Video card upgrade becomes downgrade.

Master-of-Doom · 09-07-2007, 08:35 PM

I just upgraded from a 7600GT KO 256mb card to a X1950XT 512mb card and all my games look the same but my fps is about 1/2 of what I got on my 7600GT KO. I am using ATI Catalyst 7.8 drivers. Is there a way to improve what im getting out of the X1950XT?

Specs:
Gecube X1950XT 512mb
2GB DDR SDRAM @400mhz
Amd Athlon X2 4200+ @ 2.2ghz
200GB HD
ThermalTake 430Watt PSU

Master-of-Doom · 09-09-2007, 07:15 PM

Apparently the card I chose has 1400mhz memory clock while most of the other X1950XT cards have 1800mhz memory clock and are cheaper. Should I get one of the 256mb ones with 1800mhz memory clock?

Edit:I also noticed after a while things like stain my screen and wont go away till I move it. Like when browsign through files the back and forward button sometimes get distorted along with other buttons. When I move my mouse over they go back to normal.

Master-of-Doom · 09-10-2007, 04:42 PM

Ok so its either I keep this card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814241063

or refund current card and get this one

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102067

**TheMatt** · 09-10-2007, 04:46 PM

I would start by upgrading the PSU because the one you have is far to weak and may be limiting the cards performance.

Can you provide a link to the card?

Master-of-Doom · 09-10-2007, 05:02 PM

Im pretty sure you meant PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817153023

**TheMatt** · 09-10-2007, 05:09 PM

No I meant card. And you do need a new PSU for sure.

Master-of-Doom · 09-10-2007, 05:13 PM

The X1950XT I currently have.http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814241063

**1 g0t 0wn3d** · 09-10-2007, 05:26 PM

Yeh as stated that psu is far to weak for that card

**TheMatt** · 09-10-2007, 05:27 PM

Do you have another quality 550+w PSU you can try to see if it makes a difference?

Master-of-Doom · 09-10-2007, 05:31 PM

Ill try to see if I can use my friends firebox from his comp if he lets me. Its a cheap 550w but it should work.

**1 g0t 0wn3d** · 09-10-2007, 05:34 PM

it still might not

Master-of-Doom · 09-10-2007, 05:38 PM

Well how much of an increase in performance would I see from the power supply?

**1 g0t 0wn3d** · 09-10-2007, 05:42 PM

we are not sure that is your only issue.... so i cant really tell you what are your temps and voltages?

Master-of-Doom · 09-10-2007, 05:53 PM

+3.3V Voltage : 3.30 V
+5V Voltage : 5.44 V
+12V Voltage : 11.86 V
Processor Temperature : 103.1 °F
Mainboard Temperature : 93.2 °F
Power/Aux Temperature : 113 °F
Hard Disk Temperature ST3200826A : 93.2 °F
Video Card: 38°C Idle ~45-60 °C load depending on what game. Usualy
53°C

**TheMatt** · 09-10-2007, 06:01 PM

Those temps look good (in the future, please use metrics). But your +12v is looking a little low. If those are idle voltages, the load voltages are probably much lower.

You might want to go a store like CompUSA and see how much they charge for a restocking fee. Pick up an Antec Trio 550w (or preferably 650w) and see if it fixes the issue.

Master-of-Doom · 09-10-2007, 06:28 PM

Before I do that what is a better way to connect power to the video card? The 2x3pin adapter or the 6pin?

**TheMatt** · 09-10-2007, 06:51 PM

Both are the same connector if I am understanding you correctly.

Master-of-Doom · 09-11-2007, 02:19 PM

I will probably post my next response in about 2 weeks after I manage to get an Antec Trio 550watt since that seems to be an amazing power supply. Ill post my resuslts after it arrives and hopefully that solves the problem.

**1 g0t 0wn3d** · 09-11-2007, 02:22 PM

Ok if you got it at new egg you should have it in around a week or less.

Master-of-Doom · 09-11-2007, 03:09 PM

I think I am going to get it from Zipzoomfly because its only $90 there with free shipping. Im probably going to buy it next week so feel free to post lower prices.

09-07-2007, 08:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
Master-of-Doom Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 207 OS: XP	Video card upgrade becomes downgrade. I just upgraded from a 7600GT KO 256mb card to a X1950XT 512mb card and all my games look the same but my fps is about 1/2 of what I got on my 7600GT KO. I am using ATI Catalyst 7.8 drivers. Is there a way to improve what im getting out of the X1950XT? Specs: Gecube X1950XT 512mb 2GB DDR SDRAM @400mhz Amd Athlon X2 4200+ @ 2.2ghz 200GB HD ThermalTake 430Watt PSU

09-09-2007, 07:15 PM	#2 (permalink)
Master-of-Doom Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 207 OS: XP	Re: Video card upgrade becomes downgrade. Apparently the card I chose has 1400mhz memory clock while most of the other X1950XT cards have 1800mhz memory clock and are cheaper. Should I get one of the 256mb ones with 1800mhz memory clock? Edit:I also noticed after a while things like stain my screen and wont go away till I move it. Like when browsign through files the back and forward button sometimes get distorted along with other buttons. When I move my mouse over they go back to normal. Last edited by Master-of-Doom; 09-09-2007 at 07:25 PM.

