Problems with ATI Radeon 9250 - Page 2

bs002 · 07-03-2005, 05:17 AM

DONT REPLACE YOUR RADEONS 9250 ,S I NEARLY DID THIS ALSO JUST CHANGE YOUR AGP SETTING TO 4X DOWN FROM THE DEFAULT 8X ITS UNBELIEVABLE BUT IT WILL WORK AS LONG AS THE OTHER SETTINGS ARE SET AT DEFAULT AND YOUR USING THE CATALYST 5.4 DRIVER TRY IT B4 U WAIST YOUR MONEY REPLACING IT

Armoredfist · 07-05-2005, 12:37 AM

Hey bs002!...That's great news! How do you change AGP settings? In BIOS? The Radeon 9250 is a PCI card.

BTW: The card WILL work....I was playing it today but it took forever to load....there were many blank screens and much waiting...very SLOOOOW.

Once loaded, it played and looked great.

The 9250 ATI PCI card does have come kind of problem, though. It took about 45 minutes of waiting before I got to play.

**mgoldb2** · 07-05-2005, 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackMesa

This is the BEST card you can get for a PCI slot.

Acturally the geforce 5700LE is the best graphic card you can get for a pci slot.

Armoredfist · 07-05-2005, 08:00 AM

How does one change "...AGP SETTINGS FROM 8X TO 4X...". Thair aint nuthin' in my BIOS re: AGP.

Is that a joke on PCI card owners or is there seriously some setting in Windows to tweak?

Armoredfist · 07-05-2005, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel_K

Hi Guys

I have found the answer to why Battlefield 2 wont work on the Radeon 9250. I emailed ATI and got a reply back... Exact message below:

We have responded to your issue.
Solution:
Battlefield 2 will not run on a Radeon 9250. This is as per the system requirements as stated on the EA Web site.

http://eatech.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/e...i=&p_topview=1

Ticket Information:
Ticket #: 737-833072
Date Created: 6/25/2005 7:20 PM EDT
Category:

To update or check the status of this Ticket:
- Go to: http://support.ati.com/ics/support/d...icketID=833072
- Log in, and you will be automatically taken to the Ticket page.

Customer Care
ATI Technologies Inc.
ati.com

So I guess that BF2 wont run on the 9250 and I am MAD at the Customer service Rep from Emachines that sold me the 9250 to replace my ageing 32mb video card, I got succered into that deal.

YA KNOW IT ALSO SAYS ON THE STICKER ON THE BF2 BOX:

"Video card must have 128 MB or more memory and one of the following chipsets: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700 or greater; ATI Radeon 8500 or greater"

hmmmm, ya think a 9250 is "greater" than 8500????

I WAS GIVEN THIS GAME AS A PRESENT BY MY WELL-MEANING FATHER-IN-LAW. IT IS GOING TO BE MADE TO WORK!!!

Armoredfist · 07-05-2005, 07:19 PM

based upon the lack of posts it seems most of us with Dell 2350s & ATI Radeon 9250s have returned the game to the store by now.

I think I got caught up in this mess a couple of weeks too late.

Anyway, there is a "GART" program that will allow you to adjust AGP cards....there isn't much for us PCI card owners to change.

THE WAY TO PLAY THE GAME (FOR A LITTLE WHILE):

1. Uninstall video drivers.
2. Install Catalyst from the CD....use last year's drivers....do not update.
3. Uninstall BF2...reinstall fresh. reboot
4. You will be able to play SINGLE PLAYER Only after a very long wait.
5. Your computer will crash soon so enjoy it while it lasts. To play again, uninstall BF 2 and do it again. You can't restart it once it's crashed.

Fun!

hairypolack · 07-05-2005, 10:51 PM

ok bs002, we all have the ATi Radeon 9250 "PCI" card. thnx for ur input but it doesnt help anybody. and black mesa u can lick my ()() (balls). there IS a lady at the begining who says welcome soldier and then gets cut off.

As for EA, i posted on thier support forums and i think THIS forum is a waste of time b cuz there seems to be only one way to fix "our" issue..... *drumroll*.....Wait for a F*cking patch to come out. This new one coming out soon didnt give any hints that it would fix our problem but what the f*ck you know. 2 options, wait for a patch to come out or sell your bf2 on ebay. anybody who posts after this is an idiot b cuz there r no

solutions.

