, TRIED FOLLOWING THE INSTRUCTIONS COULDN'T CHANGE ATTRIBUTES THAT WERE CONFLICTING

Quote:

Originally Posted by godspeeed

Hey welcome to the forums.

Ive found this on the microsoft website.

Microsoft's troubleshooting rarely helps but its worth taking the 2 minutes to try it. And at least it gives a clue on what could be the cause of this problem. With that in mindsomeone else on these board could probably give you further help with this.

Good luck.

~~Wozer~~ · 07-11-2005, 09:13 PM

don't know about any problems with this card...I'm using it on a dual boot 2kpro/XPpro with an ASUS P4B533e MoBo..

the exact driver I'm using is wxp-w2k-catalyst-8-082-041130a-019577c.exe which I'm pretty sure I downloaded offa their site...

good luck

dai · 07-12-2005, 02:23 AM

in add and remove uninstall all the ati drivers,and in the device manager right click on the video entries and uninstall them
make sure you get rid of everything
reboot tapping f8 and choose vga mode
when windows finishes reinstalling the card
disable a/virus
install your drivers
reboot the computer

PCPain · 07-23-2005, 09:51 AM

You uninstalled a Hercules AGP card so I must presume the ATI 9200se is also an AGP card. There is a certain file required for all AGP cards to run on Intel boards call a GART. It's not really a driver but more of an .inf file. It should be available at ATI's website as well as more info about it. I fear you may have uninstalled this file when you removed the Hercules driver but it is required. Hope this helps.

http://www2.ati.com/drivers/igp-gart-1009-1.html

Also saw your post on another site. Yes it is normal for 9200se to show as primary and secondary because it supports dual monitors. If you're not using two monitors you can disable the secondary and maybe that will free up an IRQ.

07-06-2005, 12:28 PM	#1 (permalink)
nick_e_b Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 12 OS: win xp	Problems with ati radeon 9200se on xp system Hi Somebody please help me I can,t get any drivers for the ati radeon 9200se to work on my windows xp pc Specs (don't laugh) Athlon 1.3 gig processor Mach 4 motherboard model no KT33-BV ( via chipset ) 512 mb ram running @ 133 40 gig hard drive the properties in device manager display this error message: This device cannot find enough free resources that it can use. (Code 12) If you want to use this device, you will need to disable one of the other devices on this system. I Dont know what it means or how to fix it please help me

07-06-2005, 01:16 PM	#2 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,759 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	what were you using before,onboard? __________________

07-06-2005, 03:28 PM	#3 (permalink)
nick_e_b Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 12 OS: win xp	No old drivers on system (HDD formated) Hi, Thanks for replying, in answer to your question, No, I have made sure I properly uninstalled the old agp card hercules 3d prophet 2 mx. In fact Since posting this problem I have formatted my primary hard disk and reinstalled xp with the new card inside only to find I'm still having the same problem.

07-07-2005, 07:24 AM	#5 (permalink)
nick_e_b Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 12 OS: win xp	Nearly there Thankyou, I beleive you are correct and that this maybe an irq conflict but on the resources tab it doesn't say anything other than the same error message code 12, I should be able to rectify any conflicts from there shouldn't I? Should there be 4 devices using irq11 as in: (pci) 11 ASUS radeon 9200se (pci) 11 cmi8738/c3dx pci audion device (pci) 11 via rev 5 or later USB universal host controller (pci) 11 via rev 5 or later USB universal host controller As these show in the device manager under view>resources by type. P.s Before and after installing the graphics card there appears to be no conflicts between the sound card and the usb host cons.I havn't got a clue about irq's so please help me.

07-07-2005, 07:39 AM	#6 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,759 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	unlike earlier systems xp usually handles a number of devices on irq with no problems try moving your s/card to another slot __________________

07-07-2005, 09:22 AM	#7 (permalink)
nick_e_b Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 12 OS: win xp	no irq conflicts Moving the sound card did change the irq settings but that was not the problem, I uninstalled the agp card and reinstalled it after moving the the sound card and still had the same problems although the sound card and other devices are now on irq 5 leaving the graphics card on its own on 11. I think we can eliminate irq conflicts now, so thanks. WHAT IS GOING ON, THE WORLD HAS GONE CRAZY, AND NOW SO HAS MY COMPUTER!!!!!

