Lemonio

Pretty recently i was here about getting a new graphics card, and now i'm back, i need a new one. lol
i bought mass effect and it didn't work because my card doesn't support shader 3.0 =[
anyway i need another graphics card that supports shader 3.0.
also how often will the dev's up game requierements
i don't want to buy a graphics card for 100 bucks and buy another one for 100 next year. i have an ATI X850XT
what do you reccomend?

wrench97

Tell us a little about your system.
If OEM(i.e. Dell, HP) brand and model number, if custom Motherboard brand and model, Power supply brand and wattage.

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Lemonio

i typed this out of my computer
Dell Dimension DIM4700
Intel(R) Pentium (R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
2.99 GHz, 1.50 GB of RAM

i replaced my power supply recently but i couldn't find what kind it is. where should i look?

wrench97

There should be a label on the side of the power supply we're looking for total watts and the amps on the 12v rail(s).

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Lemonio

you mean open the computer and look on the side of the power supply?

wrench97

Yes it should look something like this.
http://www.fastlanehw.com/reviews/172/neo_label.jpg

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Lemonio

oh well i found the print out from when i ordered it. it is an ANTEC|TP3-430 430W

wrench97

If you don't want to replace the power supply again I would say a 8600GT or a HD3650 if you prefer ATI any higher is going to require a larger supply and if you game heavy the 430w isn't going to hold up.

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emosun

I have the same psu , you could go with this

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...198&CatId=1826

Same as I got and isn't half bad. Its surprisingly fast for the price and you'll know it'll work with your psu. I wouldn't go any higher tho as far as speed. And stick to pci-e 1.0 cards , I'm pretty sure 2.0 won't work in that. Your lucky its only 70$ after rebate , mine was 180$ last year. lol

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joytime360

That sounds like a good choice for you.

Lemonio

does this card support shader 3.0? because that's what i need.
and also could you give me some equivalent cards from other ati and nvidia series?
i couldn't find this one on graphics card rankings

emosun

Yes it supports sm 3.0 and 4.0. And its eqivalent would be an 8600 from nvidia tho I think its faster.

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Lemonio

what do you think about the 7950GT?

emosun

Well , its a little faster. But doesn't support dx10 , and won't work with your power supply.

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Lemonio

oh and what about the 8600GT or HD3650 that wrench reccomended

Lemonio

oh also a person on another forum said that pci 2.0 cards did work with pci 1.0 ports or something
and they reccomended a 9600GT
they also said it draws less power than the x850xt

wrench97

9600gt is a PCIEx16 2.0 card is only a problem on some VIA chipset.
8600GT is not, both cards I posted are DX 10 I prefer the 8600 over the 3650
I'm pretty sure the 9600 does not use less power than a x850.

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emosun

Lol , the 9600 uses alot more power then a x850. That would need a 500w or higher.

The only reason I'm agaisnt a 8600 is because its a little more expensive and not quite as fast as a 2600. Thats why I bought the 2600 last year. Higher clock speeds and more stream processors. However the 8600 isn't a bad card and you could with with it if you prefer nvidia.

And I think the 3650 is 2.0. And I think you would be safer going with a 1.0 card. Plus a 3650 is litterally a 2600 with a 3650 badge. They are almost identical.

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Lemonio

i think you convinced me
here is the thread btw
http://forums.videogamereview.com/sh...ad.php?t=11195

emosun