New video card

r32 · 10-08-2009, 12:44 AM

Hi.

I want to buy a new video card today : ASUS EN9600GT Silent but my power supply is only 400W and the minimum requirements from the ASUS EN9600GT Silent is 450W, what do you guys think? Will it work?
If I try can I damage the video card or it will just crash when playing games?

Here is a link the video card details: http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/150...ard/index.html

One other thing, are all the new power supply units coming with cables like the ones that I attach in the image below?

Thanks for your help!

**emosun** · 10-08-2009, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by r32

my power supply is only 400W and the minimum requirements from the ASUS EN9600GT Silent is 450W, what do you guys think? Will it work?

Well lets see , 400 is a smaller number then 450 , so no it won't.

The minimum is actually 550w for a 9600 , the "450" recommendation is low balled by the manufacturer. Also if your buying a silent gpu buy only low end silent cards. High end silent cards require more case fans , thus not really making the pc silent.

r32 · 10-08-2009, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by emosun

Well lets see , 400 is a smaller number then 450 , so no it won't.

The minimum is actually 550w for a 9600 , the "450" recommendation is low balled by the manufacturer. Also if your buying a silent gpu buy only low end silent cards. High end silent cards require more case fans , thus not really making the pc silent.

I already have the Antec P180 mini case which has one 20inch fan on top and 1 12 inch fan in the back, is that enough?

**emosun** · 10-08-2009, 10:43 PM

Depends what temperature the room is and what temp everything else in the case is running at. And even if the case is good enough the power supply still isn't.

r32 · 10-08-2009, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by emosun

Depends what temperature the room is and what temp everything else in the case is running at. And even if the case is good enough the power supply still isn't.

I decided to buy a new power supply, chieftec CFT 650-14cs, that should do the work :)

Phædrus2401 · 10-08-2009, 11:35 PM

You've replaced crap with slightly more powerful crap. Don't waste your money, return that PSU and get a worthwhile one.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...=Corsair%20550

**emosun** · 10-09-2009, 12:42 AM

Yea that chieftec is just more junk , go with Phædrus's recomendation and you'll be ok for a 9600. But get a fanned model not a silent model. If you want silent go low end.

r32 · 10-09-2009, 01:29 AM

Unfortunately I can't return the power supply anymore. I will have to survive with this one I guess until my next upgrade...but I have 2 years warranty so at least for that time I feel safe :)

Guys, I have one more question regarding my sound card. If I play music or watch a movie and I have mute on for the microphone, then the sound is good, but once I unchecked the mute option then the sound is bad, any idea why?

Phædrus2401 · 10-09-2009, 01:39 AM

What is the model of the sound card?

And the PSU warranty won't cover damage to your other components caused by the power supply burning out and frying the rest of the system. Which is likely, given Chieftech's quality, or lack thereof.

r32 · 10-09-2009, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Phædrus2401

What is the model of the sound card?

And the PSU warranty won't cover damage to your other components caused by the power supply burning out and frying the rest of the system. Which is likely, given Chieftech's quality, or lack thereof.

I don't actually know, it is the one which comes with the motherboard.
Realtek HD Audio...

By the way, I live in Europe and I bought all my components from one shop, in case I have problems I just take everything there and they will replace it.
Don't know about States but here sometimes the warranty is easy job.

**emosun** · 10-09-2009, 02:13 AM

The problem is the power supply will "wear down" but may stay working. If it's worn down it won't be able to power the 9600 , but will still seem to work fine when tested for a return. They can easily say the power supply is fine and the card is to blame , even if it is in fact the power supply. You should be able to return that power supply easily if you only had it a day or two.

r32 · 10-09-2009, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by emosun

The problem is the power supply will "wear down" but may stay working. If it's worn down it won't be able to power the 9600 , but will still seem to work fine when tested for a return. They can easily say the power supply is fine and the card is to blame , even if it is in fact the power supply. You should be able to return that power supply easily if you only had it a day or two.

Actually I bought it yesterday but it depends on shops, some have this return policy some don't so that might be the tricky part.
What should I choose if I manage to change it, Compucase,Corsair or Zalman?

**emosun** · 10-09-2009, 02:45 AM

The following brands are good , corsair , coolermaster , pc power and cooling , thermaltakes tough power series , silverstone , ocz , or seasonic. Make sure the power supply is 550w or higher with an 80+ certification and has 26 amps on the 12v rail or higher. Do not let them talk you into anything less.

If you bought it yesterday then you definitely can return it. Especially if it's new and not even used.

r32 · 10-09-2009, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by emosun

The following brands are good , corsair , coolermaster , pc power and cooling , thermaltakes tough power series , silverstone , ocz , or seasonic. Make sure the power supply is 550w or higher with an 80+ certification and has 26 amps on the 12v rail or higher. Do not let them talk you into anything less.

If you bought it yesterday then you definitely can return it. Especially if it's new and not even used.

What should I choose between these three:
Corsair CMPSU-650TXEU 96 euros
Corsair Professional HX650W - 123 euros
The Corsair TX750W - 121 euros
Is the HX series better?

By the way, if the cheaper one is good then I would like to go for it :)

Phædrus2401 · 10-09-2009, 03:53 AM

For your any Corsair PSU of 550W or more sure be great. The HX series is a little bit hither end because it has better efficiency and such, but you don't *need* it since the TX ones have great efficiency to begin with.

r32 · 10-09-2009, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Phædrus2401

For your any Corsair PSU of 550W or more sure be great. The HX series is a little bit hither end because it has better efficiency and such, but you don't *need* it since the TX ones have great efficiency to begin with.

