computer slow down

kurtismonger · 12-14-2007, 06:01 PM

I just made some changes to my hardware and my system has slowed to a crawl. I believe its probably related to the video card, but here are all the details.
This system runs XP Pro, AMD 2800+, 3gb ram, lots of hard drives. I had discovered that the fan on my old video card (ATI Radeon 9500 Pro AGP) had failed and while I could use Windows fine, it wouldn't run any games. At the same time I also noticed that the little fan on my Northbridge chip had locked up. So I replaced the Northbridge fan with a Zalman heatsink. I also replaced the video card with a VisionTek ATI Radion HD 2600 XT AGP. In the process I discovered I was out of power connectors so I also upgraded my power supply to a Rocketfish 700w.
So I removed the old ATI drivers, powered down, and installed all the new hardware. When I rebooted the system was definitely slower to boot. Installing the drivers that came with the new vid card also took forever. Upon reboot the system got even slower. It used to boot in about a minute and now it takes almost 5. Once in windows it is painfully slow.
I don't think its the Northbridge. I don't really know what it does, but since it had no cooling for months, I can't imaging adding a heat sink did anything.
I also don't think its the new power supply. I would assume if everything powers up then it should work fine.
So that leaves the video card. I uninstalled the drivers from the Cd and downloaded fresh ones from Visiontek that were recently updated. Installing the new driver has taken over an hour and its still not done.
Any suggestions on troubleshooting?

**emosun** · 12-14-2007, 06:38 PM

Those agp 2600's are known to have issuses, which is why I got the pci-e version instead. Does the pc run fine w/o the new 2600 installed? If it does we can eliminate it being anything else in your system. Also check the voltages, download everest or speedfan and post back with the voltages your system is running at.

kurtismonger · 12-15-2007, 12:51 AM

Oh great. Unfortunately my MB only has an AGP slot. I'll try swapping the vid card back. Here are the voltages:
CPU Core 1.67v
+3.3v 3.37v
+5 4.92
+12 ?
+5v standby 5.10v
3v dual 3.31v
North Bridge Core 1.65v
DIMM 2.69v
DIMM VTT 1.36v
AGP VDDQ 1.59v

**emosun** · 12-15-2007, 01:00 AM

Yea i heard they had driver issues with the agp slot and dx10, so i waited a little longer and saved up and got a pci-e board and the 2600.

But we really gotta know what that 12v is running at, try redownloading everest useing this link

http://filehippo.com/download/9a382e...1c92/download/

it should give you a 12v reading under computer , then sensor

kurtismonger · 12-15-2007, 01:16 AM

With the ATI drivers installed the system runs okay once booted, but the boot process takes 5-10 minutes. After POST, the windows logo appears and the progress bar goes okay but then gets all hinky. After that the screen goes black for about 5 minutes and then it finishes booting normally.

kurtismonger · 12-15-2007, 01:21 AM

Speedfan tells me the 12v is running at 12.29V to 12.40V

Everest shows 12.26v

kurtismonger · 12-15-2007, 01:37 AM

I noticed that my MB chipset manufacturer is NVidea (its a ABit AN7 MB). Wonder if that has any conflict with the ATI video card?

**emosun** · 12-15-2007, 11:57 AM

hmm that could be

martj · 12-29-2007, 03:14 AM

Hi there! I seem to have a similar prolem with Powercolor HD 2600 AGP 512MB. The boot time increased a lot (about 5 minutes) Windows is OK, but a bit slower, and surpisingly the games run well.
But still 5 minutes boot time makes me sad. Any suggestions?

System: Abit IS7-E2, P4 3GHz, 2GB DDR

**emosun** · 12-29-2007, 03:19 AM

Welcome to tsf martj . It does seem that this is a problem with these cards and all i could say as of right now is that it may be a flaw with the agp dx10 aspect of the card and that to try to install the latest drivers , or check to see if your motherboard has any bios updates or to request a bios update the the motherboard makers.

martj · 12-29-2007, 03:20 AM

And by the way, does anyone know what the correct AGP voltage is for hd2600. Mine runs at 1.55V. Is it OK?

martj · 12-29-2007, 03:23 AM

The latest ATI package doesn't seem to work with my card. That's curious.

martj · 12-29-2007, 04:08 PM

Thanks for the reply.
I've checked out my 12V and it is actually between 11.80 and 11.90. Do you think a stronger PSU would help?