09-10-2007, 04:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
Master-of-Doom Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 207 OS: XP	Re: Video card upgrade becomes downgrade. Ok so its either I keep this card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814241063 or refund current card and get this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102067

09-10-2007, 04:46 PM	#4 (permalink)
TheMatt TSF Enthusiast Join Date: May 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 13,701 OS: Win 3.1, 98, NT 4.0, XP Debian 4.0, Kubuntu 6.06 My System Blog Entries: 3	Re: Video card upgrade becomes downgrade. I would start by upgrading the PSU because the one you have is far to weak and may be limiting the cards performance. Can you provide a link to the card? __________________ - Matt M - KB1OSC - Folding@Home 85015 [url="http://www.techsupportforum.com/hardware-support/"] If TSF has helped you, please consider donating. If I have stopped responding to a thread, feel free to send me a PM with a link to the thread. It is advisable to subscribe to threads so you will receive updates when replies are posted. You can subscribe to threads from the "Thread Tools" Menu. »Memtest86 »Prime95 »UBCD »SpeedFan »NHC Personal »Everest »Sandra »PC Wizard »RivaTuner »ATi Tool Click here for Useful Articles and Guides

09-10-2007, 05:02 PM	#5 (permalink)
Master-of-Doom Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 207 OS: XP	Re: Video card upgrade becomes downgrade. Im pretty sure you meant PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817153023

09-10-2007, 05:09 PM	#6 (permalink)
TheMatt TSF Enthusiast Join Date: May 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 13,701 OS: Win 3.1, 98, NT 4.0, XP Debian 4.0, Kubuntu 6.06 My System Blog Entries: 3	Re: Video card upgrade becomes downgrade. No I meant card. And you do need a new PSU for sure. __________________ - Matt M - KB1OSC - Folding@Home 85015 [url="http://www.techsupportforum.com/hardware-support/"] If TSF has helped you, please consider donating. If I have stopped responding to a thread, feel free to send me a PM with a link to the thread. It is advisable to subscribe to threads so you will receive updates when replies are posted. You can subscribe to threads from the "Thread Tools" Menu. »Memtest86 »Prime95 »UBCD »SpeedFan »NHC Personal »Everest »Sandra »PC Wizard »RivaTuner »ATi Tool Click here for Useful Articles and Guides

09-10-2007, 05:13 PM	#7 (permalink)
Master-of-Doom Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 207 OS: XP	Re: Video card upgrade becomes downgrade. The X1950XT I currently have.http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814241063

09-10-2007, 05:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
1 g0t 0wn3d TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Sedona, az Posts: 6,528 OS: Vista basic 32bit My System	Re: Video card upgrade becomes downgrade. Yeh as stated that psu is far to weak for that card __________________ Bench Test \| PC Wizard \| System specs \| PSU info \| PSU calculator \| Memtest86+ \| Speedfan

09-10-2007, 05:27 PM	#9 (permalink)
TheMatt TSF Enthusiast Join Date: May 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 13,701 OS: Win 3.1, 98, NT 4.0, XP Debian 4.0, Kubuntu 6.06 My System Blog Entries: 3	Re: Video card upgrade becomes downgrade. Do you have another quality 550+w PSU you can try to see if it makes a difference? __________________ - Matt M - KB1OSC - Folding@Home 85015 [url="http://www.techsupportforum.com/hardware-support/"] If TSF has helped you, please consider donating. If I have stopped responding to a thread, feel free to send me a PM with a link to the thread. It is advisable to subscribe to threads so you will receive updates when replies are posted. You can subscribe to threads from the "Thread Tools" Menu. »Memtest86 »Prime95 »UBCD »SpeedFan »NHC Personal »Everest »Sandra »PC Wizard »RivaTuner »ATi Tool Click here for Useful Articles and Guides

09-10-2007, 05:31 PM	#10 (permalink)
Master-of-Doom Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 207 OS: XP	Re: Video card upgrade becomes downgrade. Ill try to see if I can use my friends firebox from his comp if he lets me. Its a cheap 550w but it should work.

