Sold my PCI-E card now trying to use onboard but no display

mullenium · 07-19-2007, 09:46 AM

I recently sold my PCI-E card, I could have swore I uninstalled my old card's drivers and Im 100% sure I downloaded the drivers for the onboard card off of HP's website, but I cant remember If i installed them..im pretty sure I did but:

I had to go out and buy a DVI-F to VGA-M adapter to use for my monitor on the onboard card (since I only have DVI cable on my LCD)

the computer boots up fine with no beeps but there is no display, just a black screen and monitor's power button goes orange. when I unplug the VGA and plug it back in it goes blue for a sec then switches back to orange.

I cant get into bios because I cant see anything on the screen in the first place, unless I try to do it blind.

Any ideas?

ebackhus · 07-19-2007, 10:43 AM

If you had to manually set it to use the PCI-E card in the BIOS then it'll have to be manually set back.

This is a huge chore when you run it blind.

The easy way out is to reset the BIOS, causing it to revert back to the factory specs. To do this the easy way just unplug the power, pop that guy open, and remove the small battery for about 2-5 minutes. Replace the battery, slap the cover on, and juice it. You may have to make a few minor adjustments in the BIOS again but we can help you if any are confusing.

mullenium · 07-19-2007, 11:03 AM

what If i never manually set it in the bios.. when I orig installed the PCI-E card all I did was pop it in and it recognized it right away

mullenium · 07-19-2007, 11:09 AM

yeah removing the cmos bat and switching jumpers to reset bios didnt work.

mullenium · 07-19-2007, 11:12 AM

could it be my DVI -> VGA adaptor.. the package said DVI-F (analog) to VGA-M

maybe its not compatible with an LCD screen?

**UncleMacro** · 07-19-2007, 11:48 AM

Normally, the BIOS option about whether the PCIe or onboard video is your default video only matters if there's more than one video card in the system. If you remove the PCIe video card then it should go back to the onboard video automatically. I'd think it's something to do with the monitor. Does your monitor have only a DVI input and no VGA? If you have both then the DVI input is probably digital only and you'd have to use the VGA input on the monitor. If you've got only a DVI input then it better not be digital only. The monitor specifications should tell you which kind you've got. You can also look at this page and compare the cable to the first set of pictures. Unless they've cabled it in a wierd way then you can tell from the cable whether it's digital only.

mullenium · 07-19-2007, 12:03 PM

Hey I think that might work Macro..

my monitor is both VGA and DVI output's.. and Ive been trying to run the DVI cable out of the monitor to a VGA adaptor into the onboard video card..

Ill have to try a VGA male to male cable and just return the adaptor I bought..

**UncleMacro** · 07-19-2007, 12:06 PM

Yea, that's probably the problem. If an LCD has one DVI input and one VGA input then the DVI is usually digital only.

mullenium · 07-19-2007, 12:06 PM

do I want a VGA HD-15 cable, or SVGA cable?

mullenium · 07-19-2007, 12:09 PM

Hey Macro Im in SD too..nice to see a fellow San Diegan on the forum :)

**UncleMacro** · 07-19-2007, 12:12 PM

There's only one kind of VGA but there are different qualities of cable. Cheap cables look kind of fuzzy at high resolutions. Sometimes they call the good ones "SVGA" cables. If you're running above 1024x768 then I'd avoid the cheap ones. You can tell by looking at them whether they're good ones. You can see the difference side-by-side on this page. Some places really soak you for decent VGA cables. But good ones don't really cost that much if you shop around a bit.

**UncleMacro** · 07-19-2007, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mullenium

Hey Macro Im in SD too..nice to see a fellow San Diegan on the forum :)

Yep. It's nice. I went sailing in the Beer can races last night and it was really nice on the bay (and we did well for once). This is us.

mullenium · 07-19-2007, 12:31 PM

nice!

my fiancee and I have never been on a sail boat, Ive always wanted to get one though but she just laughs at me haha

**UncleMacro** · 07-19-2007, 12:36 PM

It's my brother's boat. You get to do a ridiculous amount of work on it and then spend a whole lot of money. It's not my problem. I'm just the crew (the guy who gets yelled at when something goes wrong).

mullenium · 07-19-2007, 12:46 PM

how many passenger?

**UncleMacro** · 07-19-2007, 01:04 PM

It's not all that big (a little more than 30 feet). You can have four people up top if you're not racing. There's room in the cabin for a few more people but sitting down there is a good way to get seasick (urp!). If you're racing it gets pretty busy and three is about right. There's usually just two of us because it's hard to scare up a crew who knows what they're doing. The other boats in our class usually have four or five people on them although most of them are just rail meat

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07-19-2007, 09:46 AM	#1 (permalink)
mullenium Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 9 OS: XP	Sold my PCI-E card now trying to use onboard but no display I recently sold my PCI-E card, I could have swore I uninstalled my old card's drivers and Im 100% sure I downloaded the drivers for the onboard card off of HP's website, but I cant remember If i installed them..im pretty sure I did but: I had to go out and buy a DVI-F to VGA-M adapter to use for my monitor on the onboard card (since I only have DVI cable on my LCD) the computer boots up fine with no beeps but there is no display, just a black screen and monitor's power button goes orange. when I unplug the VGA and plug it back in it goes blue for a sec then switches back to orange. I cant get into bios because I cant see anything on the screen in the first place, unless I try to do it blind. Any ideas? Last edited by mullenium; 07-19-2007 at 09:47 AM.

