Video card help

Lost_Man · 11-06-2009, 06:35 PM

I just purchased stuff to build a new computer and I have assembled it together avoiding any static charge going to the parts.

Computer Specs:

Case: Apevia X-Dreamer3 (Custom Built System)
Motherboard: Asus M4A79XTD EVO
Video Card: Sapphire 100296HDMI Radeon HD 4670 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Crossfire ready
PSU: Apevia Warlock 900W
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 140W Quad-Core Processor
RAM: OCZ 3G (1G each 3 total)240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 5900 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5"
Monitor: Hanns·G Hi-221DPB Black 22" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 1000

Temp wise for the bit it ran is about 29-30 degrees (Heat Sink for CPU)

Problem:

Everything works but, when it comes down to the Video Card and Monitor. I'm using both VGA and DVI-D cables, hooked them in (even re-checked) and hooked them into the video card. I didn't see any slot to hook anything into the video card from the PSU so I turned it on nothing happened on my monitor I got " No signal input please check video cable ". I re-checked the cables and everything was plugged in. This system is brand new I haven't had any existing video cards on it and there is no on-board (theres no video port to plug into).

Not sure what else to do even contacted Sapphire they couldn't help much Tech couldn't figure it out. Any help would be appreciated. Thank You

**emosun** · 11-06-2009, 07:02 PM

Try bench testing the machine. Assemble it outside of it's case with all non essential hardware to post removed. Only one stick of ram , no hdd's connected ect.

**grimx133** · 11-06-2009, 08:06 PM

Excuse me if I read the OP wrong, but are you trying to use a dvi and vga cable at the same time?

Phædrus2401 · 11-06-2009, 09:12 PM

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php...Story4&reid=92
The Apevia 900W is a low quality PSU, being in fact a 750W unit with a fictional label. It should still run your system though. But if you paid more than $100 for it I'd return it and buy something like the Corsair TX750W which, in an odd irony, could have been rated as a 900W.

Lost_Man · 11-07-2009, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emosun

Try bench testing the machine. Assemble it outside of it's case with all non essential hardware to post removed. Only one stick of ram , no hdd's connected ect.

Did the bench test using this guide How to Bench Test Your System still getting the " No signal input check video cable ". I looked back into my manual for the mobo thinking I missed something I did problem is I don't have the spare 4-pin to connect to the ATX12V other than whats with the main pin combining for 24-pins which I doubt I'd be able to use it. Rest of the cabling I have is 6-pin and 8-pin tried using 4 of the 6 and there was something blocking the way so I couldn't do that. I'm confused now

Thanks for the replies and help

**emosun** · 11-07-2009, 12:52 AM

So your power supply doesn't have a simple 4 pin connector? I also made the same mistake with my new build (not connecting the 4 pin). Mine also failed to boot w/o it. You need to plug that 4 pin in.

Lost_Man · 11-07-2009, 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emosun

So your power supply doesn't have a simple 4 pin connector? I also made the same mistake with my new build (not connecting the 4 pin). Mine also failed to boot w/o it. You need to plug that 4 pin in.

Yeah it doesn't have a spare one which leads me to I picked the wrong PSU is what I'm thinking the 4-pin is in use with the 20-pin main plug don't think I can use it can I?. Fact that without that 4-pin it just won't go. Guessing I'm going to need a compatible PSU I'm figuring? Anyway I can tell which to get or which one to get?

Mcninjaguy · 11-07-2009, 01:06 AM

With your setup you could go for a Corsair 650w and your system would be powered just fine.

Corsair 650w
$100
after rebate $90

**emosun** · 11-07-2009, 01:23 AM

The 4 pin attached to the 20 pin is not the 4 pin you need. The 4 pin you need is it's own cable. my board uses the 20+4 pin , and the 4 pin as well.

Lost_Man · 11-07-2009, 01:38 AM

I'll just have to send it back to Newegg and get the one Mcninjaguy mentioned.

Thanks for the help Emosun, Phaedrus and Mcninjaguy

**grimx133** · 11-07-2009, 01:48 AM

Take a look at the connectors coming from the power supply, often the 4 pin 12v. atx for you cpu looks like the 8 pin that it can be used as. It's probably a 4+4 and comes apart, depending if you need 4 pin or 8 pin cpu power.

Lost_Man · 11-07-2009, 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grimx133

Take a look at the connectors coming from the power supply, often the 4 pin 12v. atx for you cpu looks like the 8 pin that it can be used as. It's probably a 4+4 and comes apart, depending if you need 4 pin or 8 pin cpu power.

Oh wow....Grim you just saved me the trouble of sending this back and cash

found 1 4x4 was connected together which I didn't know plugged it in and it worked. Thanks alot I appreciate you guys help

**grimx133** · 11-07-2009, 02:33 AM

Glad you have it working!

