Finally upgrading video card..advice please.

gspotdrop · 03-09-2009, 09:13 PM

It seems that the new PC games coming out just wont play unless I upgrade the graphics card. Heres what I have, If I need to provide more info let me know. I am looking to spend no more than $60, hopefully thats enough to get a pretty good card, if not I might be able to go a bit higher. Any advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated, thank you very much. - Gary

HP Pavilion 061 PJ510AA-ABA A730N 0nB1211RE101GROUP00
Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3 (build 2600)

**emosun** · 03-10-2009, 02:58 AM

Welcome to tsf.

This is the Pavilion A730N correct? Are you currently using a video card or the on board graphics? 60$ isn't a whole lot so you will pretty much be looking at low end cards that will be able to run on it's stock 300w power supply.

gspotdrop · 03-10-2009, 03:02 AM

Yes the A730n. I was recommended the Radeon 4650 by a friend, what do you think about that, will it work for my system? Thanks.

**emosun** · 03-10-2009, 03:16 AM

Well no I would not use that w/o a proper power supply. That is a mid range card and your system for only 60$ is suited for low end cards only such as 4350's and 9400's. What card is the system currently using , or is it using the onboard intel graphics?

gspotdrop · 03-10-2009, 03:21 AM

Yes the on board intel graphics. The power supply is actually something i have replaced. Its now 380w.

**emosun** · 03-10-2009, 04:36 AM

What is the make and model of the 380w.

dai · 03-10-2009, 04:55 AM

any 380w is unlikely to cut it with that card

**emosun** · 03-10-2009, 05:17 AM

If it's a decent 380w the ddr2 model's would be ok , I'd only be worried if it were a ddr3 model. But thats only provideing that it's a decent 380w , if not then only low ends.

gspotdrop · 03-10-2009, 12:20 PM

This is the one that I have.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817152019&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Power+Supplies-_-Raidmax-_-17152019

Logo09 · 03-10-2009, 12:26 PM

Hey if you dont mind spending about $80 i suggest an ati radeon 4670. I have one in my hp dx2300 and that only has a 250W psu and it runs perfectly. here is the one i have :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161252

Its a pretty decent card. 512MB DDR3 2Ghz memory clock and 780Mhz core clock. I play fallout three on it maxed out ant it runs very smoothly.

**emosun** · 03-10-2009, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Logo09

Hi suggest an ati radeon 4670. I have one in my hp dx2300 and that only has a 250W psu and it runs perfectly

Not for long it doesn't.

Sorry but that raidmax 380w isn't very good at all , hence the 20$ price tag. And the "theory" that 4670 will work good on a 250w is also just incorrect. Considering it actually needs a decent 450w or higher.

Because of the power supplies quality I'm going to only recommend the 4350 or the 9400 in ddr2 only.

Logo09 · 03-11-2009, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emosun

Not for long it doesn't.

Sorry but that raidmax 380w isn't very good at all , hence the 20$ price tag. And the "theory" that 4670 will work good on a 250w is also just incorrect. Considering it actually needs a decent 450w or higher.

Because of the power supplies quality I'm going to only recommend the 4350 or the 9400 in ddr2 only.

I have been using it for a couple of months now and i havent had a single problem. Its no theory, its a reality. And it works well with the 250w. Not good.

dai · 03-11-2009, 08:24 PM

we recommend something that will run long term,not some thing that will run for a short term and will then need replacing again
with the possibility of causing damage to other components when it goes
agp cardsneed a min of 18amps on the 12v line
some of the newer agp card need 22-24a
you just don't find these specs on low wattage psu's

**emosun** · 03-11-2009, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Logo09

I have been using it for a couple of months now and i havent had a single problem. Its no theory, its a reality. And it works well with the 250w. Not good.

It's not going to work much longer. Sorry but to run a card under powered and claim that it doesn't need even whats recommended on the box is not a smart move.

