AGP - PCI or PCI-E?

~~Beacon~~ · 12-22-2006, 01:58 PM

Hi all, I just bought an ATI Radeon x1950 Pro 512 MB graphics card for my PC, but I didn't know about AGP and PCI etc. This graphics card is PCI-E and I think you cannot run it on anything else. MY question is - how do I confirm what I have, and if I don't have PCI-E - what can I do?

Thanks,
Beacon

~~Beacon~~ · 12-22-2006, 02:19 PM

Cmon guys - this is kinda urgent.

~~Beacon~~ · 12-22-2006, 02:47 PM

Come one someone - please?

BlackFlagg · 12-22-2006, 03:40 PM

You need to have a PCI-E slot on your motherboard to run a PCI-E card.

http://www.directron.com/expressguide.html has a some pictured of PCI, AGP and PCI-E cards. You should be able to look in your PC and tell what kind of card you have now and what you can upgrade to.

How old is your PC? That may be an easier way to tell. PCI-E is relatively new compared to AGP. If your system is a few years old, I would guess you have an AGP slot not a PCI-E.

~~Beacon~~ · 12-22-2006, 03:43 PM

It's 1 year old the day before yesterday - but it was custom built.

~~Beacon~~ · 12-22-2006, 03:45 PM

******* [Removed]. I think I have a normal PCI. What the **** do I do?

~~Beacon~~ · 12-22-2006, 04:10 PM

****, I have an ASUS A8V Deluxe motherboard, it has no PCI-E slots. I am [Removed]. What do I do?

**TheMatt** · 12-22-2006, 04:47 PM

Please don't use that kind of language on the forum. It doesn't serve any purpose, and is not appropriate.

Since it is not compatible, return it. Get something like a 7800GS. Look at the overclocked versions for more performance. XFX, BFG, and eVGA have some good ones.

~~Beacon~~ · 12-22-2006, 04:56 PM

Sorry, I'm very annoyed. :(

~~Beacon~~ · 12-22-2006, 04:59 PM

What can I say to get it returned? "Sorry - Didn't read the thing properly - can you take it back? thanks. :)"

**TheMatt** · 12-22-2006, 09:16 PM

Where did you buy it from? You should just be able to exchange it for something else. Usually they don't question you unless it is damaged.

~~Beacon~~ · 12-23-2006, 02:05 AM

Tekheads.co.uk

**TheMatt** · 12-23-2006, 04:11 PM

This page gives an e-mail address and a phone number for their customer service. Just say you ordered the wrong product and you want to exchange it for another. I have done this many times with different websites and have had no major problems with returns in terms of the site not offering to exchange items.

http://www.tekheads.co.uk/s/contacts

If you are looking for a good AGP replacement, take a look at this:
http://www.tekheads.co.uk/s/product?product=606761

~~Beacon~~ · 12-23-2006, 04:16 PM

Thanks, but that card is like 50 pounds more, and a worse card!

**TheMatt** · 12-23-2006, 04:22 PM

AGP will always be more expensive and limited unfortunatley. The performance won't actually be that much worse though. If it is out of your budget, look at this:
http://www.tekheads.co.uk/s/product?product=606462

~~Beacon~~ · 12-23-2006, 04:24 PM

Oh :(
That;s still a bit too expensive. I need something around the 175 pound mark

**TheMatt** · 12-23-2006, 04:35 PM

Well I found the AGP version of the card you ordered. It was on another site called misco.co.uk for 160£ including VAT. They are reputable, as they are the UK version of TigerDirect, which is popular in the US. Just return the other card.
http://www.misco.co.uk/productinform...phics card.htm

BlackFlagg · 12-23-2006, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Thanks, but that card is like 50 pounds more, and a worse card!

Can't be any worse that not being able to use the one you have now.

agentRed · 12-23-2006, 10:02 PM

Well...AGP isn't really any SLOWER than PCI-E. It's just...it's got a higher bandwith. You have to throw your card into over-drive to really tell the difference between AGP and PCIE

~~Beacon~~ · 12-24-2006, 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMatt

Well I found the AGP version of the card you ordered. It was on another site called misco.co.uk for 160£ including VAT. They are reputable, as they are the UK version of TigerDirect, which is popular in the US. Just return the other card.
http://www.misco.co.uk/productinform...phics card.htm

Thanks very much - that will do very nicely, the AGP version is cheaper than the PCI-E version :D
On another note - will my 400W PSU be able to handle it?