**emosun** · 12-29-2007, 04:10 PM

Well a stronger psu is recommended but im not sure if it will fix your 5 minute boot problem.

martj · 12-30-2007, 05:33 AM

And what about 1.55V AGP voltage? Do you think it's all right? I found no inditcion in the manual.

**FreoHeaveho** · 12-30-2007, 06:18 AM

Go into the bios and reset the CMOS> THen load default settings. MAKE SURE YOU HAVE DISABLED THE ONBOARD GRAPHICS!!!!

I would then check the apature of the AGP slot to ensure it is right.

Also consider

Updating the mobo bios

12-14-2007, 06:01 PM	#1 (permalink)
kurtismonger Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 83 OS: XP Pro	computer slow down I just made some changes to my hardware and my system has slowed to a crawl. I believe its probably related to the video card, but here are all the details. This system runs XP Pro, AMD 2800+, 3gb ram, lots of hard drives. I had discovered that the fan on my old video card (ATI Radeon 9500 Pro AGP) had failed and while I could use Windows fine, it wouldn't run any games. At the same time I also noticed that the little fan on my Northbridge chip had locked up. So I replaced the Northbridge fan with a Zalman heatsink. I also replaced the video card with a VisionTek ATI Radion HD 2600 XT AGP. In the process I discovered I was out of power connectors so I also upgraded my power supply to a Rocketfish 700w. So I removed the old ATI drivers, powered down, and installed all the new hardware. When I rebooted the system was definitely slower to boot. Installing the drivers that came with the new vid card also took forever. Upon reboot the system got even slower. It used to boot in about a minute and now it takes almost 5. Once in windows it is painfully slow. I don't think its the Northbridge. I don't really know what it does, but since it had no cooling for months, I can't imaging adding a heat sink did anything. I also don't think its the new power supply. I would assume if everything powers up then it should work fine. So that leaves the video card. I uninstalled the drivers from the Cd and downloaded fresh ones from Visiontek that were recently updated. Installing the new driver has taken over an hour and its still not done. Any suggestions on troubleshooting?

12-14-2007, 06:38 PM	#2 (permalink)
emosun Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: usa Posts: 6,958 OS: xp pro sp2 My System	Re: computer slow down Those agp 2600's are known to have issuses, which is why I got the pci-e version instead. Does the pc run fine w/o the new 2600 installed? If it does we can eliminate it being anything else in your system. Also check the voltages, download everest or speedfan and post back with the voltages your system is running at. __________________ Gpu Benchmarks Cpu-Z Power supply information and selection Gpu-Z Video card quick list

12-15-2007, 12:51 AM	#3 (permalink)
kurtismonger Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 83 OS: XP Pro	Re: computer slow down Oh great. Unfortunately my MB only has an AGP slot. I'll try swapping the vid card back. Here are the voltages: CPU Core 1.67v +3.3v 3.37v +5 4.92 +12 ? +5v standby 5.10v 3v dual 3.31v North Bridge Core 1.65v DIMM 2.69v DIMM VTT 1.36v AGP VDDQ 1.59v

12-15-2007, 01:00 AM	#4 (permalink)
emosun Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: usa Posts: 6,958 OS: xp pro sp2 My System	Re: computer slow down Yea i heard they had driver issues with the agp slot and dx10, so i waited a little longer and saved up and got a pci-e board and the 2600. But we really gotta know what that 12v is running at, try redownloading everest useing this link http://filehippo.com/download/9a382e...1c92/download/ it should give you a 12v reading under computer , then sensor __________________ Gpu Benchmarks Cpu-Z Power supply information and selection Gpu-Z Video card quick list

12-15-2007, 01:16 AM	#5 (permalink)
kurtismonger Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 83 OS: XP Pro	Re: computer slow down With the ATI drivers installed the system runs okay once booted, but the boot process takes 5-10 minutes. After POST, the windows logo appears and the progress bar goes okay but then gets all hinky. After that the screen goes black for about 5 minutes and then it finishes booting normally.

