Need an AGP card

arej00dazed · 01-10-2009, 07:30 PM

I have a dell 4600 P4 2.8ghz, 1.5gb pc3200, 250wt power supply, geforce 5200, xp pro. I want a new vid card. Whats the best AGP vid card I can get for under $200 with my specs? I know the power supply could be a problem. But I think this dell may need the MB adapter if I were to get a new PSU. I was looking at the geforce 9600gt(?) i think, around a year ago but didnt have the money until now.

Oh by the way, it'll be used for general PC use, acad/3d acad, and moderate gaming (want to be able to play halo, doom 3, etc)

dai · 01-10-2009, 07:47 PM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102814

arej00dazed · 01-11-2009, 08:43 AM

shoulda mentioned that I needed VGA inputs for a KVM switch

dai · 01-11-2009, 01:16 PM

you can use dvi to vga plugs
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...=AGP%204X%2f8X

**emosun** · 01-11-2009, 01:22 PM

If you have 200$ I would bank it , don't blow it on agp.

And if your just playing halo 1 and doom 3 then you could just snag a cheapo geforce 7600 off ebay. It's cheap and will hold you over till you get a new machine. Plus it's nvidia so you won't have the driver problems with moving over to ati or moveing up to there second gen agp cards. And should be plenty for halo , doom3 , and 3d work.

http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_dmp...12mb&_osacat=0

arej00dazed · 01-11-2009, 07:45 PM

oh man, ebay. yeah, Im not a big ebay shopper, been burned many times. But what places besides newegg and tigerdirect should I look? AGP cards are getting hard to find, goin the way of the dodo

so you suggest a geforce 7600. as long as it doesnt stall like my current card does....kinda sux when playing online and the vid freezes for 30~ sec

**emosun** · 01-11-2009, 10:58 PM

http://www.google.com/products?q=760...w=dd&scoring=p

If your current one freezes it could be that 250w powersupply. You can cheap out on the gpu since it's just agp and you will pretty much have to throw it away or closet it when you get your next machine. But you can however dump alot into a good powersupply as they barely change over the years. Maybe a quality 550 to 600 watt to future proof whatever you may get in your next rig.

arej00dazed · 01-14-2009, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arej00dazed

I have a dell 4600 P4 2.8ghz, But I think this dell may need the MB adapter if I were to get a new PSU.

Im 99% sure it needs the adapter for a regular PSU to work and not fry the MB. I've looked into this, but its been awhile and the details are foggy. Besides, Im dropping enough money getting a new HD and controller card. Im surprised dell put such a small PSU in it in the first place.

dai · 01-14-2009, 04:18 PM

dell have used standard atx psu's from the p4 onwards

arej00dazed · 01-17-2009, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dai

dell have used standard atx psu's from the p4 onwards

not according to a dell "technician" I just chatted with. According to them I will need that adapter:

Quote:

yes you power supply is 250 w and I'm sorry that the only compatible power for your system, and you have SATA

dai · 01-17-2009, 02:09 PM

well they should know

info sourced from dell

http://pinouts.ru/Power/dell_atxpower_pinout.shtml

**emosun** · 01-17-2009, 02:17 PM

Yea never bother talking to the technicians.

I used to have a gateway and wanted to upgrade the cpu , talked to gateway support and they told me it wasn't possible. Then I came here and asked and found out they were just simply lieing , the upgrade was possible and I did upgrade the cpu.

arej00dazed · 01-17-2009, 02:30 PM

well shoot, how do I find out for sure? will that link you sent me tell me? I can't tell if the diagram is for the Dell F'd up version or type ATX PSU.

At least I supposedly have a SATA connection on the board, that'll solve my HD dilema.

dai · 01-18-2009, 01:01 AM

if your colour wires going into the plug match the the same as the diagram then yours is propriatary

if it matches these it is standard atx

http://www.smpspowersupply.com/connectors-pinouts.html

01-10-2009, 07:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
arej00dazed Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 70 OS: winXP Pro SP2	Need an AGP card I have a dell 4600 P4 2.8ghz, 1.5gb pc3200, 250wt power supply, geforce 5200, xp pro. I want a new vid card. Whats the best AGP vid card I can get for under $200 with my specs? I know the power supply could be a problem. But I think this dell may need the MB adapter if I were to get a new PSU. I was looking at the geforce 9600gt(?) i think, around a year ago but didnt have the money until now. Oh by the way, it'll be used for general PC use, acad/3d acad, and moderate gaming (want to be able to play halo, doom 3, etc) Last edited by arej00dazed; 01-10-2009 at 07:31 PM.