12-22-2006, 01:58 PM	#1 (permalink)
~~Beacon~~ Register user Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 88 OS: XP	AGP - PCI or PCI-E? Hi all, I just bought an ATI Radeon x1950 Pro 512 MB graphics card for my PC, but I didn't know about AGP and PCI etc. This graphics card is PCI-E and I think you cannot run it on anything else. MY question is - how do I confirm what I have, and if I don't have PCI-E - what can I do? Thanks, Beacon

12-22-2006, 03:45 PM	#6 (permalink)
~~Beacon~~ Register user Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 88 OS: XP	***** [Removed]. I think I have a normal PCI. What the ** do I do? Last edited by TheMatt; 12-22-2006 at 04:38 PM.

12-22-2006, 04:10 PM	#7 (permalink)
~~Beacon~~ Register user Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 88 OS: XP	***, I have an ASUS A8V Deluxe motherboard, it has no PCI-E slots. I am [Removed]. What do I do? Last edited by TheMatt; 12-22-2006 at 04:37 PM.*

12-22-2006, 04:47 PM	#8 (permalink)
TheMatt TSF Enthusiast Join Date: May 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 13,701 OS: Win 3.1, 98, NT 4.0, XP Debian 4.0, Kubuntu 6.06 My System Blog Entries: 3	Please don't use that kind of language on the forum. It doesn't serve any purpose, and is not appropriate. Since it is not compatible, return it. Get something like a 7800GS. Look at the overclocked versions for more performance. XFX, BFG, and eVGA have some good ones. __________________ - Matt M - KB1OSC - Folding@Home 85015 [url="http://www.techsupportforum.com/hardware-support/"] If TSF has helped you, please consider donating. If I have stopped responding to a thread, feel free to send me a PM with a link to the thread. It is advisable to subscribe to threads so you will receive updates when replies are posted. You can subscribe to threads from the "Thread Tools" Menu. »Memtest86 »Prime95 »UBCD »SpeedFan »NHC Personal »Everest »Sandra »PC Wizard »RivaTuner »ATi Tool Click here for Useful Articles and Guides

12-22-2006, 09:16 PM	#11 (permalink)
TheMatt TSF Enthusiast Join Date: May 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 13,701 OS: Win 3.1, 98, NT 4.0, XP Debian 4.0, Kubuntu 6.06 My System Blog Entries: 3	Where did you buy it from? You should just be able to exchange it for something else. Usually they don't question you unless it is damaged. __________________ - Matt M - KB1OSC - Folding@Home 85015 [url="http://www.techsupportforum.com/hardware-support/"] If TSF has helped you, please consider donating. If I have stopped responding to a thread, feel free to send me a PM with a link to the thread. It is advisable to subscribe to threads so you will receive updates when replies are posted. You can subscribe to threads from the "Thread Tools" Menu. »Memtest86 »Prime95 »UBCD »SpeedFan »NHC Personal »Everest »Sandra »PC Wizard »RivaTuner »ATi Tool Click here for Useful Articles and Guides

12-22-2006, 02:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
~~Beacon~~ Register user Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 88 OS: XP	Cmon guys - this is kinda urgent.

12-22-2006, 02:47 PM	#3 (permalink)
~~Beacon~~ Register user Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 88 OS: XP	Come one someone - please?

12-22-2006, 03:40 PM	#4 (permalink)
BlackFlagg Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: York, Pa Posts: 7 OS: Windows XP My System	You need to have a PCI-E slot on your motherboard to run a PCI-E card. http://www.directron.com/expressguide.html has a some pictured of PCI, AGP and PCI-E cards. You should be able to look in your PC and tell what kind of card you have now and what you can upgrade to. How old is your PC? That may be an easier way to tell. PCI-E is relatively new compared to AGP. If your system is a few years old, I would guess you have an AGP slot not a PCI-E.

12-22-2006, 03:43 PM	#5 (permalink)
~~Beacon~~ Register user Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 88 OS: XP	It's 1 year old the day before yesterday - but it was custom built.