Great,then I will exchange the Chieftec to the corsair 550w or 650tx.
Thanks mate
How about the sounds, do you any idea?

dai · 10-09-2009, 05:48 AM

start a thread in sound cards

r32 · 10-09-2009, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by dai

start a thread in sound cards

I did that but nobody replied to me there.

Phædrus2401 · 10-09-2009, 06:02 AM

I don't know about sound cards; I had enough trouble with mine. I might be able to help with basic troubleshooting, but not until tomorrow at least, I'm going on a road trip.

Also, you can tell I wrote my last post at 5:00AM after no sleep... lol

10-08-2009, 10:43 PM	#4 (permalink)
emosun Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: usa Posts: 7,104 OS: xp pro sp2 My System	Re: New video card Depends what temperature the room is and what temp everything else in the case is running at. And even if the case is good enough the power supply still isn't. __________________ Gpu Benchmarks Cpu-Z Power supply information and selection Gpu-Z Video card quick list

10-08-2009, 11:35 PM	#6 (permalink)
Phædrus2401 Hardware Tech Team Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Orleans Posts: 3,912 OS: Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 + Ubuntu 9.04 My System	Re: New video card You've replaced crap with slightly more powerful crap. Don't waste your money, return that PSU and get a worthwhile one. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...=Corsair%20550 __________________ Good PSU brands: Corsair, SeaSonic, CWT, PC Power and Cooling, Thermaltake Toughpower, CoolerMaster Real Power Pro On 80+ Certification - PSU Information and Selection - Power Supply Myths You don't get what you don't pay for.

10-09-2009, 12:42 AM	#7 (permalink)
emosun Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: usa Posts: 7,104 OS: xp pro sp2 My System	Re: New video card Yea that chieftec is just more junk , go with Phædrus's recomendation and you'll be ok for a 9600. But get a fanned model not a silent model. If you want silent go low end. __________________ Gpu Benchmarks Cpu-Z Power supply information and selection Gpu-Z Video card quick list

10-09-2009, 01:29 AM	#8 (permalink)
r32 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 43 OS: Win Xp	Re: New video card Unfortunately I can't return the power supply anymore. I will have to survive with this one I guess until my next upgrade...but I have 2 years warranty so at least for that time I feel safe :) Guys, I have one more question regarding my sound card. If I play music or watch a movie and I have mute on for the microphone, then the sound is good, but once I unchecked the mute option then the sound is bad, any idea why?

10-09-2009, 01:39 AM	#9 (permalink)
Phædrus2401 Hardware Tech Team Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Orleans Posts: 3,912 OS: Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 + Ubuntu 9.04 My System	Re: New video card What is the model of the sound card? And the PSU warranty won't cover damage to your other components caused by the power supply burning out and frying the rest of the system. Which is likely, given Chieftech's quality, or lack thereof. __________________ Good PSU brands: Corsair, SeaSonic, CWT, PC Power and Cooling, Thermaltake Toughpower, CoolerMaster Real Power Pro On 80+ Certification - PSU Information and Selection - Power Supply Myths You don't get what you don't pay for.

10-09-2009, 02:13 AM	#11 (permalink)
emosun Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: usa Posts: 7,104 OS: xp pro sp2 My System	Re: New video card The problem is the power supply will "wear down" but may stay working. If it's worn down it won't be able to power the 9600 , but will still seem to work fine when tested for a return. They can easily say the power supply is fine and the card is to blame , even if it is in fact the power supply. You should be able to return that power supply easily if you only had it a day or two. __________________ Gpu Benchmarks Cpu-Z Power supply information and selection Gpu-Z Video card quick list

10-09-2009, 02:45 AM	#13 (permalink)
emosun Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: usa Posts: 7,104 OS: xp pro sp2 My System	Re: New video card The following brands are good , corsair , coolermaster , pc power and cooling , thermaltakes tough power series , silverstone , ocz , or seasonic. Make sure the power supply is 550w or higher with an 80+ certification and has 26 amps on the 12v rail or higher. Do not let them talk you into anything less. If you bought it yesterday then you definitely can return it. Especially if it's new and not even used. __________________ Gpu Benchmarks Cpu-Z Power supply information and selection Gpu-Z Video card quick list

10-09-2009, 03:53 AM	#15 (permalink)
Phædrus2401 Hardware Tech Team Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Orleans Posts: 3,912 OS: Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 + Ubuntu 9.04 My System	Re: New video card For your any Corsair PSU of 550W or more sure be great. The HX series is a little bit hither end because it has better efficiency and such, but you don't need it since the TX ones have great efficiency to begin with. __________________ Good PSU brands: Corsair, SeaSonic, CWT, PC Power and Cooling, Thermaltake Toughpower, CoolerMaster Real Power Pro On 80+ Certification - PSU Information and Selection - Power Supply Myths You don't get what you don't pay for.

10-09-2009, 05:48 AM	#17 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,797 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	Re: New video card start a thread in sound cards __________________

10-09-2009, 06:02 AM	#19 (permalink)
Phædrus2401 Hardware Tech Team Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Orleans Posts: 3,912 OS: Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 + Ubuntu 9.04 My System	Re: New video card I don't know about sound cards; I had enough trouble with mine. I might be able to help with basic troubleshooting, but not until tomorrow at least, I'm going on a road trip. Also, you can tell I wrote my last post at 5:00AM after no sleep... lol __________________ Good PSU brands: Corsair, SeaSonic, CWT, PC Power and Cooling, Thermaltake Toughpower, CoolerMaster Real Power Pro On 80+ Certification - PSU Information and Selection - Power Supply Myths You don't get what you don't pay for.