07-07-2005, 09:38 AM	#8 (permalink)
nick_e_b Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 12 OS: win xp	The firstpossible problem on the trouble shooter is saying there maybe two copies of the same card in and there is two copies showing in device manager exactly the same except one says secondary after it. I've tried installing them over and over again (making sure i uninstall them properly and that they are actually gone before i re install them) but they still both show up. there is no way of installing the driver whith only one copy showing after so i think it might be deliberate.

07-10-2005, 02:04 AM	#9 (permalink)
ebackhus Manager, Design Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: SATX Posts: 14,335 OS: WinXP Pro SP3/Windows 7 RTM My System Blog Entries: 28	Secondary is actually the DVI output on the card. It needs to be there. __________________ ----------------------------- There are no dumb questions, unless a customer is asking them. Help in the fight against cancer and other serious illnesses. Last edited by ebackhus; 07-10-2005 at 02:05 AM. Reason: Spelling rocks!

07-10-2005, 11:32 AM	#10 (permalink)
nick_e_b Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 12 OS: win xp	Thanks, at least that is now known, I'll stop trying to uninstall one now, but is there any idea what the problem is I've tried irq settings there is no conflicts now, my old card and its drivers are definately not still there. HELP ME PLEASE

07-10-2005, 11:44 AM	#11 (permalink)
Tumbleweed36 Asst Manager Hardware Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 19,707 OS: XP Professional	Hello There, I don't disagree with any of the good advice you have been given. Have you tried to delete all the drivers you are using and then (download them before you delete to a disk) try the Omega drivers. They work well with some of these ATI cards. They have a good deal of excellent drivers that work, but I did not look to see if they had yours. Might want to look: http://www.omegadrivers.net/

07-11-2005, 11:32 AM	#12 (permalink)
nick_e_b Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 12 OS: win xp	Hi tumbleweed Firstly thanks, I too do not disagree with any of the advice I have been given I probably should have made it clear that I was extremely grateful for the time taken to try and help me, and I realise only too well that it is something I am doing wrong. I have downloaded the drivers you recommended and will uninstall the previous drivers using the asus remove software and also driver cleaner pro before I install them. I will let you know how it goes, fingers crossed, Thanks Nick_e_b

07-11-2005, 08:24 PM	#13 (permalink)
nick_e_b Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 12 OS: win xp	Hi, I tried the omega drivers and had no luck unfortunately, thanks anyway, PLEASE HELP ME

07-11-2005, 09:13 PM	#15 (permalink)
~~Wozer~~ Troubled Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,038 OS: 2kpro/XP pro/MCE	don't know about any problems with this card...I'm using it on a dual boot 2kpro/XPpro with an ASUS P4B533e MoBo.. the exact driver I'm using is wxp-w2k-catalyst-8-082-041130a-019577c.exe which I'm pretty sure I downloaded offa their site... good luck

07-12-2005, 02:23 AM	#16 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,759 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	in add and remove uninstall all the ati drivers,and in the device manager right click on the video entries and uninstall them make sure you get rid of everything reboot tapping f8 and choose vga mode when windows finishes reinstalling the card disable a/virus install your drivers reboot the computer __________________

07-23-2005, 09:51 AM	#17 (permalink)
PCPain Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 8 OS: xp	Did you lose the GART file? You uninstalled a Hercules AGP card so I must presume the ATI 9200se is also an AGP card. There is a certain file required for all AGP cards to run on Intel boards call a GART. It's not really a driver but more of an .inf file. It should be available at ATI's website as well as more info about it. I fear you may have uninstalled this file when you removed the Hercules driver but it is required. Hope this helps. http://www2.ati.com/drivers/igp-gart-1009-1.html Also saw your post on another site. Yes it is normal for 9200se to show as primary and secondary because it supports dual monitors. If you're not using two monitors you can disable the secondary and maybe that will free up an IRQ. Last edited by PCPain; 07-23-2005 at 10:09 AM.