01-10-2009, 07:47 PM	#2 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,784 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	Re: Need an AGP card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102814 __________________

01-11-2009, 08:43 AM	#3 (permalink)
arej00dazed Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 70 OS: winXP Pro SP2	Re: Need an AGP card shoulda mentioned that I needed VGA inputs for a KVM switch

01-11-2009, 01:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,784 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	Re: Need an AGP card you can use dvi to vga plugs http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...=AGP%204X%2f8X __________________

01-11-2009, 01:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
emosun Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: usa Posts: 7,087 OS: xp pro sp2 My System	Re: Need an AGP card If you have 200$ I would bank it , don't blow it on agp. And if your just playing halo 1 and doom 3 then you could just snag a cheapo geforce 7600 off ebay. It's cheap and will hold you over till you get a new machine. Plus it's nvidia so you won't have the driver problems with moving over to ati or moveing up to there second gen agp cards. And should be plenty for halo , doom3 , and 3d work. http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_dmp...12mb&_osacat=0 __________________ Gpu Benchmarks Cpu-Z Power supply information and selection Gpu-Z Video card quick list

01-11-2009, 07:45 PM	#6 (permalink)
arej00dazed Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 70 OS: winXP Pro SP2	Re: Need an AGP card oh man, ebay. yeah, Im not a big ebay shopper, been burned many times. But what places besides newegg and tigerdirect should I look? AGP cards are getting hard to find, goin the way of the dodo so you suggest a geforce 7600. as long as it doesnt stall like my current card does....kinda sux when playing online and the vid freezes for 30~ sec Last edited by arej00dazed; 01-11-2009 at 07:47 PM.

01-11-2009, 10:58 PM	#7 (permalink)
emosun Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: usa Posts: 7,087 OS: xp pro sp2 My System	Re: Need an AGP card http://www.google.com/products?q=760...w=dd&scoring=p If your current one freezes it could be that 250w powersupply. You can cheap out on the gpu since it's just agp and you will pretty much have to throw it away or closet it when you get your next machine. But you can however dump alot into a good powersupply as they barely change over the years. Maybe a quality 550 to 600 watt to future proof whatever you may get in your next rig. __________________ Gpu Benchmarks Cpu-Z Power supply information and selection Gpu-Z Video card quick list

01-14-2009, 04:18 PM	#9 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,784 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	Re: Need an AGP card dell have used standard atx psu's from the p4 onwards __________________

01-17-2009, 02:09 PM	#11 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,784 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	Re: Need an AGP card well they should know info sourced from dell http://pinouts.ru/Power/dell_atxpower_pinout.shtml __________________

01-17-2009, 02:17 PM	#12 (permalink)
emosun Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: usa Posts: 7,087 OS: xp pro sp2 My System	Re: Need an AGP card Yea never bother talking to the technicians. I used to have a gateway and wanted to upgrade the cpu , talked to gateway support and they told me it wasn't possible. Then I came here and asked and found out they were just simply lieing , the upgrade was possible and I did upgrade the cpu. __________________ Gpu Benchmarks Cpu-Z Power supply information and selection Gpu-Z Video card quick list

01-17-2009, 02:30 PM	#13 (permalink)
arej00dazed Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 70 OS: winXP Pro SP2	Re: Need an AGP card well shoot, how do I find out for sure? will that link you sent me tell me? I can't tell if the diagram is for the Dell F'd up version or type ATX PSU. At least I supposedly have a SATA connection on the board, that'll solve my HD dilema.

01-18-2009, 01:01 AM	#14 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,784 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	Re: Need an AGP card if your colour wires going into the plug match the the same as the diagram then yours is propriatary if it matches these it is standard atx http://www.smpspowersupply.com/connectors-pinouts.html __________________