Computer screen wont turn on with video card

Jord2 · 10-23-2006, 08:53 PM

Hello everyone. I have a question my parents computer screen wont turn on with the ATI All in wonder X800(AGP). It worked for like 3 days(with the new video card) then I was having a LAN party at my house and we had a power surge and when we got power the computer still worked for that day but then the next day the screen wouldnt turn on. And yes i checked if the CPU can handle the video card and it can so can the motherboard its an AMD atholon XP. I have practicly tried everything to c y the screen wont turn on. The screen will turn on without the video card inside the computer. But when i tried to put my old one back in the screen still wont come up but the computer is running. I dont know if its AGP slot itself that is broken or if its something else :/. Yes ive tried the hard drives, ram, floppy drive, cd drive to c if its the problem but its not. I have pinpointed down that its something to do with the AGP slot. I tried the ATI All in wonder in a different computer and it ran great. So... anyone have any ideas.

**Cellus** · 10-23-2006, 10:34 PM

You seem to have narrowed it down quite well, good job. Do you have a spare AGP video card (any) to confirm your theory with the AGP slot?

Jord2 · 10-23-2006, 10:48 PM

Yes i put my old AGP video card back in (which still works) and the same thing happend. So... do you think if i replace the AGP slot with a new one it will work? Iam just worrying if its not that because my friend said it might be the CPU. which i doupt... because the video card is compatable with it. :/ O ya I also tried a bigger power supply but that wasnt it. :/ I want to know how come it stoped working. I still havent figured that out because it worked a full day after the power surge...then the next morning the screen wouldnt go on but the computer is running. Iam wondering if i can VNC the computer with the video card in it to see if i would be able to see the screen.

**Fr4665** · 10-24-2006, 06:38 AM

1. u cant replace the AGP slot todo that u need to get a new motherboard
2. it could be the cpu but i doubt it.
3. reset the CMOS on the motherboard and make sure the external power connector to the x800 is connected. since u tried with another video card and it didnt work im guesstimating that something besides the video card is messed up. the motherboard is a gig chance

tomthetechy · 10-24-2006, 07:17 AM

It is the CPU. Everyone makes the same mistake. Trust me.

Jord2 · 10-24-2006, 06:08 PM

Ok.. well thx guys ill have to try that.

**Doby** · 10-24-2006, 08:30 PM

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The screen will turn on without the video card inside the computer

Does this mean you have onboard video and the computer works normally when connected to the onboard?

If the computer works normally when connected to the onboard then its not the cpu! or am I missing something?

Jord2 · 10-27-2006, 04:38 PM

Yes it works with the onboard video card

**Doby** · 10-27-2006, 08:42 PM

Well seeing as the computer with the video card worked prior to the power surge and it works with the onboard it must be one of two things,,,,

The surge killed the video card, try it in another compatible computer.

Or the surge somehow weakend the power supply where it is not producing the requirerd amps to power the card, this is the least likely but a possibility

Jord2 · 10-29-2006, 01:03 AM

I tried putting it in another computer and it works... And I ave tried a new power supply also which had 600W or something. I had tried reseting the cmos also, didnt work... Iam not sure what could be confiliciting with the video card do you think its the motherboard or the cpu?

mscott2273 · 10-29-2006, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Doby

If the computer works normally when connected to the onboard then its not the cpu! or am I missing something?

I agree. If the CPU had failed, the POST cycle would not complete because the CPU is not communicating with the MB. And you said that the AIW X800 worked in another PC, so its likely the AGP slot.

**Doby** · 10-29-2006, 05:30 PM

mscott2273 could be right about the agp slot but before you give up on the motherboard try the video card again and this 600W psu, tells us the brand and model number.

If this psu came with a case or is a cheap generic brand testing with it is inconclusive

Jord2 · 10-29-2006, 05:37 PM

whoops nvm it was a generic case power supply and it was 450watts

**Doby** · 10-29-2006, 05:48 PM

Yea with that in there its hard to tell, see if you can barrow a good psu to try or go to a store like best buy and check there return policy, you maybe able to purchsae a good psu and return it if it don't work out

Jord2 · 10-29-2006, 10:04 PM

Ok i tried the old video card in there(i think i said this before)but the same thing happend the screen didnt turn on. I dont think its the power supply becuase the old video card wasnt that great. :/ so what do you think now?

**Doby** · 10-30-2006, 06:25 PM

With that result it does look like the agp slot on the board is bad,if this is the case you will have to replace the motherboard or live with the onboard

Jord2 · 10-30-2006, 08:59 PM

Well thx people. Now iam 99% sure its the motherboard. Ya most thx goes to Doby for helping me out all the way. But ya my parents cant live with the onboard. They say hurry up and fix it XD. Now ill just tell them to get a new motherboard. So ya thx for the help.

**Doby** · 10-30-2006, 09:20 PM

Your welcome and keep us posted, good luck!

10-23-2006, 08:53 PM	#1 (permalink)
Jord2 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 9 OS: XP	Computer screen wont turn on with video card Hello everyone. I have a question my parents computer screen wont turn on with the ATI All in wonder X800(AGP). It worked for like 3 days(with the new video card) then I was having a LAN party at my house and we had a power surge and when we got power the computer still worked for that day but then the next day the screen wouldnt turn on. And yes i checked if the CPU can handle the video card and it can so can the motherboard its an AMD atholon XP. I have practicly tried everything to c y the screen wont turn on. The screen will turn on without the video card inside the computer. But when i tried to put my old one back in the screen still wont come up but the computer is running. I dont know if its AGP slot itself that is broken or if its something else :/. Yes ive tried the hard drives, ram, floppy drive, cd drive to c if its the problem but its not. I have pinpointed down that its something to do with the AGP slot. I tried the ATI All in wonder in a different computer and it ran great. So... anyone have any ideas.

