GS vs. GT

uallnojack · 12-10-2006, 01:21 PM

Looking for the best AGP card and looking at GeForce 7 serires what is the difference between GS, GT, and GTX (I dont think there is a GTX for AGP, is there?). is the 7800 the best i can get? what is the difference between the manufacturers? My spending limit is $250. An s-video out would be ideal but i guess i could get a converter may be. suggestions.

curently have XFX 5800 LE 256mb

**forcifer** · 12-10-2006, 01:48 PM

x1650 pro is also good. GT is PCIe only, so its either GS or x1650

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161032

uallnojack · 12-10-2006, 03:07 PM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150210

above is a XFX 7600 GT

there is also 7300 GT

basically im wondering if the 7600 GT is better than the 7800 GS

or if there is another video card that is better

uallnojack · 12-10-2006, 04:36 PM

to add to last reply I know absolutly nothing about non Nvidia cards and no idea on how to compare Nvidia to anything else

i also dont know the difference between manufacturers. what manufacturers are good?

**forcifer** · 12-10-2006, 06:34 PM

7800gs is better then 7600GT....aobut x1650 vs 7800GS, http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphi...=590&chart=230

7800GS ftw

**TheMatt** · 12-10-2006, 09:37 PM

Look at these and the 7600GT. I remember there was a 7800GS KO, but tiger doesn't have it.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...819505&CatId=0
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...342082&CatId=0

uallnojack · 12-11-2006, 02:35 PM

what about the two in the catagory below? whats the difference between them? if 7800 is better than which maufacturer would i want.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...SubCategory=48

currently i am between the two above, the XFX the person above linked the radon below or anything else that is up there more suggestions of "whats up there" or what to exclude would be good. the reason i liked the radeon is becouse of the oblivion score. i am also not looking for absolute best resolution because my screen doesnt have enought pixels to make a difference. tell me what you guys think. i also have a spending limit of $250 and can maybe stretch it to max $300.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102065

**forcifer** · 12-11-2006, 03:24 PM

evga is also a very good brand. the 7800GS is going to be the best AGP card you can buy. just make sure the card maker is eVGA, XFX, BFG, or Asus. MSI also makes decent ones, but the companies i have listed are better

**TheMatt** · 12-11-2006, 08:27 PM

The 7800GS I posted is an overclocked version and is faster. The 7600GT is also a nice choice, so go for that if you can't afford the 7800GS.

uallnojack · 12-12-2006, 07:14 PM

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...831179&CatId=0

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...ab=11&NoMapp=0

what is the difference between the two above?

also out of all the ones listed what would be the best buy. Is XFX or the evga CO worth the $50 more?

**forcifer** · 12-12-2006, 07:50 PM

the eVGA is overclocked alot. that is good, because you will have alot better performance and wont be killing the warrenty. as for eVGA vs XFX, my vote goes to eVGA but XFX also makes very good cards. it really is worth the extra $50 because it could save you about $250

Martingale00 · 12-13-2006, 03:27 AM

When I bought my Nvidia the tech guy told me to but the lower GT version over the higher GS version, as in get a 7600 GT over a 7900 GS. As it turned out they were out of stock of almost all GT's so I bought a 7900 GS and I've been totally happy with it. Would a 7600 GT have been better?

**forcifer** · 12-13-2006, 05:51 AM

nope. 7900GS is ALOT better then the 7600gt. more pipelines, more clock speed, more ram speed

uallnojack · 12-13-2006, 09:14 AM

would a warrenty apply to the non CO if i overclocked it?

**TheMatt** · 12-13-2006, 02:48 PM

The XFX card I posted is 10 MHz core, but it really won't make too much of a difference. XFX and eVGA are both good, but I usually pick eVGA over XFX if I find two cards that are of the same spec. Keep in mind the X850Pro is still a good choice to consider.

It basicly goes LE < GS < GT < GTX/XT with the exception being on the 6800GT, which had four more pipelines than the 6800XT. But a higher number card will almost always beat a lower number card regardless of the GS or GT. But keep in mind that older cards can still be better than newer cards. For example, a 6600GT will beat a 7300GS.

Factory overclocked cards still carry a warranty, and both eVGA and XFX have a lifetime warranty on their cards.

uallnojack · 12-13-2006, 04:49 PM

Lots of very very helpful info matt. it brings up a few more questions. could i easily get the same results from overclocking the less expensive evga or would that void the warrenty? Or should i just go for the factory overclocked?
i also cant find an X850 pro or its specs.

