ATI radeon Card Issue -

free2dugdug · 08-22-2009, 10:25 AM

Ive Bought my Card December , i managed to gather a little money so i bought the card , I was glad when i bought it Runs fast , plays games like red alert 3 on high , one day out of complete no where the card decides not to run Red alert 3 , Completely Freaked out i go Update my Drivers for my graphics card by first uninstalling the old ones and replaceing them with new Ones , I still couldent even Run red alert 3 , Now it starts constantly crashed Low Tech games Like Command and Counquers Zero Hour and when i Try to run it , Direct X error pops up saying Your card can not run this or Direct X has Crashed which does not make any sense , When im about to crash maybe 30 mintues into the game alot of Strange Weird Articafacts show up and Only seconds after to crash , so i tryed to Trace the problem with a Game Engine called Spring IT told me it loaded everything just fine till this happened and it got to this file

[ 0] Stacktrace:
[ 0] (0) C:\WINDOWS\system32\atioglxx.dll [0x695C0276]

I don't clearly see the issue here this card ran Like Gold Now it just seems to be dieing or something and the card isn't Used its brand new so i really dont understand the problem Here please Help Updating , Uninstalling , and reinstalling the drivers didn't work , the ones on the CD where more Stable but even those couldn't Run High class game Like Ra3 it stress me out because i worked really hard to gather that card and now it gives me problems

Please Help ..

**Tyree** · 08-22-2009, 11:35 AM

What graphics card and what PSU (Brand & Model) do you have?

free2dugdug · 08-22-2009, 12:23 PM

ATI Radeon 4350 Hd , i cant find what my PSU is

Phædrus2401 · 08-22-2009, 02:33 PM

Open up the computer, the power supply should be near the back, it will be a sort of box, the computer's power cord plugs into it, and it has a lot of cables running out the opposite end and into the rest of the computer. Read off the brand name and total wattage rating.

free2dugdug · 08-22-2009, 04:00 PM

Bestec , 300 W MAX output

ebackhus · 08-23-2009, 01:13 AM

You're severely underpowered. That power supply is good only as a paperweight and I'd recommend replacing it with a higher power quality unit before it bites the dust and possibly takes the rest of your hardware with it.

free2dugdug · 08-23-2009, 10:37 AM

Then i Dont understand how could it run Awsomely Graphical games like Fallout 3 and then after a while It just suddenly stops working at its best rate

And now im extremly paranoid

ebackhus · 08-23-2009, 01:51 PM

It was being pushed to the limits. The GPU was doing as best it could on such a low amount of juice and the PSU was pushing as much as it could. One of them has to give and it will be the PSU that does.

free2dugdug · 08-23-2009, 03:55 PM

So will underclocking the card for now till i can manage to get 100$ be the best alternative to keep the PSU stable?

Phædrus2401 · 08-23-2009, 03:59 PM

Underclocking might help, but you're still going to be in the danger zone. I would remove the card and use the old one until you can get a better PSU.

free2dugdug · 08-23-2009, 04:04 PM

What kind of power supply should it use?

How many Watts should it have to run the card

free2dugdug · 08-24-2009, 10:57 AM

Ever since i was reported by the tech team to switch to my Old graphic card ( Im not blameing you guys)

i have not bein able to boot up windows normally , infact it wont boot up normally unless my New Graphics card is installed which is the ATI Radeon 4350 HD ,

Now it did once Boot Normally with my Xpress Series 200 card but after that every time i tryed to boot it up it would Just reset to my boot screen
And do this constant cycle

it seems the only way to fauntion is with the new card

but i dont want to kill my power supply nor do i want to System recover to Restore the issue

free2dugdug · 08-24-2009, 07:13 PM

Is anybody there oO i haven't gotten a response yet

**simpswr** · 08-24-2009, 07:23 PM

If you cana get into BIOS with the old card, reset to defaults

free2dugdug · 08-27-2009, 12:20 AM

Im sorry but i did some research on the ATI radeon 4350 HD card and it stated my Power supply was Perfect for running the card

Phædrus2401 · 08-27-2009, 08:23 AM

We don't trust manufacturer power requirements, at least not for newer cards. They like to *way* understate the card's power requirements, basically assuming that you have the minimum of everything for your other components. The lower the power requirement the more people will buy it, thinking it will work in their system.