This is a dead issue

Hiero · 07-06-2005, 03:14 PM

whoa... i didnt notice there was second page....i saved it on favorites

your thing didnt solve anything... it got me to the menu... and i clicked single player and then crash...

bs002 · 07-07-2005, 04:16 AM

hi it is not in the bios its in the smartgart of the catalyst control panel in the display property settings and YES RADEON 9250 WILL WORK I USE IT ALL THE TIME on 4x not 8x its just a simple slide of the agp speed slider control

bs002 · 07-07-2005, 04:19 AM

u cant use any tweeks just default settings on all in your catalyst control panel and then go on smartgart tab then slide to 4x down from 8x your biggest problem is that the server menu is very slow and basic and those who clone your keys

Armoredfist · 07-07-2005, 07:51 AM

BS002, I'm sure SMARTGART does wonders for a 9250 AGP card.

The problem is, we have 9250 PCI cards. I hope you understand that, friend. When SMARTGART opens, there is no option for changing AGP speeds...at least on my version of SMARTGART with my Dell 2350.

If there's a new version of SMARTGART that allows changing for AGP speeds, when in reality it actually affects our PCI buses & fixes the problem, that'd be great! Let us know where you found it! BS002, what version of SMARTGART are you using? (I'm really grasping, here)

To Hiero and anybody who wants to play BF2 to check it out:

1. Uninstall all ATI drivers.
2. Uninstall BF2
3. Install the 2004 Catalyst drivers from the CD that came with the card (the updated ones will not work)
4. Install BF2, reboot
5. Close down all background tasks, launch the program, choose single player
6. After a long wait, the game will launch and you'll be selecting the spawn point & shooting bad guys. Do not hit the escape key or you'll lock up the game. Once you're in, though you can play to your heart's content.

I played it for over an hour yesterday on my ATI PCI 9250! It's when the program wants to change resolutions, that you're done. It'll lock up and will not work. Rebooting won't work. Trying to re-launch the game will not work. You can play for a while if you go through this RIDICULOUSLY cumbersome process. If you want to see what BF2 does for a while, try it. No, it's not a solution and this game has big time problems with this card but it may be better than nothing until an update comes out.

You have to uninstall video, the game and reinstall to do it again if it locks up.
You can't just re-launch the program.

When you get it to work for a little while, please send in your requests to EA's BF2 tech support for a patch for the ATI PCI 9250 card! Remember the box says "...ATI RADEON 8500 or greater"! It also says that on the website! Isn't a 9250 GREATER than an 8500????? EA has gotta fix this! I've already done it, but there is STRENGTH IN NUMBERS!!!

You can at least report that BF2 does work with this card. It seems ATI or EA should be able to fix the problem.

Let me know if anybody else gets it running for a little while, it is pretty cool.

bs002 · 07-07-2005, 09:45 AM

[quote=Armoredfist]BS002, I'm sure SMARTGART does wonders for a 9250 AGP card.

The problem is, we have 9250 PCI cards. I hope you understand that, friend. When SMARTGART opens, there is no option for changing AGP speeds...at least on my version of SMARTGART with my Dell 2350.

If there's a new version of SMARTGART that allows changing for AGP speeds, when in reality it actually affects our PCI buses & fixes the problem, that'd be great! Let us know where you found it! BS002, what version of SMARTGART are you using? (I'm really grasping, here)

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its the latest catalyst from ati i dont understand why u cant adjust the settings in the smartgart i use the latest drivers and catalyst 5.4/5.5 i have tried all the drivers available but none come close even the omega drivers theres no need to reinstall the game at all sounds more like you need to scrub the driver you have right out and replace it with the newest one from ati these are all problems ive come accross and now i have none at all i just need a valid key.................
the other problem is that your mother board is pretty old as most modern ones has a 2x4x8x supported port but i would think its just your catalyst thats old...............
AND I PLAY THIS BF2 ALL DAY EVERY DAY AND ITS NEVER CRASHED YET AND I CANT BE THE ONLY ONE IN THE WORLD TO GET IT WORKING ON A RADEON 9250 CAN I......
you need to see what speeds your motherboard supports as mine supports 2x4x8x maybe thats why u cant change the agp speed
JUST SOME SUGGESTIONS TRY IT AND SEE MINE IS ALSO A PCI CARD

Armoredfist · 07-09-2005, 12:26 PM

bs002,

Does you motherboard have an AGP slot?

