GFX Card or a new Motherboard/Processor

Gamer383 · 01-21-2008, 03:06 PM

New to the forum so forgive me if i leave anything out.
Iv had my comp for about 4/5 years and its time to update

Update as in the on-line MMORPG i play don't look as good as MapleStory does on the lowest setting

I just want some advice on what i should be changing (the whole thing or just the GFX Card) or even both, seeing as i have a integrated card which is crap now

Iv not done alot of research on Cards and last time i looked in the case was to insert another 256RAM, so i cant tell you what slots i have. (till this saturday, ill take a few pics and upload if needed)

I saw somewhere that Everest gives a good summery so ill attach a file showing it..

HTML SUMMERY-download

**emosun** · 01-22-2008, 12:11 PM

Just to inform everyone you have a

emachines pc
socket 478 with a celeron 1.8ghz
512mb of ddr ram / 2x 256mb
integrated video
And 3 regular pci slots / 1 occupied

You can upgrade the pc but not by much. The maximum memory you could have is probly 768mb to 1 gb. You dont have a agp or pci-e slot so you video card options are pretty limited. Also the cpu should also be upgraded but I'm not sure it would go much faster anyway. I would say if you can afford it you should get a all new pc. We can help you pick one out based on your budget. But if you don't want to get a new pc and just want to max this out we can also help. Please let us know your buget range and we'll see what we can do.

Gamer383 · 01-23-2008, 03:53 AM

Id like to get a new PC or modify my current one but i dont know if my budget will stretch

Im willing to spend £150-200 on modifying it

What would this pc run like if it was maxed to the limit?

**emosun** · 01-23-2008, 10:38 AM

I would imagine the limit of the pc would be like a 2.6ghz p4 with maybe a gig of ram and with the best pci videocard, it wouldn't run to much different then it does now.

I checked and 200 euro's is about 291 dollors so I think what we can do is upgrade all the barebone parts on it, meaning new motherboard, cpu, ram, that sort of thing. Your current mobo setup I imagine wouldn't be very fast even if we maxed it out so simply upgrading all the main guts would be better. You would keep the same case with the same hdd and cd drive and maybe the same psu.

**emosun** · 01-23-2008, 11:03 AM

What I would like to know is if the case has a removable i/o sheild on the back, if it doesn't you probly couldn't use the case either.

Gamer383 · 01-23-2008, 04:25 PM

I/O?

i know that i can remove the side panel, but anything else ill have to check it.
Is the whole I/O back panel, or just a little part that slides away?

**1 g0t 0wn3d** · 01-23-2008, 04:31 PM

its the whole part where all of your ports are coming from (mouse, printer and such)

**emosun** · 01-23-2008, 04:31 PM

this is what an i/o sheild is

http://www.intel.com/support/motherb...g/ioshield.gif

its the peice of metal that goes arround the ports to make the case more air tight. need to know if yours is removeable like in the pic or just solid and built into the case.

Gamer383 · 01-24-2008, 10:51 AM

I guess its remove able...theres screws at the sides but nothing blocking it at the bottom so i guess thats for it to slide out

**emosun** · 01-24-2008, 12:16 PM

You seem to have taken a picture of your power supply. This is an i/o shield

http://estore.asus.com/images/13-020010430.jpg

See where it goes on your case?

http://www.mysuperpc.com/build/epox_..._installed.jpg

We need to know if yours is removable or if its a solid part of the case. Btw if this sounds to complicated to change the whole board out and all we could just add some more ram and a maybe a faster cpu.

Gamer383 · 01-25-2008, 08:17 AM

ohhh right..ill check that out now
all the wires are connected but ill see what its like

Gamer383 · 01-25-2008, 08:52 AM

ok took some pics
looks glues on or something but might be bale to pop it out using a flat head screwdriver
but i wont do anything yet

**emosun** · 01-25-2008, 12:05 PM

Yup it is remove able which means you can keep the case. I'm guessing if it has 3 pci slots its a mini or micro atx form factor, meaning just a really short case. So for about 200 eruo's (about 300$) we should be able to find a motherboard, cpu, ram, and psu. The things that will stay in the case will be the hdd and cd drive. note that your copy of windows might not work on the aftermarket motherbord which means you would reinstall windows just using a regular xp cd.

Gamer383 · 01-27-2008, 02:08 PM

oh cool :D
so what do you suggest..i also use the comp for typing up stuff not alot of phtoshop kind of things

**emosun** · 01-27-2008, 03:07 PM

Probly a core two duo or pentium d . Board that supports at least 4 gigs of ram . Not sure if you want to try to get a video card in there too. And something like a antec psu.