11-06-2009, 06:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
Lost_Man Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 7 OS: Win Xp SP 3	Video card help I just purchased stuff to build a new computer and I have assembled it together avoiding any static charge going to the parts. Computer Specs: Case: Apevia X-Dreamer3 (Custom Built System) Motherboard: Asus M4A79XTD EVO Video Card: Sapphire 100296HDMI Radeon HD 4670 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Crossfire ready PSU: Apevia Warlock 900W CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 140W Quad-Core Processor RAM: OCZ 3G (1G each 3 total)240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 5900 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Monitor: Hanns·G Hi-221DPB Black 22" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 1000 Temp wise for the bit it ran is about 29-30 degrees (Heat Sink for CPU) Problem: Everything works but, when it comes down to the Video Card and Monitor. I'm using both VGA and DVI-D cables, hooked them in (even re-checked) and hooked them into the video card. I didn't see any slot to hook anything into the video card from the PSU so I turned it on nothing happened on my monitor I got " No signal input please check video cable ". I re-checked the cables and everything was plugged in. This system is brand new I haven't had any existing video cards on it and there is no on-board (theres no video port to plug into). Not sure what else to do even contacted Sapphire they couldn't help much Tech couldn't figure it out. Any help would be appreciated. Thank You

11-06-2009, 07:02 PM	#2 (permalink)
emosun Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: usa Posts: 6,890 OS: xp pro sp2 My System	Re: Video card help Try bench testing the machine. Assemble it outside of it's case with all non essential hardware to post removed. Only one stick of ram , no hdd's connected ect. __________________ Gpu Benchmarks Cpu-Z Power supply information and selection Gpu-Z Video card quick list

11-06-2009, 08:06 PM	#3 (permalink)
grimx133 Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Canada eh Posts: 3,121 OS: xp mce sp2, xp pro sp2, windows 7 beta My System	Re: Video card help Excuse me if I read the OP wrong, but are you trying to use a dvi and vga cable at the same time? __________________

11-06-2009, 09:12 PM	#4 (permalink)
Phædrus2401 Hardware Tech Team Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Orleans Posts: 3,698 OS: Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 + Ubuntu 9.04 My System	Re: Video card help http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php...Story4&reid=92 The Apevia 900W is a low quality PSU, being in fact a 750W unit with a fictional label. It should still run your system though. But if you paid more than $100 for it I'd return it and buy something like the Corsair TX750W which, in an odd irony, could have been rated as a 900W. __________________ Good PSU brands: Corsair, SeaSonic, CWT, PC Power and Cooling, Thermaltake Toughpower, CoolerMaster Real Power Pro On 80+ Certification - PSU Information and Selection - Power Supply Myths You don't get what you don't pay for.

11-07-2009, 12:52 AM	#6 (permalink)
emosun Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: usa Posts: 6,890 OS: xp pro sp2 My System	Re: Video card help So your power supply doesn't have a simple 4 pin connector? I also made the same mistake with my new build (not connecting the 4 pin). Mine also failed to boot w/o it. You need to plug that 4 pin in. __________________ Gpu Benchmarks Cpu-Z Power supply information and selection Gpu-Z Video card quick list

11-07-2009, 01:06 AM	#8 (permalink)
Mcninjaguy Temporarily Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 10,422 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Video card help With your setup you could go for a Corsair 650w and your system would be powered just fine. Corsair 650w $100 after rebate $90

11-07-2009, 01:23 AM	#9 (permalink)
emosun Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: usa Posts: 6,890 OS: xp pro sp2 My System	Re: Video card help The 4 pin attached to the 20 pin is not the 4 pin you need. The 4 pin you need is it's own cable. my board uses the 20+4 pin , and the 4 pin as well. __________________ Gpu Benchmarks Cpu-Z Power supply information and selection Gpu-Z Video card quick list

11-07-2009, 01:38 AM	#10 (permalink)
Lost_Man Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 7 OS: Win Xp SP 3	Re: Video card help I'll just have to send it back to Newegg and get the one Mcninjaguy mentioned. Thanks for the help Emosun, Phaedrus and Mcninjaguy

11-07-2009, 01:48 AM	#11 (permalink)
grimx133 Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Canada eh Posts: 3,121 OS: xp mce sp2, xp pro sp2, windows 7 beta My System	Re: Video card help Take a look at the connectors coming from the power supply, often the 4 pin 12v. atx for you cpu looks like the 8 pin that it can be used as. It's probably a 4+4 and comes apart, depending if you need 4 pin or 8 pin cpu power. __________________

11-07-2009, 02:33 AM	#13 (permalink)
grimx133 Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Canada eh Posts: 3,121 OS: xp mce sp2, xp pro sp2, windows 7 beta My System	Re: Video card help Glad you have it working! __________________