I can't get the latest Catalyst ATI drivers to work. SMARTGART will not launch without an error, neither will the Catalyst control panel. I suspect that if an AGP slot existed on my system then maybe the latest Catalyst would work & I could do the AGP settings from 8x to 4x.

Right now, I can only use the old Catalyst driver setup and there's no option for setting AGP on it.

I might try "installing" an AGP slot in Windows Hardware Wizard...maybe that would allow the new Catalyst setup to work

The flipping game is almost working, that's the disgusting part.

#No.Pr!ntS · 07-22-2005, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ukilledthecat

I decided to upgrade a few things in anticipation of the release of Battlefield 2. So today, I upgraded my RAM from 512-1GB, no problem. Because I have an aging Dell 2350, my range of video card options shrinks considerably with only the old PCI slots. So I went to Best Buy and picked out the best thing they had for my system,an ATI Radeon 9250 256Mb PCI, installed it, no problem with that. But when I go to try the demo of BF2 or Battlefield Vietnam and 1942, I get an error, the game crashes and I'm p***** off. When I try the demo, the graphics are screwed up and an error saying that the video card got stuck in an infinite loop and had to restart. So I have the latest drivers and DirectX dl's. but the DxDiag app says that none of the 3D acceleration, draw capabilites and whatnot are unavailable. Any help or should I be shopping somewhere else?

I am running BF2 on this system:

128MB Radeon 9250 w/ Smartshader (64 bit?) AGP 8x
1.67GHZ AMD Sempron
DVD-ROM
Win XP
512MB Ram

This is a poor specification for this game, but I don't get any video or lag problems whatsoever except my internet connection (ADSL 512kb) can be laggy. I am upgrading to 2mb/s soon so then it will run fine. Need any more details send me a PM to notify me cos im not a regular here I just felt like helping

serialkiller · 08-03-2005, 09:10 PM

ok so what that one dude is saying is that i can change the settings on my card but i dunno where too so if someone knows please e-mail me at not_so_typical18@yahoo.com thanx much

serialkiller · 08-07-2005, 01:20 AM

i just went out and got a new graphics card so now i can play BF2 thanx and good luck guys laterz...

CryogenicViper · 07-21-2006, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by serialkiller

i just went out and got a new graphics card so now i can play BF2 thanx and good luck guys laterz...

What kind of Video card did you get and is it PCI? I have the same problem as the people above.

ydjluv · 04-13-2008, 11:36 AM

I just wanted to put my 2 cents in here... I know this is an old topic... but I have a solution.. heh... dont buy ATI cards and get NVIDIA problem solved.... :) they perform much better than the ATI cards and are widely supported by almost all games... one of the computers I use has the RADEON 9250 and it blows...

07-05-2005, 08:00 AM	#24 (permalink)
Armoredfist Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 8 OS: WinXP	How does one change "...AGP SETTINGS FROM 8X TO 4X...". Thair aint nuthin' in my BIOS re: AGP. Is that a joke on PCI card owners or is there seriously some setting in Windows to tweak? Last edited by Armoredfist; 07-05-2005 at 08:02 AM.

07-06-2005, 03:14 PM	#28 (permalink)
Hiero Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 3 OS: XP	whoa... i didnt notice there was second page....i saved it on favorites your thing didnt solve anything... it got me to the menu... and i clicked single player and then crash... Last edited by Hiero; 07-06-2005 at 03:32 PM.

07-07-2005, 04:19 AM	#30 (permalink)
bs002 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5 OS: XP	u cant use any tweeks just default settings on all in your catalyst control panel and then go on smartgart tab then slide to 4x down from 8x your biggest problem is that the server menu is very slow and basic and those who clone your keys Last edited by bs002; 07-07-2005 at 04:21 AM.