09-10-2007, 05:34 PM	#11 (permalink)
1 g0t 0wn3d TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Sedona, az Posts: 6,528 OS: Vista basic 32bit My System	Re: Video card upgrade becomes downgrade. it still might not __________________ Bench Test \| PC Wizard \| System specs \| PSU info \| PSU calculator \| Memtest86+ \| Speedfan

09-10-2007, 05:38 PM	#12 (permalink)
Master-of-Doom Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 207 OS: XP	Re: Video card upgrade becomes downgrade. Well how much of an increase in performance would I see from the power supply?

09-10-2007, 05:42 PM	#13 (permalink)
1 g0t 0wn3d TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Sedona, az Posts: 6,528 OS: Vista basic 32bit My System	Re: Video card upgrade becomes downgrade. we are not sure that is your only issue.... so i cant really tell you what are your temps and voltages? __________________ Bench Test \| PC Wizard \| System specs \| PSU info \| PSU calculator \| Memtest86+ \| Speedfan

09-10-2007, 05:53 PM	#14 (permalink)
Master-of-Doom Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 207 OS: XP	Re: Video card upgrade becomes downgrade. +3.3V Voltage : 3.30 V +5V Voltage : 5.44 V +12V Voltage : 11.86 V Processor Temperature : 103.1 °F Mainboard Temperature : 93.2 °F Power/Aux Temperature : 113 °F Hard Disk Temperature ST3200826A : 93.2 °F Video Card: 38°C Idle ~45-60 °C load depending on what game. Usualy 53°C

09-10-2007, 06:01 PM	#15 (permalink)
TheMatt TSF Enthusiast Join Date: May 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 13,701 OS: Win 3.1, 98, NT 4.0, XP Debian 4.0, Kubuntu 6.06 My System Blog Entries: 3	Re: Video card upgrade becomes downgrade. Those temps look good (in the future, please use metrics). But your +12v is looking a little low. If those are idle voltages, the load voltages are probably much lower. You might want to go a store like CompUSA and see how much they charge for a restocking fee. Pick up an Antec Trio 550w (or preferably 650w) and see if it fixes the issue. __________________ - Matt M - KB1OSC - Folding@Home 85015 [url="http://www.techsupportforum.com/hardware-support/"] If TSF has helped you, please consider donating. If I have stopped responding to a thread, feel free to send me a PM with a link to the thread. It is advisable to subscribe to threads so you will receive updates when replies are posted. You can subscribe to threads from the "Thread Tools" Menu. »Memtest86 »Prime95 »UBCD »SpeedFan »NHC Personal »Everest »Sandra »PC Wizard »RivaTuner »ATi Tool Click here for Useful Articles and Guides

09-10-2007, 06:28 PM	#16 (permalink)
Master-of-Doom Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 207 OS: XP	Re: Video card upgrade becomes downgrade. Before I do that what is a better way to connect power to the video card? The 2x3pin adapter or the 6pin?

09-10-2007, 06:51 PM	#17 (permalink)
TheMatt TSF Enthusiast Join Date: May 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 13,701 OS: Win 3.1, 98, NT 4.0, XP Debian 4.0, Kubuntu 6.06 My System Blog Entries: 3	Re: Video card upgrade becomes downgrade. Both are the same connector if I am understanding you correctly. __________________ - Matt M - KB1OSC - Folding@Home 85015 [url="http://www.techsupportforum.com/hardware-support/"] If TSF has helped you, please consider donating. If I have stopped responding to a thread, feel free to send me a PM with a link to the thread. It is advisable to subscribe to threads so you will receive updates when replies are posted. You can subscribe to threads from the "Thread Tools" Menu. »Memtest86 »Prime95 »UBCD »SpeedFan »NHC Personal »Everest »Sandra »PC Wizard »RivaTuner »ATi Tool Click here for Useful Articles and Guides

09-11-2007, 02:19 PM	#18 (permalink)
Master-of-Doom Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 207 OS: XP	Re: Video card upgrade becomes downgrade. I will probably post my next response in about 2 weeks after I manage to get an Antec Trio 550watt since that seems to be an amazing power supply. Ill post my resuslts after it arrives and hopefully that solves the problem.

09-11-2007, 02:22 PM	#19 (permalink)
1 g0t 0wn3d TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Sedona, az Posts: 6,528 OS: Vista basic 32bit My System	Re: Video card upgrade becomes downgrade. Ok if you got it at new egg you should have it in around a week or less. __________________ Bench Test \| PC Wizard \| System specs \| PSU info \| PSU calculator \| Memtest86+ \| Speedfan

09-11-2007, 03:09 PM	#20 (permalink)
Master-of-Doom Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 207 OS: XP	Re: Video card upgrade becomes downgrade. I think I am going to get it from Zipzoomfly because its only $90 there with free shipping. Im probably going to buy it next week so feel free to post lower prices.