We recommend a power supply with a minimum of 26A on its +12V rail for any PCIe x16 graphics card. Which yours does not have. That works out to a *minimum* wattage of 312W. That's not even counting the +5V and +3.3V rails. You need to be looking at a high quality 400w at minimum.

Corsair cx400w: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139008
SeaSonic SS-400ES BRONZE 400w: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817151078

08-22-2009, 10:25 AM	#1 (permalink)
free2dugdug Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 12 OS: Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005	ATI radeon Card Issue - Ive Bought my Card December , i managed to gather a little money so i bought the card , I was glad when i bought it Runs fast , plays games like red alert 3 on high , one day out of complete no where the card decides not to run Red alert 3 , Completely Freaked out i go Update my Drivers for my graphics card by first uninstalling the old ones and replaceing them with new Ones , I still couldent even Run red alert 3 , Now it starts constantly crashed Low Tech games Like Command and Counquers Zero Hour and when i Try to run it , Direct X error pops up saying Your card can not run this or Direct X has Crashed which does not make any sense , When im about to crash maybe 30 mintues into the game alot of Strange Weird Articafacts show up and Only seconds after to crash , so i tryed to Trace the problem with a Game Engine called Spring IT told me it loaded everything just fine till this happened and it got to this file [ 0] Stacktrace: [ 0] (0) C:\WINDOWS\system32\atioglxx.dll [0x695C0276] I don't clearly see the issue here this card ran Like Gold Now it just seems to be dieing or something and the card isn't Used its brand new so i really dont understand the problem Here please Help Updating , Uninstalling , and reinstalling the drivers didn't work , the ones on the CD where more Stable but even those couldn't Run High class game Like Ra3 it stress me out because i worked really hard to gather that card and now it gives me problems Please Help ..

08-22-2009, 11:35 AM	#2 (permalink)
Tyree Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: May 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 5,828 OS: XP Pro-7RC-Mandriva My System	Re: ATI radeon Card Issue - What graphics card and what PSU (Brand & Model) do you have? __________________ Posting your PC specs will help us to help you quicker and more efficiently.

08-22-2009, 12:23 PM	#3 (permalink)
free2dugdug Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 12 OS: Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005	Re: ATI radeon Card Issue - ATI Radeon 4350 Hd , i cant find what my PSU is

08-22-2009, 02:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
Phædrus2401 Hardware Tech Team Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Orleans Posts: 3,907 OS: Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 + Ubuntu 9.04 My System	Re: ATI radeon Card Issue - Open up the computer, the power supply should be near the back, it will be a sort of box, the computer's power cord plugs into it, and it has a lot of cables running out the opposite end and into the rest of the computer. Read off the brand name and total wattage rating. __________________ Good PSU brands: Corsair, SeaSonic, CWT, PC Power and Cooling, Thermaltake Toughpower, CoolerMaster Real Power Pro On 80+ Certification - PSU Information and Selection - Power Supply Myths You don't get what you don't pay for.

08-22-2009, 04:00 PM	#5 (permalink)
free2dugdug Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 12 OS: Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005	Re: ATI radeon Card Issue - Bestec , 300 W MAX output

08-23-2009, 01:13 AM	#6 (permalink)
ebackhus Manager, Design Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: SATX Posts: 14,335 OS: WinXP Pro SP3/Windows 7 RTM My System Blog Entries: 28	Re: ATI radeon Card Issue - You're severely underpowered. That power supply is good only as a paperweight and I'd recommend replacing it with a higher power quality unit before it bites the dust and possibly takes the rest of your hardware with it. __________________ ----------------------------- There are no dumb questions, unless a customer is asking them. Help in the fight against cancer and other serious illnesses.

