random texture swaps and lock ups

delciotto · 06-21-2009, 08:13 PM

Pretty much randomly while I'm playing any game, most the textures get swapped around and the ui/hud get messed up as well. I also get random computer lock ups while playing and when I'm restarting my comp at the windows load screen. what could cause this to happen? I've also attached pretty much all the info you need for my comp in a text file

delciotto · 06-24-2009, 04:04 AM

can anyone help me with this?

**grimx133** · 06-25-2009, 08:28 PM

Well, a very important piece of info that isn't in the dxdiag is the psu. You need to take the side cover off and look at the label for the make and model, as well as the output, in amps, for the +3.3, +5, and +12volt rail(s). Check your bios for the actual values for those rails, it'll be under hardware monitoring or pc health, usually in the power section. Get your temperatures at the same time, it's in the same place. I'm thinking power or heat, at this time. Use gpu-z to check your graphics card temp in the sensors tab.

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/

delciotto · 06-26-2009, 03:47 AM

http://www.silverstonetek.com/produc...t65zf&area=usa

thats my psu and here are some temps while playing fallout 3

**grimx133** · 06-26-2009, 02:48 PM

70C. for a load temp isn't too bad at all.

What drivers are you using, and have you tried different ones?

delciotto · 06-26-2009, 05:44 PM

im using the latest ones from nvidia, this has been happening for awhile and ive updated atleast 3 times since it started

**grimx133** · 06-26-2009, 07:11 PM

Silverstone is a good psu brand, though the available amps are more suited to a 550watt power supply. The power distribution amongst the rails is a bit odd too. What did the bios give for temperatures and voltages?

Also see if you can borrow another video card to try, and/or try yours in another computer. Would be nice to rule out the card, though that could certainly be it.

delciotto · 06-26-2009, 10:33 PM

i don't have another video card i could try and even if i did it could be days before i see the problem again it comes and goes in bursts and here is the bios info

CPU temp: 52C
MB temp 48C
Vcore: 1.312V
3.3: 3.28V
5: 5.12v
12: 12.01V

**grimx133** · 06-26-2009, 11:54 PM

The voltages look ok, +3.3 and +12 are pretty much bang on. The +5 is half way to the spec limit, but should be fine too. Your temps are a bit warm though, 52C. at idle isn't where I'd like to be, still not a dangerous temperature unless it takes a huge spike when stressed.

Have you tried an older driver, I use the old fallback 178.24's on occasion, it seems a very stable nVidia driver. Have heard of problems with the 185.x's.
Another thing to try is to clean the old drivers after uninstalling them. Try this method.

Download and install driversweeper from Guru3d, but do not run it yet. http://www.guru3d.com/category/driversweeper/
Uninstall current drivers
Reboot computer, tapping F8 for boot selection menu, and then go into
vga mode, or safe mode if not available.
Disable your antivirus.
Run driversweeper and clean the nVidia display driver remnants.
Install drivers.
Reboot into normal mode, and turn your antivirus back on.

Sometimes with driver problems, that extra step of cleaning the leftovers makes all the difference.

delciotto · 06-27-2009, 11:46 AM

ahh the 52C wasn't really idle i waited about 15min before i wrote down the temps,its usually quiet a bit cooler. also you think this driver downgrade will fix the lock ups when on the windows load screen too?

**grimx133** · 06-27-2009, 01:22 PM

It's one of those "worth a shot" things, that driver version is known as one of the more stable releases. Still thinking you need to try the card in another computer, or try another card in yours.
About the only other thing I can think of is .Net Framework 2.0, try installing that before the driver install.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

delciotto · 06-27-2009, 06:59 PM

well i downgraded the drivers and i haven't had a lockup at the windows loading screen yet so it might of worked

06-24-2009, 04:04 AM	#2 (permalink)
delciotto Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 38 OS: Windows XP	Re: random texture swaps and lock ups can anyone help me with this?