03-09-2009, 09:13 PM	#1 (permalink)
gspotdrop Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 4 OS: Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3 (build 2600)	Finally upgrading video card..advice please. It seems that the new PC games coming out just wont play unless I upgrade the graphics card. Heres what I have, If I need to provide more info let me know. I am looking to spend no more than $60, hopefully thats enough to get a pretty good card, if not I might be able to go a bit higher. Any advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated, thank you very much. - Gary HP Pavilion 061 PJ510AA-ABA A730N 0nB1211RE101GROUP00 Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3 (build 2600)

03-10-2009, 02:58 AM	#2 (permalink)
emosun Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: usa Posts: 6,958 OS: xp pro sp2 My System	Re: Finally upgrading video card..advice please. Welcome to tsf. This is the Pavilion A730N correct? Are you currently using a video card or the on board graphics? 60$ isn't a whole lot so you will pretty much be looking at low end cards that will be able to run on it's stock 300w power supply. __________________ Gpu Benchmarks Cpu-Z Power supply information and selection Gpu-Z Video card quick list

03-10-2009, 03:02 AM	#3 (permalink)
gspotdrop Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 4 OS: Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3 (build 2600)	Re: Finally upgrading video card..advice please. Yes the A730n. I was recommended the Radeon 4650 by a friend, what do you think about that, will it work for my system? Thanks.

03-10-2009, 03:16 AM	#4 (permalink)
emosun Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: usa Posts: 6,958 OS: xp pro sp2 My System	Re: Finally upgrading video card..advice please. Well no I would not use that w/o a proper power supply. That is a mid range card and your system for only 60$ is suited for low end cards only such as 4350's and 9400's. What card is the system currently using , or is it using the onboard intel graphics? __________________ Gpu Benchmarks Cpu-Z Power supply information and selection Gpu-Z Video card quick list

03-10-2009, 03:21 AM	#5 (permalink)
gspotdrop Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 4 OS: Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3 (build 2600)	Re: Finally upgrading video card..advice please. Yes the on board intel graphics. The power supply is actually something i have replaced. Its now 380w.

03-10-2009, 04:36 AM	#6 (permalink)
emosun Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: usa Posts: 6,958 OS: xp pro sp2 My System	Re: Finally upgrading video card..advice please. What is the make and model of the 380w. __________________ Gpu Benchmarks Cpu-Z Power supply information and selection Gpu-Z Video card quick list

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dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,593 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	Re: Finally upgrading video card..advice please. any 380w is unlikely to cut it with that card __________________

03-10-2009, 05:17 AM	#8 (permalink)
emosun Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: usa Posts: 6,958 OS: xp pro sp2 My System	Re: Finally upgrading video card..advice please. If it's a decent 380w the ddr2 model's would be ok , I'd only be worried if it were a ddr3 model. But thats only provideing that it's a decent 380w , if not then only low ends. __________________ Gpu Benchmarks Cpu-Z Power supply information and selection Gpu-Z Video card quick list

03-10-2009, 12:20 PM	#9 (permalink)
gspotdrop Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 4 OS: Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3 (build 2600)	Re: Finally upgrading video card..advice please. This is the one that I have. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817152019&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Power+Supplies-_-Raidmax-_-17152019

03-10-2009, 12:26 PM	#10 (permalink)
Logo09 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 98 OS: Windows 7 RC build 7100 My System	Re: Finally upgrading video card..advice please. Hey if you dont mind spending about $80 i suggest an ati radeon 4670. I have one in my hp dx2300 and that only has a 250W psu and it runs perfectly. here is the one i have : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161252 Its a pretty decent card. 512MB DDR3 2Ghz memory clock and 780Mhz core clock. I play fallout three on it maxed out ant it runs very smoothly.

03-11-2009, 08:24 PM	#13 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,593 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	Re: Finally upgrading video card..advice please. we recommend something that will run long term,not some thing that will run for a short term and will then need replacing again with the possibility of causing damage to other components when it goes agp cardsneed a min of 18amps on the 12v line some of the newer agp card need 22-24a you just don't find these specs on low wattage psu's __________________