12-15-2007, 01:21 AM	#6 (permalink)
kurtismonger Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 83 OS: XP Pro	Re: computer slow down Speedfan tells me the 12v is running at 12.29V to 12.40V Everest shows 12.26v Last edited by kurtismonger; 12-15-2007 at 01:46 AM.

12-15-2007, 01:37 AM	#7 (permalink)
kurtismonger Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 83 OS: XP Pro	Re: computer slow down I noticed that my MB chipset manufacturer is NVidea (its a ABit AN7 MB). Wonder if that has any conflict with the ATI video card?

12-15-2007, 11:57 AM	#8 (permalink)
emosun Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: usa Posts: 6,958 OS: xp pro sp2 My System	Re: computer slow down hmm that could be __________________ Gpu Benchmarks Cpu-Z Power supply information and selection Gpu-Z Video card quick list

12-29-2007, 03:14 AM	#9 (permalink)
martj Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 5 OS: XP Pro	Re: computer slow down Hi there! I seem to have a similar prolem with Powercolor HD 2600 AGP 512MB. The boot time increased a lot (about 5 minutes) Windows is OK, but a bit slower, and surpisingly the games run well. But still 5 minutes boot time makes me sad. Any suggestions? System: Abit IS7-E2, P4 3GHz, 2GB DDR

12-29-2007, 03:19 AM	#10 (permalink)
emosun Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: usa Posts: 6,958 OS: xp pro sp2 My System	Re: computer slow down Welcome to tsf martj . It does seem that this is a problem with these cards and all i could say as of right now is that it may be a flaw with the agp dx10 aspect of the card and that to try to install the latest drivers , or check to see if your motherboard has any bios updates or to request a bios update the the motherboard makers. __________________ Gpu Benchmarks Cpu-Z Power supply information and selection Gpu-Z Video card quick list

12-29-2007, 03:20 AM	#11 (permalink)
martj Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 5 OS: XP Pro	Re: computer slow down And by the way, does anyone know what the correct AGP voltage is for hd2600. Mine runs at 1.55V. Is it OK?

12-29-2007, 03:23 AM	#12 (permalink)
martj Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 5 OS: XP Pro	Re: computer slow down The latest ATI package doesn't seem to work with my card. That's curious.

12-29-2007, 04:08 PM	#13 (permalink)
martj Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 5 OS: XP Pro	Re: computer slow down Thanks for the reply. I've checked out my 12V and it is actually between 11.80 and 11.90. Do you think a stronger PSU would help?

12-29-2007, 04:10 PM	#14 (permalink)
emosun Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: usa Posts: 6,958 OS: xp pro sp2 My System	Re: computer slow down Well a stronger psu is recommended but im not sure if it will fix your 5 minute boot problem. __________________ Gpu Benchmarks Cpu-Z Power supply information and selection Gpu-Z Video card quick list

12-30-2007, 05:33 AM	#15 (permalink)
martj Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 5 OS: XP Pro	Re: computer slow down And what about 1.55V AGP voltage? Do you think it's all right? I found no inditcion in the manual.

12-30-2007, 06:18 AM	#16 (permalink)
FreoHeaveho TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 3,213 OS: Windows Vista Ultimate 64 SP2, Windows XP Professional SP3, Mac OSX Leopard My System	Re: computer slow down Go into the bios and reset the CMOS> THen load default settings. MAKE SURE YOU HAVE DISABLED THE ONBOARD GRAPHICS!!!! I would then check the apature of the AGP slot to ensure it is right. Also consider Updating the mobo bios __________________ PC Wizard-VGA 2009 Charts-Power Supply Info-Multi/Single Rail PSU?-Speedfan-Driver Sweeper