not not overclocking

0verkill · 05-19-2005, 09:12 PM

A while ago I managed to get my hands on bfg's pre-oc 6800U. Before I discovered the amd fast-write issue a friend had installed several utilities to attempt to fix the problem which he had thought was due to the 25MHz oc. It's working fine now but one of the utilities decided to randomly oc the core to 454MHz and the memory to 1200 MHz, making it unstable. No matter what I do it always seems to return to this value and it's a pain to manually change it. I'd consider myself computer-literate but I'm posting this to see if anyone has seen this before so I can have an easier time identifying the problem. I suspect power strip may be to blame.

ebackhus · 05-20-2005, 07:35 AM

Try to uninstall any programs that he may have used to OC or tweak the card. If you're lucky it will also fix any registry mods that may be causing the undesired OC. Once that's done run a drive cleaner and do a fresh install of the latest reference drivers from nVidia.

0verkill · 05-27-2005, 07:21 AM

When you say drive cleaner is there a spicific application you are reffering to?

ebackhus · 05-27-2005, 08:17 AM

There are many available for the task...

Detonator Destroyer
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=202

Detonator R.I.P.
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=603

nVidia Nasty File Remover
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=582

0verkill · 06-03-2005, 08:46 PM

I'm still having the same problem, this is driving me insane. I can't figure out what's causing this.

**UncleMacro** · 06-03-2005, 09:55 PM

The only way the utility can make an overclock truly permanent is by flashing the video BIOS and it would have warned you before doing that. Unless you did that, it should just be a utility which is loading itself at startup. You could check in your startup programs to see if an overclock utility is loading itself at boot time and causing the overclocking. If so, then just disable it so it isn't loaded anymore. If you can't find it (and you're not willing to reinstall Windows to fix it) then you could just install another overclock utility like CoolBits or RivaTuner and set it up to automatically set your clock rates correctly every time you reboot (instructions here). CoolBits is pretty innocuous and is built into your NVIDIA drivers anyway so it's no big deal to use it to set your clock rates to their correct values. There's something kind of screwy about using an overclocker utility to prevent overclocking but that should do the trick.

0verkill · 06-11-2005, 10:46 PM

I've tryed what you suggested but I'm still not having any luck. The frequencies are fine after windows boots but they will spontaniously return to 454mhz. Is there a way to set the driver defaults?

**UncleMacro** · 06-11-2005, 11:34 PM

If you haven't already, you should try uninstalling your display driver, boot in safe mode and run DriverCleaner and clean NVIDIA, and then reinstall (detailed instructions here). DriverCleaner is probably the best NVIDIA debris remover. That will make sure that the NVIDIA registry stuff is cleaned out.

CoolBits should set the driver default because it's NVIDIA's code. Even if the clock rates were changed in the video BIOS, CoolBits should override it as soon as it boots. It sounds like one of the overclocker utilities wasn't fully uninstalled. If you can't find it in "Add/Remove Programs", in the startup folder, or with msconfig then it may be difficult to get rid of. Some of those overclocker utilities install drivers. I don't really know how to find something like that. You might try asking "how do I get rid of an overclocker utility I can't find" in one of the Windows forums. If it was me, I'd just bite the bullet and reinstall Windows. It's a pain, but its guaranteed to get rid of any debris you've built up. If that doesn't work then something may have happened to the video BIOS although that seems unlikely.

05-19-2005, 09:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
0verkill Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 9 OS: XP(SP1)	not not overclocking A while ago I managed to get my hands on bfg's pre-oc 6800U. Before I discovered the amd fast-write issue a friend had installed several utilities to attempt to fix the problem which he had thought was due to the 25MHz oc. It's working fine now but one of the utilities decided to randomly oc the core to 454MHz and the memory to 1200 MHz, making it unstable. No matter what I do it always seems to return to this value and it's a pain to manually change it. I'd consider myself computer-literate but I'm posting this to see if anyone has seen this before so I can have an easier time identifying the problem. I suspect power strip may be to blame.

05-20-2005, 07:35 AM	#2 (permalink)
ebackhus Manager, Design Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: SATX Posts: 14,335 OS: WinXP Pro SP3/Windows 7 RTM My System Blog Entries: 28	Try to uninstall any programs that he may have used to OC or tweak the card. If you're lucky it will also fix any registry mods that may be causing the undesired OC. Once that's done run a drive cleaner and do a fresh install of the latest reference drivers from nVidia. __________________ ----------------------------- There are no dumb questions, unless a customer is asking them. Help in the fight against cancer and other serious illnesses.

05-27-2005, 08:17 AM	#4 (permalink)
ebackhus Manager, Design Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: SATX Posts: 14,335 OS: WinXP Pro SP3/Windows 7 RTM My System Blog Entries: 28	There are many available for the task... Detonator Destroyer http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=202 Detonator R.I.P. http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=603 nVidia Nasty File Remover http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=582 __________________ ----------------------------- There are no dumb questions, unless a customer is asking them. Help in the fight against cancer and other serious illnesses.

05-27-2005, 07:21 AM	#3 (permalink)
0verkill Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 9 OS: XP(SP1)	When you say drive cleaner is there a spicific application you are reffering to?

06-03-2005, 08:46 PM	#5 (permalink)
0verkill Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 9 OS: XP(SP1)	I'm still having the same problem, this is driving me insane. I can't figure out what's causing this.

06-03-2005, 09:55 PM	#6 (permalink)
UncleMacro TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,133 OS: Vista SP1 My System	The only way the utility can make an overclock truly permanent is by flashing the video BIOS and it would have warned you before doing that. Unless you did that, it should just be a utility which is loading itself at startup. You could check in your startup programs to see if an overclock utility is loading itself at boot time and causing the overclocking. If so, then just disable it so it isn't loaded anymore. If you can't find it (and you're not willing to reinstall Windows to fix it) then you could just install another overclock utility like CoolBits or RivaTuner and set it up to automatically set your clock rates correctly every time you reboot (instructions here). CoolBits is pretty innocuous and is built into your NVIDIA drivers anyway so it's no big deal to use it to set your clock rates to their correct values. There's something kind of screwy about using an overclocker utility to prevent overclocking but that should do the trick.

06-11-2005, 10:46 PM	#7 (permalink)
0verkill Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 9 OS: XP(SP1)	I've tryed what you suggested but I'm still not having any luck. The frequencies are fine after windows boots but they will spontaniously return to 454mhz. Is there a way to set the driver defaults?

06-11-2005, 11:34 PM	#8 (permalink)
UncleMacro TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,133 OS: Vista SP1 My System	If you haven't already, you should try uninstalling your display driver, boot in safe mode and run DriverCleaner and clean NVIDIA, and then reinstall (detailed instructions here). DriverCleaner is probably the best NVIDIA debris remover. That will make sure that the NVIDIA registry stuff is cleaned out. CoolBits should set the driver default because it's NVIDIA's code. Even if the clock rates were changed in the video BIOS, CoolBits should override it as soon as it boots. It sounds like one of the overclocker utilities wasn't fully uninstalled. If you can't find it in "Add/Remove Programs", in the startup folder, or with msconfig then it may be difficult to get rid of. Some of those overclocker utilities install drivers. I don't really know how to find something like that. You might try asking "how do I get rid of an overclocker utility I can't find" in one of the Windows forums. If it was me, I'd just bite the bullet and reinstall Windows. It's a pain, but its guaranteed to get rid of any debris you've built up. If that doesn't work then something may have happened to the video BIOS although that seems unlikely.