08-23-2009, 10:37 AM	#7 (permalink)
free2dugdug Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 12 OS: Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005	Re: ATI radeon Card Issue - Then i Dont understand how could it run Awsomely Graphical games like Fallout 3 and then after a while It just suddenly stops working at its best rate And now im extremly paranoid Last edited by free2dugdug; 08-23-2009 at 10:47 AM.

08-23-2009, 01:51 PM	#8 (permalink)
ebackhus Manager, Design Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: SATX Posts: 14,335 OS: WinXP Pro SP3/Windows 7 RTM My System Blog Entries: 28	Re: ATI radeon Card Issue - It was being pushed to the limits. The GPU was doing as best it could on such a low amount of juice and the PSU was pushing as much as it could. One of them has to give and it will be the PSU that does. __________________ ----------------------------- There are no dumb questions, unless a customer is asking them. Help in the fight against cancer and other serious illnesses.

08-23-2009, 03:55 PM	#9 (permalink)
free2dugdug Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 12 OS: Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005	Re: ATI radeon Card Issue - So will underclocking the card for now till i can manage to get 100$ be the best alternative to keep the PSU stable?

08-23-2009, 03:59 PM	#10 (permalink)
Phædrus2401 Hardware Tech Team Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Orleans Posts: 3,907 OS: Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 + Ubuntu 9.04 My System	Re: ATI radeon Card Issue - Underclocking might help, but you're still going to be in the danger zone. I would remove the card and use the old one until you can get a better PSU. __________________ Good PSU brands: Corsair, SeaSonic, CWT, PC Power and Cooling, Thermaltake Toughpower, CoolerMaster Real Power Pro On 80+ Certification - PSU Information and Selection - Power Supply Myths You don't get what you don't pay for.

08-23-2009, 04:04 PM	#11 (permalink)
free2dugdug Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 12 OS: Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005	Re: ATI radeon Card Issue - What kind of power supply should it use? How many Watts should it have to run the card

08-24-2009, 10:57 AM	#12 (permalink)
free2dugdug Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 12 OS: Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005	Windows Start Up Issues Ever since i was reported by the tech team to switch to my Old graphic card ( Im not blameing you guys) i have not bein able to boot up windows normally , infact it wont boot up normally unless my New Graphics card is installed which is the ATI Radeon 4350 HD , Now it did once Boot Normally with my Xpress Series 200 card but after that every time i tryed to boot it up it would Just reset to my boot screen And do this constant cycle it seems the only way to fauntion is with the new card but i dont want to kill my power supply nor do i want to System recover to Restore the issue

08-24-2009, 07:13 PM	#13 (permalink)
free2dugdug Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 12 OS: Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005	Re: Windows Start Up Issues Is anybody there oO i haven't gotten a response yet

08-24-2009, 07:23 PM	#14 (permalink)
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08-27-2009, 12:20 AM	#15 (permalink)
free2dugdug Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 12 OS: Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005	Re: ATI radeon Card Issue - Im sorry but i did some research on the ATI radeon 4350 HD card and it stated my Power supply was Perfect for running the card

08-27-2009, 08:23 AM	#16 (permalink)
Phædrus2401 Hardware Tech Team Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Orleans Posts: 3,907 OS: Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 + Ubuntu 9.04 My System	Re: ATI radeon Card Issue - We don't trust manufacturer power requirements, at least not for newer cards. They like to way understate the card's power requirements, basically assuming that you have the minimum of everything for your other components. The lower the power requirement the more people will buy it, thinking it will work in their system. We recommend a power supply with a minimum of 26A on its +12V rail for any PCIe x16 graphics card. Which yours does not have. That works out to a minimum wattage of 312W. That's not even counting the +5V and +3.3V rails. You need to be looking at a high quality 400w at minimum. Corsair cx400w: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139008 SeaSonic SS-400ES BRONZE 400w: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817151078 __________________ Good PSU brands: Corsair, SeaSonic, CWT, PC Power and Cooling, Thermaltake Toughpower, CoolerMaster Real Power Pro On 80+ Certification - PSU Information and Selection - Power Supply Myths You don't get what you don't pay for.