07-07-2005, 07:51 AM	#31 (permalink)
Armoredfist Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 8 OS: WinXP	BF2 Can work on ATI 9250 PCI Card!!!! (for a while) BS002, I'm sure SMARTGART does wonders for a 9250 AGP card. The problem is, we have 9250 PCI cards. I hope you understand that, friend. When SMARTGART opens, there is no option for changing AGP speeds...at least on my version of SMARTGART with my Dell 2350. If there's a new version of SMARTGART that allows changing for AGP speeds, when in reality it actually affects our PCI buses & fixes the problem, that'd be great! Let us know where you found it! BS002, what version of SMARTGART are you using? (I'm really grasping, here) To Hiero and anybody who wants to play BF2 to check it out: 1. Uninstall all ATI drivers. 2. Uninstall BF2 3. Install the 2004 Catalyst drivers from the CD that came with the card (the updated ones will not work) 4. Install BF2, reboot 5. Close down all background tasks, launch the program, choose single player 6. After a long wait, the game will launch and you'll be selecting the spawn point & shooting bad guys. Do not hit the escape key or you'll lock up the game. Once you're in, though you can play to your heart's content. I played it for over an hour yesterday on my ATI PCI 9250! It's when the program wants to change resolutions, that you're done. It'll lock up and will not work. Rebooting won't work. Trying to re-launch the game will not work. You can play for a while if you go through this RIDICULOUSLY cumbersome process. If you want to see what BF2 does for a while, try it. No, it's not a solution and this game has big time problems with this card but it may be better than nothing until an update comes out. You have to uninstall video, the game and reinstall to do it again if it locks up. You can't just re-launch the program. When you get it to work for a little while, please send in your requests to EA's BF2 tech support for a patch for the ATI PCI 9250 card! Remember the box says "...ATI RADEON 8500 or greater"! It also says that on the website! Isn't a 9250 GREATER than an 8500????? EA has gotta fix this! I've already done it, but there is STRENGTH IN NUMBERS!!! You can at least report that BF2 does work with this card. It seems ATI or EA should be able to fix the problem. Let me know if anybody else gets it running for a little while, it is pretty cool. Last edited by Armoredfist; 07-07-2005 at 08:00 AM.

07-07-2005, 09:45 AM	#32 (permalink)
bs002 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5 OS: XP	[quote=Armoredfist]BS002, I'm sure SMARTGART does wonders for a 9250 AGP card. The problem is, we have 9250 PCI cards. I hope you understand that, friend. When SMARTGART opens, there is no option for changing AGP speeds...at least on my version of SMARTGART with my Dell 2350. If there's a new version of SMARTGART that allows changing for AGP speeds, when in reality it actually affects our PCI buses & fixes the problem, that'd be great! Let us know where you found it! BS002, what version of SMARTGART are you using? (I'm really grasping, here) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- its the latest catalyst from ati i dont understand why u cant adjust the settings in the smartgart i use the latest drivers and catalyst 5.4/5.5 i have tried all the drivers available but none come close even the omega drivers theres no need to reinstall the game at all sounds more like you need to scrub the driver you have right out and replace it with the newest one from ati these are all problems ive come accross and now i have none at all i just need a valid key................. the other problem is that your mother board is pretty old as most modern ones has a 2x4x8x supported port but i would think its just your catalyst thats old............... AND I PLAY THIS BF2 ALL DAY EVERY DAY AND ITS NEVER CRASHED YET AND I CANT BE THE ONLY ONE IN THE WORLD TO GET IT WORKING ON A RADEON 9250 CAN I...... you need to see what speeds your motherboard supports as mine supports 2x4x8x maybe thats why u cant change the agp speed JUST SOME SUGGESTIONS TRY IT AND SEE MINE IS ALSO A PCI CARD Last edited by bs002; 07-07-2005 at 10:10 AM.