07-19-2007, 10:43 AM	#2 (permalink)
ebackhus Manager, Design Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: SATX Posts: 14,265 OS: WinXP Pro SP3/Windows 7 RTM My System Blog Entries: 28	Re: Sold my PCI-E card now trying to use onboard but no display If you had to manually set it to use the PCI-E card in the BIOS then it'll have to be manually set back. This is a huge chore when you run it blind. The easy way out is to reset the BIOS, causing it to revert back to the factory specs. To do this the easy way just unplug the power, pop that guy open, and remove the small battery for about 2-5 minutes. Replace the battery, slap the cover on, and juice it. You may have to make a few minor adjustments in the BIOS again but we can help you if any are confusing. __________________ ----------------------------- There are no dumb questions, unless a customer is asking them. Help in the fight against cancer and other serious illnesses.

07-19-2007, 11:03 AM	#3 (permalink)
mullenium Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 9 OS: XP	Re: Sold my PCI-E card now trying to use onboard but no display what If i never manually set it in the bios.. when I orig installed the PCI-E card all I did was pop it in and it recognized it right away

07-19-2007, 11:09 AM	#4 (permalink)
mullenium Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 9 OS: XP	Re: Sold my PCI-E card now trying to use onboard but no display yeah removing the cmos bat and switching jumpers to reset bios didnt work.

07-19-2007, 11:12 AM	#5 (permalink)
mullenium Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 9 OS: XP	Re: Sold my PCI-E card now trying to use onboard but no display could it be my DVI -> VGA adaptor.. the package said DVI-F (analog) to VGA-M maybe its not compatible with an LCD screen?

07-19-2007, 11:48 AM	#6 (permalink)
UncleMacro TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,133 OS: Vista SP1 My System	Re: Sold my PCI-E card now trying to use onboard but no display Normally, the BIOS option about whether the PCIe or onboard video is your default video only matters if there's more than one video card in the system. If you remove the PCIe video card then it should go back to the onboard video automatically. I'd think it's something to do with the monitor. Does your monitor have only a DVI input and no VGA? If you have both then the DVI input is probably digital only and you'd have to use the VGA input on the monitor. If you've got only a DVI input then it better not be digital only. The monitor specifications should tell you which kind you've got. You can also look at this page and compare the cable to the first set of pictures. Unless they've cabled it in a wierd way then you can tell from the cable whether it's digital only.

07-19-2007, 12:03 PM	#7 (permalink)
mullenium Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 9 OS: XP	Re: Sold my PCI-E card now trying to use onboard but no display Hey I think that might work Macro.. my monitor is both VGA and DVI output's.. and Ive been trying to run the DVI cable out of the monitor to a VGA adaptor into the onboard video card.. Ill have to try a VGA male to male cable and just return the adaptor I bought.. Last edited by mullenium; 07-19-2007 at 12:06 PM.

07-19-2007, 12:06 PM	#8 (permalink)
UncleMacro TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,133 OS: Vista SP1 My System	Re: Sold my PCI-E card now trying to use onboard but no display Yea, that's probably the problem. If an LCD has one DVI input and one VGA input then the DVI is usually digital only.

07-19-2007, 12:06 PM	#9 (permalink)
mullenium Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 9 OS: XP	Re: Sold my PCI-E card now trying to use onboard but no display do I want a VGA HD-15 cable, or SVGA cable?

07-19-2007, 12:09 PM	#10 (permalink)
mullenium Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 9 OS: XP	Re: Sold my PCI-E card now trying to use onboard but no display Hey Macro Im in SD too..nice to see a fellow San Diegan on the forum :)

07-19-2007, 12:12 PM	#11 (permalink)
UncleMacro TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,133 OS: Vista SP1 My System	Re: Sold my PCI-E card now trying to use onboard but no display There's only one kind of VGA but there are different qualities of cable. Cheap cables look kind of fuzzy at high resolutions. Sometimes they call the good ones "SVGA" cables. If you're running above 1024x768 then I'd avoid the cheap ones. You can tell by looking at them whether they're good ones. You can see the difference side-by-side on this page. Some places really soak you for decent VGA cables. But good ones don't really cost that much if you shop around a bit.

07-19-2007, 12:31 PM	#13 (permalink)
mullenium Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 9 OS: XP	Re: Sold my PCI-E card now trying to use onboard but no display nice! my fiancee and I have never been on a sail boat, Ive always wanted to get one though but she just laughs at me haha

07-19-2007, 12:36 PM	#14 (permalink)
UncleMacro TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,133 OS: Vista SP1 My System	Re: Sold my PCI-E card now trying to use onboard but no display It's my brother's boat. You get to do a ridiculous amount of work on it and then spend a whole lot of money. It's not my problem. I'm just the crew (the guy who gets yelled at when something goes wrong).

07-19-2007, 12:46 PM	#15 (permalink)
mullenium Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 9 OS: XP	Re: Sold my PCI-E card now trying to use onboard but no display how many passenger?

07-19-2007, 01:04 PM	#16 (permalink)
UncleMacro TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,133 OS: Vista SP1 My System	Re: Sold my PCI-E card now trying to use onboard but no display It's not all that big (a little more than 30 feet). You can have four people up top if you're not racing. There's room in the cabin for a few more people but sitting down there is a good way to get seasick (urp!). If you're racing it gets pretty busy and three is about right. There's usually just two of us because it's hard to scare up a crew who knows what they're doing. The other boats in our class usually have four or five people on them although most of them are just rail meat .