Too Hot!

Antec 900 · 11-16-2007, 04:13 PM

High everyone

While playing cod 4 i get about half an hour into the game and suddenly my pc just decides to shut down, like as if my video card is too hot and shuts down like in an emergency so it doesnt fry, but ive read in one topic that most cards can take up to 90c standard. I have a x1950xtx ati 3d connect 512 ggdr4, that is on 75c on full load. Is this the problem or is it my processor, my processors is around 42c. I have played for up to 2 hours on multiplayer and that works fine, its just singleplayer gameplay.

In the bios, its got something like overheating shutdown on the processor but that has been disabled, i havent seen anything for the video card.

Hope ya can help me out, or advise on a good video cooler, thanks.

geek73 · 11-16-2007, 04:32 PM

Howdy Antec9000

42c is not hot at all.. And 75c for a video card is a little on the high side. As those can get even higher...

I would suggest getting like a 120mm fan (just a regualr case fan) and putting it right on the card. What I did unless you want to spend some money on somthing like this (also what I bought) it supports our cards. And will bring that 75c down to around 35c..

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835116017

Antec 900 · 11-17-2007, 06:50 AM

Hi Geek73, Thanks for that, i will invest and buy one, and at that price i dont think u can go wrong!

Thanks Again

**FreoHeaveho** · 11-21-2007, 03:13 PM

NO, no! I very much doubt it is temperature related. I would very much be suspicious of your power supply unit. Are you overclocking any of your components? Download PC Wizard from here http://www.cpuid.com/download/pcw2008_v180.exe and post you key specifications as well.

Tumbleweed36 · 11-21-2007, 03:53 PM

I too suspect the power supply with the temps you have listed. When you run the program that bigfella gave you, then we will know more about the components and be better able to judge.

Be sure to list the make and wattage of that power supply and while you are at it, look on the side of the PSU and list the amps per rail for the +12 rail.

Antec 900 · 11-22-2007, 02:45 PM

Hey Bigfella & tumbleweed!

Downloaded, pcw2008, but i dont know what to load up on here, what do you need to find out? What should i post?

Am i overclocking any of my components?

I tried to overclock my processor about 3 weeks ago on a water cooler (Big Water 735) but i didnt succeed so it reset itself and i havent tried since.

I have the following here, dont know if ive sent the right ones though! Thanks guys!

Antec 900 · 11-22-2007, 03:13 PM

Hey Bigfella & tumbleweed!

Downloaded, pcw2008, but i dont know what to load up on here, what do you need to find out? What should i post?

Am i overclocking any of my components?

I tried to overclock my processor about 3 weeks ago on a water cooler (Big Water 735) but i didnt succeed so it reset itself and i havent tried since.

I have the following here, dont know if ive sent the right ones though! Thanks guys!

Hope it helps thanks guys!!

**FreoHeaveho** · 11-22-2007, 03:51 PM

Ok thanks. Open your box, and post what PSU you have. We are intersted in the manufacturer, model, wattage and anything else you can see. Also, while you are there is there a dust problem?

Antec 900 · 11-23-2007, 05:22 AM

I had a good clear out of the dust on the video card the other week, not much there, is a can of pressurised air any good?

It says:

ATX-700TW

Input Characteristics
Voltage - 100-240Vac
Frequency - 50-60Hz
Input Current - 10A

Output Characteristics
+3.3V - 24A
+5V - 24A
+12V1 - 16A
+12V2 - 16A
+12V3 - 16A
+12V4 - 16A
-12V - 0.5A
+5Vsb - 3.0A

Total Max Output - 700W

Antec 900 · 11-23-2007, 05:23 AM

P.S. I dont think that zalman sticker is supposed to be there! Thanks

**FreoHeaveho** · 11-23-2007, 01:33 PM

Thanks dude. It helps when someone provides good details! BUT, i am not sure what is going on actually. One thing i would say is upate directx here http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

I am not sure about that PSU to be honest. I will ask a few guys to have a look.