07-03-2005, 05:17 AM	#21 (permalink)
bs002 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5 OS: XP	DONT REPLACE YOUR RADEONS 9250 ,S I NEARLY DID THIS ALSO JUST CHANGE YOUR AGP SETTING TO 4X DOWN FROM THE DEFAULT 8X ITS UNBELIEVABLE BUT IT WILL WORK AS LONG AS THE OTHER SETTINGS ARE SET AT DEFAULT AND YOUR USING THE CATALYST 5.4 DRIVER TRY IT B4 U WAIST YOUR MONEY REPLACING IT

07-05-2005, 12:37 AM	#22 (permalink)
Armoredfist Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 8 OS: WinXP	Hey bs002!...That's great news! How do you change AGP settings? In BIOS? The Radeon 9250 is a PCI card. BTW: The card WILL work....I was playing it today but it took forever to load....there were many blank screens and much waiting...very SLOOOOW. Once loaded, it played and looked great. The 9250 ATI PCI card does have come kind of problem, though. It took about 45 minutes of waiting before I got to play.

07-05-2005, 07:19 PM	#26 (permalink)
Armoredfist Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 8 OS: WinXP	based upon the lack of posts it seems most of us with Dell 2350s & ATI Radeon 9250s have returned the game to the store by now. I think I got caught up in this mess a couple of weeks too late. Anyway, there is a "GART" program that will allow you to adjust AGP cards....there isn't much for us PCI card owners to change. THE WAY TO PLAY THE GAME (FOR A LITTLE WHILE): 1. Uninstall video drivers. 2. Install Catalyst from the CD....use last year's drivers....do not update. 3. Uninstall BF2...reinstall fresh. reboot 4. You will be able to play SINGLE PLAYER Only after a very long wait. 5. Your computer will crash soon so enjoy it while it lasts. To play again, uninstall BF 2 and do it again. You can't restart it once it's crashed. Fun!

07-05-2005, 10:51 PM	#27 (permalink)
hairypolack Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2 OS: XP	ok bs002, we all have the ATi Radeon 9250 "PCI" card. thnx for ur input but it doesnt help anybody. and black mesa u can lick my ()() (balls). there IS a lady at the begining who says welcome soldier and then gets cut off. As for EA, i posted on thier support forums and i think THIS forum is a waste of time b cuz there seems to be only one way to fix "our" issue..... drumroll.....Wait for a Fcking patch to come out. This new one coming out soon didnt give any hints that it would fix our problem but what the fck you know. 2 options, wait for a patch to come out or sell your bf2 on ebay. anybody who posts after this is an idiot b cuz there r no solutions. This is a dead issue

07-07-2005, 04:16 AM	#29 (permalink)
bs002 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5 OS: XP	hi it is not in the bios its in the smartgart of the catalyst control panel in the display property settings and YES RADEON 9250 WILL WORK I USE IT ALL THE TIME on 4x not 8x its just a simple slide of the agp speed slider control

07-09-2005, 12:26 PM	#33 (permalink)
Armoredfist Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 8 OS: WinXP	bs002, Does you motherboard have an AGP slot? I can't get the latest Catalyst ATI drivers to work. SMARTGART will not launch without an error, neither will the Catalyst control panel. I suspect that if an AGP slot existed on my system then maybe the latest Catalyst would work & I could do the AGP settings from 8x to 4x. Right now, I can only use the old Catalyst driver setup and there's no option for setting AGP on it. I might try "installing" an AGP slot in Windows Hardware Wizard...maybe that would allow the new Catalyst setup to work The flipping game is almost working, that's the disgusting part.

08-03-2005, 09:10 PM	#35 (permalink)
serialkiller Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2 OS: windows xp	im so lost lmao ok so what that one dude is saying is that i can change the settings on my card but i dunno where too so if someone knows please e-mail me at not_so_typical18@yahoo.com thanx much

08-07-2005, 01:20 AM	#36 (permalink)
serialkiller Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2 OS: windows xp	ok so i gave up i just went out and got a new graphics card so now i can play BF2 thanx and good luck guys laterz...

04-13-2008, 11:36 AM	#38 (permalink)
ydjluv Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1 OS: WinXP	Re: Problems with ATI Radeon 9250 I just wanted to put my 2 cents in here... I know this is an old topic... but I have a solution.. heh... dont buy ATI cards and get NVIDIA problem solved.... :) they perform much better than the ATI cards and are widely supported by almost all games... one of the computers I use has the RADEON 9250 and it blows...