10-23-2006, 10:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
Cellus Moderator Networking Team Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2,664 OS: Windows Vista Business SP1, Windows XP Professional SP3 My System	You seem to have narrowed it down quite well, good job. Do you have a spare AGP video card (any) to confirm your theory with the AGP slot? __________________ TSF Networking Team Virus/Trojan/Spyware Removal Help Donate!

10-24-2006, 06:38 AM	#4 (permalink)
Fr4665 aka mr.fraggs Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA or Germany Posts: 2,965 OS: Win XP,Vista,Android My System	1. u cant replace the AGP slot todo that u need to get a new motherboard 2. it could be the cpu but i doubt it. 3. reset the CMOS on the motherboard and make sure the external power connector to the x800 is connected. since u tried with another video card and it didnt work im guesstimating that something besides the video card is messed up. the motherboard is a gig chance __________________ I don't subscribe to threads please PM me if i miss a reply. ------- Everest SensorView Pro DriverCleaner how to fix your game

10-27-2006, 08:42 PM	#9 (permalink)
Doby Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Central PA (USA) Posts: 8,111 OS: XP sp2/ Vista My System	Well seeing as the computer with the video card worked prior to the power surge and it works with the onboard it must be one of two things,,,, The surge killed the video card, try it in another compatible computer. Or the surge somehow weakend the power supply where it is not producing the requirerd amps to power the card, this is the least likely but a possibility __________________ Would you like to help TSF fight cancer and other diseases??? JOIN TEAM TSF

10-29-2006, 05:30 PM	#12 (permalink)
Doby Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Central PA (USA) Posts: 8,111 OS: XP sp2/ Vista My System	mscott2273 could be right about the agp slot but before you give up on the motherboard try the video card again and this 600W psu, tells us the brand and model number. If this psu came with a case or is a cheap generic brand testing with it is inconclusive __________________ Would you like to help TSF fight cancer and other diseases??? JOIN TEAM TSF

10-23-2006, 10:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
Jord2 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 9 OS: XP	Yes i put my old AGP video card back in (which still works) and the same thing happend. So... do you think if i replace the AGP slot with a new one it will work? Iam just worrying if its not that because my friend said it might be the CPU. which i doupt... because the video card is compatable with it. :/ O ya I also tried a bigger power supply but that wasnt it. :/ I want to know how come it stoped working. I still havent figured that out because it worked a full day after the power surge...then the next morning the screen wouldnt go on but the computer is running. Iam wondering if i can VNC the computer with the video card in it to see if i would be able to see the screen.

10-24-2006, 07:17 AM	#5 (permalink)
tomthetechy Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: uk nuneaton Posts: 3 OS: xp	It is the CPU. Everyone makes the same mistake. Trust me.

10-24-2006, 06:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
Jord2 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 9 OS: XP	Ok.. well thx guys ill have to try that.

10-27-2006, 04:38 PM	#8 (permalink)
Jord2 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 9 OS: XP	Yes it works with the onboard video card

10-29-2006, 01:03 AM	#10 (permalink)
Jord2 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 9 OS: XP	I tried putting it in another computer and it works... And I ave tried a new power supply also which had 600W or something. I had tried reseting the cmos also, didnt work... Iam not sure what could be confiliciting with the video card do you think its the motherboard or the cpu?

10-29-2006, 05:37 PM	#13 (permalink)
Jord2 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 9 OS: XP	whoops nvm it was a generic case power supply and it was 450watts

10-29-2006, 05:48 PM	#14 (permalink)
Doby Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Central PA (USA) Posts: 8,111 OS: XP sp2/ Vista My System	Yea with that in there its hard to tell, see if you can barrow a good psu to try or go to a store like best buy and check there return policy, you maybe able to purchsae a good psu and return it if it don't work out __________________ Would you like to help TSF fight cancer and other diseases??? JOIN TEAM TSF

10-29-2006, 10:04 PM	#15 (permalink)
Jord2 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 9 OS: XP	Ok i tried the old video card in there(i think i said this before)but the same thing happend the screen didnt turn on. I dont think its the power supply becuase the old video card wasnt that great. :/ so what do you think now?

10-30-2006, 06:25 PM	#16 (permalink)
Doby Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Central PA (USA) Posts: 8,111 OS: XP sp2/ Vista My System	With that result it does look like the agp slot on the board is bad,if this is the case you will have to replace the motherboard or live with the onboard __________________ Would you like to help TSF fight cancer and other diseases??? JOIN TEAM TSF

10-30-2006, 08:59 PM	#17 (permalink)
Jord2 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 9 OS: XP	Well thx people. Now iam 99% sure its the motherboard. Ya most thx goes to Doby for helping me out all the way. But ya my parents cant live with the onboard. They say hurry up and fix it XD. Now ill just tell them to get a new motherboard. So ya thx for the help.

10-30-2006, 09:20 PM	#18 (permalink)
Doby Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Central PA (USA) Posts: 8,111 OS: XP sp2/ Vista My System	Your welcome and keep us posted, good luck! __________________ Would you like to help TSF fight cancer and other diseases??? JOIN TEAM TSF