**forcifer** · 12-13-2006, 05:22 PM

factory over clocked if you can afford it. overclocking does kill the warranty on most if not all cards. if you cant afford it, stock will be fine

uallnojack · 12-13-2006, 06:34 PM

thanx

i was also just looking at ATI cards and want to know what some reliable manufacturers are. what specs am i looking for when comparing the geforce 7800s vs the X1650 radon. i could tell the radeons had better core clock but not nearly as good memory clock. If i do decide to go radeon what manufacturer would be good?

uallnojack · 12-13-2006, 07:04 PM

just found X850 and realized that X1650 is no good. I now really need to know what i would find more useful: higher core clock or higher memory clock.

or even just to make it more simple here is what im looking at:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1831181&Tab=2&NoMapp=0

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1831179&Tab=2&NoMapp=0

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2342082&Tab=2&NoMapp=0

what do you guys suggest

uallnojack · 12-14-2006, 12:56 PM

is there a difference between gddr3 and ddr3?

12-10-2006, 01:21 PM	#1 (permalink)
uallnojack Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: VT Posts: 42 OS: XP	GS vs. GT Looking for the best AGP card and looking at GeForce 7 serires what is the difference between GS, GT, and GTX (I dont think there is a GTX for AGP, is there?). is the 7800 the best i can get? what is the difference between the manufacturers? My spending limit is $250. An s-video out would be ideal but i guess i could get a converter may be. suggestions. curently have XFX 5800 LE 256mb

12-10-2006, 01:48 PM	#2 (permalink)
forcifer ole' Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kansas City kansas Posts: 3,631 OS: Vista Premium 32 My System Blog Entries: 1	x1650 pro is also good. GT is PCIe only, so its either GS or x1650 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161032 __________________

12-10-2006, 06:34 PM	#5 (permalink)
forcifer ole' Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kansas City kansas Posts: 3,631 OS: Vista Premium 32 My System Blog Entries: 1	7800gs is better then 7600GT....aobut x1650 vs 7800GS, http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphi...=590&chart=230 7800GS ftw __________________

12-10-2006, 09:37 PM	#6 (permalink)
TheMatt TSF Enthusiast Join Date: May 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 13,701 OS: Win 3.1, 98, NT 4.0, XP Debian 4.0, Kubuntu 6.06 My System Blog Entries: 3	Look at these and the 7600GT. I remember there was a 7800GS KO, but tiger doesn't have it. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...819505&CatId=0 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...342082&CatId=0 __________________ - Matt M - KB1OSC - Folding@Home 85015 [url="http://www.techsupportforum.com/hardware-support/"] If TSF has helped you, please consider donating. If I have stopped responding to a thread, feel free to send me a PM with a link to the thread. It is advisable to subscribe to threads so you will receive updates when replies are posted. You can subscribe to threads from the "Thread Tools" Menu. »Memtest86 »Prime95 »UBCD »SpeedFan »NHC Personal »Everest »Sandra »PC Wizard »RivaTuner »ATi Tool Click here for Useful Articles and Guides

12-11-2006, 02:35 PM	#7 (permalink)
uallnojack Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: VT Posts: 42 OS: XP	what about the two in the catagory below? whats the difference between them? if 7800 is better than which maufacturer would i want. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...SubCategory=48 currently i am between the two above, the XFX the person above linked the radon below or anything else that is up there more suggestions of "whats up there" or what to exclude would be good. the reason i liked the radeon is becouse of the oblivion score. i am also not looking for absolute best resolution because my screen doesnt have enought pixels to make a difference. tell me what you guys think. i also have a spending limit of $250 and can maybe stretch it to max $300. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102065 Last edited by uallnojack; 12-11-2006 at 03:04 PM.

12-10-2006, 03:07 PM	#3 (permalink)
uallnojack Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: VT Posts: 42 OS: XP	http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150210 above is a XFX 7600 GT there is also 7300 GT basically im wondering if the 7600 GT is better than the 7800 GS or if there is another video card that is better

12-10-2006, 04:36 PM	#4 (permalink)
uallnojack Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: VT Posts: 42 OS: XP	to add to last reply I know absolutly nothing about non Nvidia cards and no idea on how to compare Nvidia to anything else i also dont know the difference between manufacturers. what manufacturers are good?

12-11-2006, 03:24 PM	#8 (permalink)
forcifer ole' Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kansas City kansas Posts: 3,631 OS: Vista Premium 32 My System Blog Entries: 1	evga is also a very good brand. the 7800GS is going to be the best AGP card you can buy. just make sure the card maker is eVGA, XFX, BFG, or Asus. MSI also makes decent ones, but the companies i have listed are better __________________

12-11-2006, 08:27 PM	#9 (permalink)
TheMatt TSF Enthusiast Join Date: May 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 13,701 OS: Win 3.1, 98, NT 4.0, XP Debian 4.0, Kubuntu 6.06 My System Blog Entries: 3	The 7800GS I posted is an overclocked version and is faster. The 7600GT is also a nice choice, so go for that if you can't afford the 7800GS. __________________ - Matt M - KB1OSC - Folding@Home 85015 [url="http://www.techsupportforum.com/hardware-support/"] If TSF has helped you, please consider donating. If I have stopped responding to a thread, feel free to send me a PM with a link to the thread. It is advisable to subscribe to threads so you will receive updates when replies are posted. You can subscribe to threads from the "Thread Tools" Menu. »Memtest86 »Prime95 »UBCD »SpeedFan »NHC Personal »Everest »Sandra »PC Wizard »RivaTuner »ATi Tool Click here for Useful Articles and Guides

12-12-2006, 07:14 PM	#10 (permalink)
uallnojack Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: VT Posts: 42 OS: XP	http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...831179&CatId=0 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...ab=11&NoMapp=0 what is the difference between the two above? also out of all the ones listed what would be the best buy. Is XFX or the evga CO worth the $50 more? Last edited by uallnojack; 12-12-2006 at 07:20 PM.