12-22-2006, 04:56 PM	#9 (permalink)
~~Beacon~~ Register user Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 88 OS: XP	Sorry, I'm very annoyed. :(

12-22-2006, 04:59 PM	#10 (permalink)
~~Beacon~~ Register user Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 88 OS: XP	What can I say to get it returned? "Sorry - Didn't read the thing properly - can you take it back? thanks. :)"

12-23-2006, 02:05 AM	#12 (permalink)
~~Beacon~~ Register user Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 88 OS: XP	Tekheads.co.uk

12-23-2006, 04:11 PM	#13 (permalink)
TheMatt TSF Enthusiast Join Date: May 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 13,701 OS: Win 3.1, 98, NT 4.0, XP Debian 4.0, Kubuntu 6.06 My System Blog Entries: 3	This page gives an e-mail address and a phone number for their customer service. Just say you ordered the wrong product and you want to exchange it for another. I have done this many times with different websites and have had no major problems with returns in terms of the site not offering to exchange items. http://www.tekheads.co.uk/s/contacts If you are looking for a good AGP replacement, take a look at this: http://www.tekheads.co.uk/s/product?product=606761 __________________ - Matt M - KB1OSC - Folding@Home 85015 [url="http://www.techsupportforum.com/hardware-support/"] If TSF has helped you, please consider donating. If I have stopped responding to a thread, feel free to send me a PM with a link to the thread. It is advisable to subscribe to threads so you will receive updates when replies are posted. You can subscribe to threads from the "Thread Tools" Menu. »Memtest86 »Prime95 »UBCD »SpeedFan »NHC Personal »Everest »Sandra »PC Wizard »RivaTuner »ATi Tool Click here for Useful Articles and Guides Last edited by TheMatt; 12-23-2006 at 04:14 PM.

12-23-2006, 04:16 PM	#14 (permalink)
~~Beacon~~ Register user Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 88 OS: XP	Thanks, but that card is like 50 pounds more, and a worse card!

12-23-2006, 04:22 PM	#15 (permalink)
TheMatt TSF Enthusiast Join Date: May 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 13,701 OS: Win 3.1, 98, NT 4.0, XP Debian 4.0, Kubuntu 6.06 My System Blog Entries: 3	AGP will always be more expensive and limited unfortunatley. The performance won't actually be that much worse though. If it is out of your budget, look at this: http://www.tekheads.co.uk/s/product?product=606462 __________________ - Matt M - KB1OSC - Folding@Home 85015 [url="http://www.techsupportforum.com/hardware-support/"] If TSF has helped you, please consider donating. If I have stopped responding to a thread, feel free to send me a PM with a link to the thread. It is advisable to subscribe to threads so you will receive updates when replies are posted. You can subscribe to threads from the "Thread Tools" Menu. »Memtest86 »Prime95 »UBCD »SpeedFan »NHC Personal »Everest »Sandra »PC Wizard »RivaTuner »ATi Tool Click here for Useful Articles and Guides

12-23-2006, 04:24 PM	#16 (permalink)
~~Beacon~~ Register user Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 88 OS: XP	Oh :( That;s still a bit too expensive. I need something around the 175 pound mark

12-23-2006, 04:35 PM	#17 (permalink)
TheMatt TSF Enthusiast Join Date: May 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 13,701 OS: Win 3.1, 98, NT 4.0, XP Debian 4.0, Kubuntu 6.06 My System Blog Entries: 3	Well I found the AGP version of the card you ordered. It was on another site called misco.co.uk for 160£ including VAT. They are reputable, as they are the UK version of TigerDirect, which is popular in the US. Just return the other card. http://www.misco.co.uk/productinform...phics card.htm __________________ - Matt M - KB1OSC - Folding@Home 85015 [url="http://www.techsupportforum.com/hardware-support/"] If TSF has helped you, please consider donating. If I have stopped responding to a thread, feel free to send me a PM with a link to the thread. It is advisable to subscribe to threads so you will receive updates when replies are posted. You can subscribe to threads from the "Thread Tools" Menu. »Memtest86 »Prime95 »UBCD »SpeedFan »NHC Personal »Everest »Sandra »PC Wizard »RivaTuner »ATi Tool Click here for Useful Articles and Guides

12-23-2006, 10:02 PM	#19 (permalink)
agentRed Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Atlanta Posts: 384 OS: Windows XP My System	Well...AGP isn't really any SLOWER than PCI-E. It's just...it's got a higher bandwith. You have to throw your card into over-drive to really tell the difference between AGP and PCIE __________________ "Your computer isn't smoking yet? Go higher! Go higher!!" -Dr. Whose-a-what-smoking-it "You are now entering the harmonic world..." -Gorillaz