**linderman** · 11-23-2007, 01:55 PM

any good high quality 700 watt PSU is going to have more amps on the 12volt rails than 16 !

whats the brand name ? or link where you bought it

**FreoHeaveho** · 11-23-2007, 04:24 PM

Thanks Linderman. Antec can you borrow a better PSU to see if that stops the restarts? I still think the PSU is the problem.

**Doby** · 11-23-2007, 05:51 PM

PC wizard reports the +12V at 11.07, I would double check that read in bios or better yet with a volt meter but I think its time for a good quality psu

Tumbleweed36 · 11-23-2007, 06:04 PM

Doby hit the nail on the head. The +12v rail is way below specs and would not permit a computer to operate properly if the voltage as give at 11.1 on that rail is correct. We do need the brand name of the PSU you have and check as suggested by my team mate Doby.

**FreoHeaveho** · 11-23-2007, 06:25 PM

what is this football?

Tumbleweed36 · 11-23-2007, 06:38 PM

Yep, sure is and now the ball is in your hands. Run for the end zone Bigfellla and score one for your team.

**FreoHeaveho** · 11-23-2007, 06:53 PM

touchdown - edit, kick from the 50 meter straight through the posts on the siren.

Antec 900 · 11-24-2007, 08:14 AM

Thanks on the feed back guys, much appreciated thanks.

This PSU of mine is only say 6 months old and cost me roughly 80 pounds, i thought for a price like that it must be good, but thats not always the case. LOL

Im gona get my step-dad's voltage meter and test it see what it says ill let him do it he's a qualified sparks for 20 years or so... Anyways ill try the BIOS and see what the both reading weigh out as!

As from where i got it, It was from a place called 'MAPLIN ELECTRONICS', ill try dig out the info from site and post it.

Thanks again guys!

P.S. I wouldnt know where to try the voltage on a 12v rail, would that be the 4pin connector??

Antec 900 · 11-24-2007, 08:17 AM

Found the link, hope it works your end, thanks!

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Search.aspx?...source=15&SD=Y

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http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?...ower&doy=24m11

11-16-2007, 04:13 PM	#1 (permalink)
Antec 900 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: England Posts: 67 OS: Vista 64 Home Premium	Too Hot! High everyone While playing cod 4 i get about half an hour into the game and suddenly my pc just decides to shut down, like as if my video card is too hot and shuts down like in an emergency so it doesnt fry, but ive read in one topic that most cards can take up to 90c standard. I have a x1950xtx ati 3d connect 512 ggdr4, that is on 75c on full load. Is this the problem or is it my processor, my processors is around 42c. I have played for up to 2 hours on multiplayer and that works fine, its just singleplayer gameplay. In the bios, its got something like overheating shutdown on the processor but that has been disabled, i havent seen anything for the video card. Hope ya can help me out, or advise on a good video cooler, thanks.

11-16-2007, 04:32 PM	#2 (permalink)
geek73 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 694 OS: SuSe Linux My System	Re: Too Hot! Howdy Antec9000 42c is not hot at all.. And 75c for a video card is a little on the high side. As those can get even higher... I would suggest getting like a 120mm fan (just a regualr case fan) and putting it right on the card. What I did unless you want to spend some money on somthing like this (also what I bought) it supports our cards. And will bring that 75c down to around 35c.. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835116017 __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

11-17-2007, 06:50 AM	#3 (permalink)
Antec 900 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: England Posts: 67 OS: Vista 64 Home Premium	Re: Too Hot! Hi Geek73, Thanks for that, i will invest and buy one, and at that price i dont think u can go wrong! Thanks Again

11-21-2007, 03:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
FreoHeaveho TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 3,227 OS: Windows Vista Ultimate 64 SP2, Windows XP Professional SP3, Mac OSX Leopard My System	Re: Too Hot! NO, no! I very much doubt it is temperature related. I would very much be suspicious of your power supply unit. Are you overclocking any of your components? Download PC Wizard from here http://www.cpuid.com/download/pcw2008_v180.exe and post you key specifications as well. __________________ PC Wizard-VGA 2009 Charts-Power Supply Info-Multi/Single Rail PSU?-Speedfan-Driver Sweeper