12-12-2006, 07:50 PM	#11 (permalink)
forcifer ole' Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kansas City kansas Posts: 3,631 OS: Vista Premium 32 My System Blog Entries: 1	the eVGA is overclocked alot. that is good, because you will have alot better performance and wont be killing the warrenty. as for eVGA vs XFX, my vote goes to eVGA but XFX also makes very good cards. it really is worth the extra $50 because it could save you about $250 __________________

12-13-2006, 03:27 AM	#12 (permalink)
Martingale00 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 153 OS: Windows XP	When I bought my Nvidia the tech guy told me to but the lower GT version over the higher GS version, as in get a 7600 GT over a 7900 GS. As it turned out they were out of stock of almost all GT's so I bought a 7900 GS and I've been totally happy with it. Would a 7600 GT have been better?

12-13-2006, 05:51 AM	#13 (permalink)
forcifer ole' Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kansas City kansas Posts: 3,631 OS: Vista Premium 32 My System Blog Entries: 1	nope. 7900GS is ALOT better then the 7600gt. more pipelines, more clock speed, more ram speed __________________

12-13-2006, 09:14 AM	#14 (permalink)
uallnojack Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: VT Posts: 42 OS: XP	would a warrenty apply to the non CO if i overclocked it?

12-13-2006, 02:48 PM	#15 (permalink)
TheMatt TSF Enthusiast Join Date: May 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 13,701 OS: Win 3.1, 98, NT 4.0, XP Debian 4.0, Kubuntu 6.06 My System Blog Entries: 3	The XFX card I posted is 10 MHz core, but it really won't make too much of a difference. XFX and eVGA are both good, but I usually pick eVGA over XFX if I find two cards that are of the same spec. Keep in mind the X850Pro is still a good choice to consider. It basicly goes LE < GS < GT < GTX/XT with the exception being on the 6800GT, which had four more pipelines than the 6800XT. But a higher number card will almost always beat a lower number card regardless of the GS or GT. But keep in mind that older cards can still be better than newer cards. For example, a 6600GT will beat a 7300GS. Factory overclocked cards still carry a warranty, and both eVGA and XFX have a lifetime warranty on their cards. __________________ - Matt M - KB1OSC - Folding@Home 85015 [url="http://www.techsupportforum.com/hardware-support/"] If TSF has helped you, please consider donating. If I have stopped responding to a thread, feel free to send me a PM with a link to the thread. It is advisable to subscribe to threads so you will receive updates when replies are posted. You can subscribe to threads from the "Thread Tools" Menu. »Memtest86 »Prime95 »UBCD »SpeedFan »NHC Personal »Everest »Sandra »PC Wizard »RivaTuner »ATi Tool Click here for Useful Articles and Guides

12-13-2006, 04:49 PM	#16 (permalink)
uallnojack Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: VT Posts: 42 OS: XP	Lots of very very helpful info matt. it brings up a few more questions. could i easily get the same results from overclocking the less expensive evga or would that void the warrenty? Or should i just go for the factory overclocked? i also cant find an X850 pro or its specs.

12-13-2006, 05:22 PM	#17 (permalink)
forcifer ole' Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kansas City kansas Posts: 3,631 OS: Vista Premium 32 My System Blog Entries: 1	factory over clocked if you can afford it. overclocking does kill the warranty on most if not all cards. if you cant afford it, stock will be fine __________________

12-13-2006, 06:34 PM	#18 (permalink)
uallnojack Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: VT Posts: 42 OS: XP	thanx i was also just looking at ATI cards and want to know what some reliable manufacturers are. what specs am i looking for when comparing the geforce 7800s vs the X1650 radon. i could tell the radeons had better core clock but not nearly as good memory clock. If i do decide to go radeon what manufacturer would be good? Last edited by uallnojack; 12-13-2006 at 06:57 PM.

12-13-2006, 07:04 PM	#19 (permalink)
uallnojack Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: VT Posts: 42 OS: XP	just found X850 and realized that X1650 is no good. I now really need to know what i would find more useful: higher core clock or higher memory clock. or even just to make it more simple here is what im looking at: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1831181&Tab=2&NoMapp=0 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1831179&Tab=2&NoMapp=0 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2342082&Tab=2&NoMapp=0 what do you guys suggest Last edited by uallnojack; 12-13-2006 at 07:21 PM.

12-14-2006, 12:56 PM	#20 (permalink)
uallnojack Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: VT Posts: 42 OS: XP	is there a difference between gddr3 and ddr3?