Gamer383 · 01-28-2008, 02:18 AM

how much would that cost?
yes id like a video card

**emosun** · 01-28-2008, 05:54 AM

motherboard
http://www.europc.co.uk/pages/Produc...aspx?PID=94188

cpu pentium d 2.2ghz
http://www.europc.co.uk/pages/Produc...spx?PID=103044

ram ddr2 667mhz 2gb
http://www.europc.co.uk/pages/Produc...aspx?PID=17130

psu antec trio 430w
http://www.europc.co.uk/pages/Produc...aspx?PID=78559

video card radeon 2600xt
http://www.europc.co.uk/pages/Produc...aspx?PID=90348

Its all comes out to about 207. But I could not find a heatsink on that website (its the only website i could find in the uk) so you might have to shop around ebay or somewhere for a socket 775 heatsink. I made sure the motherboard supported 4 gb of ram and its also supports faster processors. I assumed your budget was 200 so I tried to find the best I could of everthing for close to that.

Gamer383 · 01-29-2008, 11:08 AM

I found this on eBay but its not a 2.2GHz
would this work out?

Retail-Boxed CPU: Socket 775 2.20GHz 800MHz FSB 1MB Cache w/ Heatsink and Fan included, Three Years Warranty

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Intel-Pentium-Dual-Core-E2200-CPU-Fan-Motherboard-COMBO_W0QQitemZ200194789978QQihZ010QQcategoryZ129317QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p1638.m122
For about £50

**FreoHeaveho** · 01-29-2008, 02:55 PM

£200 is $400.

**emosun** · 01-29-2008, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigfellla

£200 is $400.

The converter I used must be out of date. Well I still picked parts that equaled 200. As for you link gamer , they dont provide the name of the motherboard so i wouldnt really trust it.

01-22-2008, 12:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
emosun Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: usa Posts: 7,088 OS: xp pro sp2 My System	Re: GFX Card or a new Motherboard/Processor Just to inform everyone you have a emachines pc socket 478 with a celeron 1.8ghz 512mb of ddr ram / 2x 256mb integrated video And 3 regular pci slots / 1 occupied You can upgrade the pc but not by much. The maximum memory you could have is probly 768mb to 1 gb. You dont have a agp or pci-e slot so you video card options are pretty limited. Also the cpu should also be upgraded but I'm not sure it would go much faster anyway. I would say if you can afford it you should get a all new pc. We can help you pick one out based on your budget. But if you don't want to get a new pc and just want to max this out we can also help. Please let us know your buget range and we'll see what we can do. __________________ Gpu Benchmarks Cpu-Z Power supply information and selection Gpu-Z Video card quick list Last edited by emosun; 01-22-2008 at 12:15 PM.

01-23-2008, 03:53 AM	#3 (permalink)
Gamer383 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 77 OS: XP pro SP2	Re: GFX Card or a new Motherboard/Processor Id like to get a new PC or modify my current one but i dont know if my budget will stretch Im willing to spend £150-200 on modifying it What would this pc run like if it was maxed to the limit?

01-23-2008, 10:38 AM	#4 (permalink)
emosun Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: usa Posts: 7,088 OS: xp pro sp2 My System	Re: GFX Card or a new Motherboard/Processor I would imagine the limit of the pc would be like a 2.6ghz p4 with maybe a gig of ram and with the best pci videocard, it wouldn't run to much different then it does now. I checked and 200 euro's is about 291 dollors so I think what we can do is upgrade all the barebone parts on it, meaning new motherboard, cpu, ram, that sort of thing. Your current mobo setup I imagine wouldn't be very fast even if we maxed it out so simply upgrading all the main guts would be better. You would keep the same case with the same hdd and cd drive and maybe the same psu. __________________ Gpu Benchmarks Cpu-Z Power supply information and selection Gpu-Z Video card quick list Last edited by emosun; 01-23-2008 at 10:45 AM.

01-23-2008, 11:03 AM	#5 (permalink)
emosun Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: usa Posts: 7,088 OS: xp pro sp2 My System	Re: GFX Card or a new Motherboard/Processor What I would like to know is if the case has a removable i/o sheild on the back, if it doesn't you probly couldn't use the case either. __________________ Gpu Benchmarks Cpu-Z Power supply information and selection Gpu-Z Video card quick list

01-23-2008, 04:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
Gamer383 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 77 OS: XP pro SP2	Re: GFX Card or a new Motherboard/Processor I/O? i know that i can remove the side panel, but anything else ill have to check it. Is the whole I/O back panel, or just a little part that slides away?