06-25-2009, 08:28 PM	#3 (permalink)
grimx133 Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Canada eh Posts: 3,134 OS: xp mce sp2, xp pro sp2, windows 7 beta My System	Re: random texture swaps and lock ups Well, a very important piece of info that isn't in the dxdiag is the psu. You need to take the side cover off and look at the label for the make and model, as well as the output, in amps, for the +3.3, +5, and +12volt rail(s). Check your bios for the actual values for those rails, it'll be under hardware monitoring or pc health, usually in the power section. Get your temperatures at the same time, it's in the same place. I'm thinking power or heat, at this time. Use gpu-z to check your graphics card temp in the sensors tab. http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/ __________________

06-26-2009, 03:47 AM	#4 (permalink)
delciotto Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 38 OS: Windows XP	Re: random texture swaps and lock ups http://www.silverstonetek.com/produc...t65zf&area=usa thats my psu and here are some temps while playing fallout 3

06-26-2009, 02:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
grimx133 Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Canada eh Posts: 3,134 OS: xp mce sp2, xp pro sp2, windows 7 beta My System	Re: random texture swaps and lock ups 70C. for a load temp isn't too bad at all. What drivers are you using, and have you tried different ones? __________________

06-26-2009, 05:44 PM	#6 (permalink)
delciotto Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 38 OS: Windows XP	Re: random texture swaps and lock ups im using the latest ones from nvidia, this has been happening for awhile and ive updated atleast 3 times since it started

06-26-2009, 07:11 PM	#7 (permalink)
grimx133 Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Canada eh Posts: 3,134 OS: xp mce sp2, xp pro sp2, windows 7 beta My System	Re: random texture swaps and lock ups Silverstone is a good psu brand, though the available amps are more suited to a 550watt power supply. The power distribution amongst the rails is a bit odd too. What did the bios give for temperatures and voltages? Also see if you can borrow another video card to try, and/or try yours in another computer. Would be nice to rule out the card, though that could certainly be it. __________________

06-26-2009, 10:33 PM	#8 (permalink)
delciotto Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 38 OS: Windows XP	Re: random texture swaps and lock ups i don't have another video card i could try and even if i did it could be days before i see the problem again it comes and goes in bursts and here is the bios info CPU temp: 52C MB temp 48C Vcore: 1.312V 3.3: 3.28V 5: 5.12v 12: 12.01V

06-26-2009, 11:54 PM	#9 (permalink)
grimx133 Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Canada eh Posts: 3,134 OS: xp mce sp2, xp pro sp2, windows 7 beta My System	Re: random texture swaps and lock ups The voltages look ok, +3.3 and +12 are pretty much bang on. The +5 is half way to the spec limit, but should be fine too. Your temps are a bit warm though, 52C. at idle isn't where I'd like to be, still not a dangerous temperature unless it takes a huge spike when stressed. Have you tried an older driver, I use the old fallback 178.24's on occasion, it seems a very stable nVidia driver. Have heard of problems with the 185.x's. Another thing to try is to clean the old drivers after uninstalling them. Try this method. Download and install driversweeper from Guru3d, but do not run it yet. http://www.guru3d.com/category/driversweeper/ Uninstall current drivers Reboot computer, tapping F8 for boot selection menu, and then go into vga mode, or safe mode if not available. Disable your antivirus. Run driversweeper and clean the nVidia display driver remnants. Install drivers. Reboot into normal mode, and turn your antivirus back on. Sometimes with driver problems, that extra step of cleaning the leftovers makes all the difference. __________________

06-27-2009, 11:46 AM	#10 (permalink)
delciotto Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 38 OS: Windows XP	Re: random texture swaps and lock ups ahh the 52C wasn't really idle i waited about 15min before i wrote down the temps,its usually quiet a bit cooler. also you think this driver downgrade will fix the lock ups when on the windows load screen too?

06-27-2009, 01:22 PM	#11 (permalink)
grimx133 Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Canada eh Posts: 3,134 OS: xp mce sp2, xp pro sp2, windows 7 beta My System	Re: random texture swaps and lock ups It's one of those "worth a shot" things, that driver version is known as one of the more stable releases. Still thinking you need to try the card in another computer, or try another card in yours. About the only other thing I can think of is .Net Framework 2.0, try installing that before the driver install. http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en __________________

06-27-2009, 06:59 PM	#12 (permalink)
delciotto Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 38 OS: Windows XP	Re: random texture swaps and lock ups well i downgraded the drivers and i haven't had a lockup at the windows loading screen yet so it might of worked