Lemonio

which one should is better and more stable
i want one that will perform smoothly at max settings in games like mass effect or fallout 3 at 1440 by 900 or 1650 by 1080
if there is not a huge performance difference i want the more stable and trouble free card
i bought a 3850 that barely worked and i don't want tons of trouble again

emosun

Depends on what type of system you have , one would be more stable then the other depending. Overall in speed I think the gtx would be best but as far as stability goes it depends alot on your motherboard/powersupply.

Lemonio

i am probably going to have an intel core duo 8400, intel p35 motherboard, and 2 gigs of ram

emosun

Which specific p35? Some have ati chipsets and some have nvidia chipsets.

Lemonio

Dual-Core Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E8400 3.00GHz 1333FSB 6MB Cache
Intel® DP35DP - ATX - Intel® P35 Express Chipset
2 x 1GB PC2-6400 800MHz DDR2
Antec NSK4480 - ATX Mid Tower - 380 Watt PS - Black - Silent Design
MSI TurboStream® 600W Power Supply
160GB SATA 7200RPM - 3.5" - Seagate Barracuda® 7200.10
Samsung 22x DVD+/-RW Dual Layer (SATA)
MSI nVidia GeForce 9800GT 512MB GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 (2xDVI)
No RAID - Individual Drive(s)
SATA Power Connector - 6" - 4-pin to 15-pin
Microsoft Value Pack 3.0 Keyboard and Mouse (USB)
Cyber Acoustics 2pc Speaker System
Microsoft Windows XP Home with SP3 (32-bit)
System Assembly and Testing (Desktop)
System Packaging
Extended Three Year Warranty

those are the detailed specs

Jtsou

nVidia chipsets are for if you want to go SLI, and Intel only supports ATi CrossFire

I think.

wrench97

OK you guy are confusing me now

Intel P35 is only a Intel chip set there is no Intel / Nvidia chipset or P35 Nvidia chip set.

I think Lemonio means a single 9800GT that has 2 DVI ports on it (MSI nVidia GeForce 9800GT 512MB GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 (2xDVI)) Not 2x cards.

And Lemonio up your Ram to 3 or 4 gigs usually cheaper to buy 2x2Gig sticks then 2x1Gig and 2x512Meg for 3Gig the extra won't be seen but won't hurt anything either.

Jtsou

Yea thats what i was trying to explain.

Lemonio

i know all that, but what i was asking was which of these cards is better
actually, i'll give you the offered cards at pcsforeveryone for my rig and maybe you'll suggest something else for a similar budget

MSI nVidia GeForce 8400GS 512MB DDR2 PCI Express (1xDVI, 1xVGA)[ -104.00 ]
MSI nVidia GeForce 9400GT 512MB DDR2 PCI Express 2.0 (1xDVI, 1xVGA)[ -74.00 ]
MSI nVidia GeForce 9600GT OC 512MB GDDR3 PCI Express (2xDVI)[ -20.00 ]
MSI nVidia GeForce 9800GT 512MB GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 (2xDVI)
MSI nVidia GeForce 9800GTX Plus OC 512MB GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 (2xDVI)[ 70.00 ]
MSI nVidia GeForce N260GTX OC 896MB GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 (2xDVI)[ 110.00 ]
MSI nVidia GeForce N280GTX OC 1GB GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 (2xDVI)[ 330.00 ]
MSI ATI Radeon HD 3450 256MB GDDR2 PCI Express 2.0 (1xDVI, 1xVGA)[ -104.00 ]
MSI ATI Radeon HD 3870 OC 512MB GDDR4 PCI Express 2.0 (2xDVI)[ 50.00 ]
MSI ATI Radeon HD 4650 512MB GDDR2 PCI Express 2.0 (1xDVI, 1xVGA)[ -70.00 ]
MSI ATI Radeon HD 4850 512MB GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 (2xDVI)[ 60.00 ]
MSI ATI Radeon HD 4870 OC 512MB GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 (2xDVI)[ 170.00 ]
MSI ATI Radeon HD 4870X2 OC 2GB GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 (2xDVI) Delay[ 480.00 ]

and also i thought windows xp could only utilize 2gb of ram?
because i'm going to get xp not vista

wrench97

32 bit XP or Vista will see and report around 3.2Gig but can address the upper areas for system devices.
A lot of the time it depends om the game your playing, the monitor resolution/size the same card that plays Cyris great on a 19" 1280x1024 may not play as well at 1400x900 on a 19" wide screen.
For Vid card comps have a look here> http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/g...v1-02,740.html

Jtsou

Take off the 8400GS, 9400GT, and 9600GT and you have some decent cards.