01-23-2008, 04:31 PM	#7 (permalink)
1 g0t 0wn3d TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Sedona, az Posts: 6,528 OS: Vista basic 32bit My System	Re: GFX Card or a new Motherboard/Processor its the whole part where all of your ports are coming from (mouse, printer and such) __________________ Bench Test \| PC Wizard \| System specs \| PSU info \| PSU calculator \| Memtest86+ \| Speedfan

01-23-2008, 04:31 PM	#8 (permalink)
emosun Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: usa Posts: 7,088 OS: xp pro sp2 My System	Re: GFX Card or a new Motherboard/Processor this is what an i/o sheild is http://www.intel.com/support/motherb...g/ioshield.gif its the peice of metal that goes arround the ports to make the case more air tight. need to know if yours is removeable like in the pic or just solid and built into the case. __________________ Gpu Benchmarks Cpu-Z Power supply information and selection Gpu-Z Video card quick list

01-24-2008, 12:16 PM	#10 (permalink)
emosun Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: usa Posts: 7,088 OS: xp pro sp2 My System	Re: GFX Card or a new Motherboard/Processor You seem to have taken a picture of your power supply. This is an i/o shield http://estore.asus.com/images/13-020010430.jpg See where it goes on your case? http://www.mysuperpc.com/build/epox_..._installed.jpg We need to know if yours is removable or if its a solid part of the case. Btw if this sounds to complicated to change the whole board out and all we could just add some more ram and a maybe a faster cpu. __________________ Gpu Benchmarks Cpu-Z Power supply information and selection Gpu-Z Video card quick list

01-25-2008, 08:17 AM	#11 (permalink)
Gamer383 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 77 OS: XP pro SP2	Re: GFX Card or a new Motherboard/Processor ohhh right..ill check that out now all the wires are connected but ill see what its like

01-25-2008, 12:05 PM	#13 (permalink)
emosun Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: usa Posts: 7,088 OS: xp pro sp2 My System	Re: GFX Card or a new Motherboard/Processor Yup it is remove able which means you can keep the case. I'm guessing if it has 3 pci slots its a mini or micro atx form factor, meaning just a really short case. So for about 200 eruo's (about 300$) we should be able to find a motherboard, cpu, ram, and psu. The things that will stay in the case will be the hdd and cd drive. note that your copy of windows might not work on the aftermarket motherbord which means you would reinstall windows just using a regular xp cd. __________________ Gpu Benchmarks Cpu-Z Power supply information and selection Gpu-Z Video card quick list

01-27-2008, 02:08 PM	#14 (permalink)
Gamer383 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 77 OS: XP pro SP2	Re: GFX Card or a new Motherboard/Processor oh cool :D so what do you suggest..i also use the comp for typing up stuff not alot of phtoshop kind of things

01-27-2008, 03:07 PM	#15 (permalink)
emosun Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: usa Posts: 7,088 OS: xp pro sp2 My System	Re: GFX Card or a new Motherboard/Processor Probly a core two duo or pentium d . Board that supports at least 4 gigs of ram . Not sure if you want to try to get a video card in there too. And something like a antec psu. __________________ Gpu Benchmarks Cpu-Z Power supply information and selection Gpu-Z Video card quick list

01-28-2008, 02:18 AM	#16 (permalink)
Gamer383 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 77 OS: XP pro SP2	Re: GFX Card or a new Motherboard/Processor how much would that cost? yes id like a video card

01-28-2008, 05:54 AM	#17 (permalink)
emosun Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: usa Posts: 7,088 OS: xp pro sp2 My System	Re: GFX Card or a new Motherboard/Processor motherboard http://www.europc.co.uk/pages/Produc...aspx?PID=94188 cpu pentium d 2.2ghz http://www.europc.co.uk/pages/Produc...spx?PID=103044 ram ddr2 667mhz 2gb http://www.europc.co.uk/pages/Produc...aspx?PID=17130 psu antec trio 430w http://www.europc.co.uk/pages/Produc...aspx?PID=78559 video card radeon 2600xt http://www.europc.co.uk/pages/Produc...aspx?PID=90348 Its all comes out to about 207. But I could not find a heatsink on that website (its the only website i could find in the uk) so you might have to shop around ebay or somewhere for a socket 775 heatsink. I made sure the motherboard supported 4 gb of ram and its also supports faster processors. I assumed your budget was 200 so I tried to find the best I could of everthing for close to that. __________________ Gpu Benchmarks Cpu-Z Power supply information and selection Gpu-Z Video card quick list Last edited by emosun; 01-28-2008 at 05:56 AM.

01-29-2008, 11:08 AM	#18 (permalink)
Gamer383 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 77 OS: XP pro SP2	Re: GFX Card or a new Motherboard/Processor I found this on eBay but its not a 2.2GHz would this work out? Retail-Boxed CPU: Socket 775 2.20GHz 800MHz FSB 1MB Cache w/ Heatsink and Fan included, Three Years Warranty http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Intel-Pentium-Dual-Core-E2200-CPU-Fan-Motherboard-COMBO_W0QQitemZ200194789978QQihZ010QQcategoryZ129317QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p1638.m122 For about £50

01-29-2008, 02:55 PM	#19 (permalink)
FreoHeaveho TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 3,227 OS: Windows Vista Ultimate 64 SP2, Windows XP Professional SP3, Mac OSX Leopard My System	Re: GFX Card or a new Motherboard/Processor £200 is $400. __________________ PC Wizard-VGA 2009 Charts-Power Supply Info-Multi/Single Rail PSU?-Speedfan-Driver Sweeper