11-21-2007, 03:53 PM	#5 (permalink)
Tumbleweed36 Asst Manager Hardware Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 19,707 OS: XP Professional	Re: Too Hot! I too suspect the power supply with the temps you have listed. When you run the program that bigfella gave you, then we will know more about the components and be better able to judge. Be sure to list the make and wattage of that power supply and while you are at it, look on the side of the PSU and list the amps per rail for the +12 rail. __________________ ---------- I don't receive email notifications of replies to subscribed threads. (Internet provider policy) Therefore, if I don't respond to your post within 24 hours, please send me a reminder PM and include the link to your thread.

11-22-2007, 02:45 PM	#6 (permalink)
Antec 900 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: England Posts: 67 OS: Vista 64 Home Premium	Re: Too Hot! Hey Bigfella & tumbleweed! Downloaded, pcw2008, but i dont know what to load up on here, what do you need to find out? What should i post? Am i overclocking any of my components? I tried to overclock my processor about 3 weeks ago on a water cooler (Big Water 735) but i didnt succeed so it reset itself and i havent tried since. I have the following here, dont know if ive sent the right ones though! Thanks guys!

11-22-2007, 03:13 PM	#7 (permalink)
Antec 900 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: England Posts: 67 OS: Vista 64 Home Premium	Re: Too Hot! Hey Bigfella & tumbleweed! Downloaded, pcw2008, but i dont know what to load up on here, what do you need to find out? What should i post? Am i overclocking any of my components? I tried to overclock my processor about 3 weeks ago on a water cooler (Big Water 735) but i didnt succeed so it reset itself and i havent tried since. I have the following here, dont know if ive sent the right ones though! Thanks guys! Hope it helps thanks guys!!

11-22-2007, 03:51 PM	#8 (permalink)
FreoHeaveho TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 3,227 OS: Windows Vista Ultimate 64 SP2, Windows XP Professional SP3, Mac OSX Leopard My System	Re: Too Hot! Ok thanks. Open your box, and post what PSU you have. We are intersted in the manufacturer, model, wattage and anything else you can see. Also, while you are there is there a dust problem? __________________ PC Wizard-VGA 2009 Charts-Power Supply Info-Multi/Single Rail PSU?-Speedfan-Driver Sweeper

11-23-2007, 05:22 AM	#9 (permalink)
Antec 900 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: England Posts: 67 OS: Vista 64 Home Premium	Re: Too Hot! I had a good clear out of the dust on the video card the other week, not much there, is a can of pressurised air any good? It says: ATX-700TW Input Characteristics Voltage - 100-240Vac Frequency - 50-60Hz Input Current - 10A Output Characteristics +3.3V - 24A +5V - 24A +12V1 - 16A +12V2 - 16A +12V3 - 16A +12V4 - 16A -12V - 0.5A +5Vsb - 3.0A Total Max Output - 700W

11-23-2007, 05:23 AM	#10 (permalink)
Antec 900 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: England Posts: 67 OS: Vista 64 Home Premium	Re: Too Hot! P.S. I dont think that zalman sticker is supposed to be there! Thanks

11-23-2007, 01:33 PM	#11 (permalink)
FreoHeaveho TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 3,227 OS: Windows Vista Ultimate 64 SP2, Windows XP Professional SP3, Mac OSX Leopard My System	Re: Too Hot! Thanks dude. It helps when someone provides good details! BUT, i am not sure what is going on actually. One thing i would say is upate directx here http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en I am not sure about that PSU to be honest. I will ask a few guys to have a look. __________________ PC Wizard-VGA 2009 Charts-Power Supply Info-Multi/Single Rail PSU?-Speedfan-Driver Sweeper

11-23-2007, 01:55 PM	#12 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 20,442 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Re: Too Hot! any good high quality 700 watt PSU is going to have more amps on the 12volt rails than 16 ! whats the brand name ? or link where you bought it __________________ I still know nothing and I respect that fact, striving to improve and, along the way, help anyone that comes from the place that I used to be! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial

11-23-2007, 04:24 PM	#13 (permalink)
FreoHeaveho TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 3,227 OS: Windows Vista Ultimate 64 SP2, Windows XP Professional SP3, Mac OSX Leopard My System	Re: Too Hot! Thanks Linderman. Antec can you borrow a better PSU to see if that stops the restarts? I still think the PSU is the problem. __________________ PC Wizard-VGA 2009 Charts-Power Supply Info-Multi/Single Rail PSU?-Speedfan-Driver Sweeper

11-23-2007, 05:51 PM	#14 (permalink)
Doby Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Central PA (USA) Posts: 8,111 OS: XP sp2/ Vista My System	Re: Too Hot! PC wizard reports the +12V at 11.07, I would double check that read in bios or better yet with a volt meter but I think its time for a good quality psu __________________ Would you like to help TSF fight cancer and other diseases??? JOIN TEAM TSF

11-23-2007, 06:04 PM	#15 (permalink)
Tumbleweed36 Asst Manager Hardware Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 19,707 OS: XP Professional	Re: Too Hot! Doby hit the nail on the head. The +12v rail is way below specs and would not permit a computer to operate properly if the voltage as give at 11.1 on that rail is correct. We do need the brand name of the PSU you have and check as suggested by my team mate Doby. __________________ ---------- I don't receive email notifications of replies to subscribed threads. (Internet provider policy) Therefore, if I don't respond to your post within 24 hours, please send me a reminder PM and include the link to your thread.

11-23-2007, 06:25 PM	#16 (permalink)
FreoHeaveho TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 3,227 OS: Windows Vista Ultimate 64 SP2, Windows XP Professional SP3, Mac OSX Leopard My System	Re: Too Hot! what is this football? __________________ PC Wizard-VGA 2009 Charts-Power Supply Info-Multi/Single Rail PSU?-Speedfan-Driver Sweeper

11-23-2007, 06:38 PM	#17 (permalink)
Tumbleweed36 Asst Manager Hardware Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 19,707 OS: XP Professional	Re: Too Hot! Yep, sure is and now the ball is in your hands. Run for the end zone Bigfellla and score one for your team. __________________ ---------- I don't receive email notifications of replies to subscribed threads. (Internet provider policy) Therefore, if I don't respond to your post within 24 hours, please send me a reminder PM and include the link to your thread.

11-23-2007, 06:53 PM	#18 (permalink)
FreoHeaveho TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 3,227 OS: Windows Vista Ultimate 64 SP2, Windows XP Professional SP3, Mac OSX Leopard My System	Re: Too Hot! touchdown - edit, kick from the 50 meter straight through the posts on the siren. __________________ PC Wizard-VGA 2009 Charts-Power Supply Info-Multi/Single Rail PSU?-Speedfan-Driver Sweeper Last edited by FreoHeaveho; 11-23-2007 at 07:00 PM.

11-24-2007, 08:14 AM	#19 (permalink)
Antec 900 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: England Posts: 67 OS: Vista 64 Home Premium	Re: Too Hot! Thanks on the feed back guys, much appreciated thanks. This PSU of mine is only say 6 months old and cost me roughly 80 pounds, i thought for a price like that it must be good, but thats not always the case. LOL Im gona get my step-dad's voltage meter and test it see what it says ill let him do it he's a qualified sparks for 20 years or so... Anyways ill try the BIOS and see what the both reading weigh out as! As from where i got it, It was from a place called 'MAPLIN ELECTRONICS', ill try dig out the info from site and post it. Thanks again guys! P.S. I wouldnt know where to try the voltage on a 12v rail, would that be the 4pin connector??

11-24-2007, 08:17 AM	#20 (permalink)
Antec 900 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: England Posts: 67 OS: Vista 64 Home Premium	Re: Too Hot! Found the link, hope it works your end, thanks! http://www.maplin.co.uk/Search.aspx?...source=15&SD=Y & http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?...ower&doy=24m11