graphics problem

sycko · 06-27-2006, 12:27 PM

06-06-06_17-04.jpg
i am having graphic problems and i cant understand what the problem is!
i get this distorted graphics when playing any games(including oblivion in the pic)
also the grahpics on the desktop and general applications become slightly distorted
dont know if its graphics card,ram or driver problem or how to find out
can anyone help?

my system stats are:

win xp
amd athlon 64 3.0
asus k8v se dx
ati radeon 9800 pro
1024 ram
80g/b h/d
sb audigy 2 zs
nec dvd rw
flat screen d/f monitor

dai · 06-27-2006, 01:00 PM

what power supply are you using
try reinstalling the driver
see if anything here helps
http://www.tweakguides.com/ATICAT_1.html

sycko · 06-27-2006, 01:04 PM

i am using a 450wt power sulpy!

thanks mods for moving the post

dai · 06-27-2006, 01:11 PM

you would expect to find a quality 550w in this system,what brand is it and how many amps does it list on the 12v+ line
see if you can borrow a larger supply to try in it
check what the voltage readings are in the power section of the bios and with speedfan
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download337.html
and post the results

ebackhus · 06-27-2006, 01:21 PM

I see two immediate problems. The larger off-color rectangles are an issue with the VRAM. The small blocks running diagonally point to bad pixel pipelines. These problems may both be because of heat buildup. Try running your PC with the side open and a small fan blowing over the hardware.

sycko · 06-27-2006, 01:21 PM

ok i will try that tomorow!
i have had this sytem for a few years now and its only just started doing this,could this still be the power sulpy?
the brand is mercury

dai · 06-27-2006, 01:28 PM

what are the line readings from the lable on the side
mercury gives no details on their specs,usually a good indication it is low quality

**gamerman0203** · 06-28-2006, 11:02 AM

dai and ebackhus beat me to it. Heat would be my first concern. Power supply might also be to blame because of it's low quality.

sycko · 07-03-2006, 04:49 AM

hi dai
the power supply is a hiper 420w and it has 18a under the 12+
i have tried it will the side off and the tower laid on its side and i still get the same result

the blocks just seem to come and go at random times! one minute its ok then its not then its ok again?
its got me beat

**koala** · 07-03-2006, 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sycko

the blocks just seem to come and go at random times! one minute its ok then its not then its ok again?

I had a similar problem recently with an overheated Radeon 9800. To confirm it's damaged VRAM/pipelines, change the resolution and colors (16/32 bit) to see if the blocks pattern changes. On mine at 1024x768 32bit color I got 4 vertical bars of flickering lines, and at 800x600 16bit I got blocks similar to yours.

dai · 07-03-2006, 10:55 AM

the specs list it as 16a on the 12v line,see if you can borrow a larger quality supply to try in it 500w+

sycko · 07-24-2006, 07:36 AM

i still havnt managed to get hold of a larger power suply but i have noticed that if i run the pc with the side open i dont get half the problem! so it must be heat build up with the weather and all!
i shall look into getting a new case with a larger power suply and larger fans or maybe some cooler system! any ideas guys?

and thanx alot 4 all the posts guys

dai · 07-24-2006, 11:00 AM

get a can of air and blow the dust out of the computer
you need a fan low down on the front pulling the cool air in
afan high on the rear exhausting the hot air

-d- · 07-24-2006, 11:02 AM

My cousin has this exact card, and a similar problem. Did you or anyone oveclock the Video card? If so, that may be causing the heatups and problems. Get some cooling in there-->

www.tigerdirect.com

sycko · 07-25-2006, 11:06 AM

no mate never over clocked the card or cpu!! i dont even know how

sycko · 09-03-2006, 05:56 AM

right im going to drag this one out from under the carpet again

!!!!!
altho my system is exactly the same as when i 1st posted this error i am still getting a niglin little problem!
i couldnt try i a new power suply cos my nearest computer trader has gone bust so i would have had to order one online and to be honest i cant afford it at the mo!
so i took all my cards out and reseated the graph card and vacumed all the dust out the system and then the games( oblivion/cod2 ) worked fine with no problems!
anywayz last month a get me a virus and had to eventually flatten the h/d and reinstall o/s and all my progs games ect ect!
now even tho the screen isnt half as bad as it was when i posted the problem i do still keep getting flashes of graphic distortion every so often but it only stays on 4 a sec or 2 then its back to normal!

even tho i can still play games with this iw ill still like to get to the bottom of this problem? its a strange one
sycko

dai · 09-03-2006, 11:13 AM

check your tempretures when you are gaming this will allow you to see them onscreen
http://www.stvsoft.com/

Diamondsleeper · 09-05-2006, 07:22 AM

Vacuming may not be enough. I use a real air compressor to blow my system out completely. That means the power supply too. If you can do that then run the system with the cover off and a fan blowing into your computer. That should tell you if temperature is the issue or not. I suspect your PSU or a combination of your PSU and temp if not the card itself.

sycko · 10-02-2006, 12:38 PM

same problem different system!
well i say different system but listen
i got an upgrade and after getting my graph card that i had this bother with tested at my local pc shop and them saying it was fine, i sold it to my brother along with the cpu,ram,and psu bcos he had a new board and wanted my parts!
anywayz he rings me tonight explaining the exact same problems i had been having earlier!
so it is now either ram psu or graph card!
whats it more likely to be?
i say psu or g/c

dai · 10-02-2006, 12:44 PM

include the drivers

06-27-2006, 12:27 PM	#1 (permalink)
sycko Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: leeds, england Posts: 177 OS: Vista ultimate My System	graphics problem 06-06-06_17-04.jpg i am having graphic problems and i cant understand what the problem is! i get this distorted graphics when playing any games(including oblivion in the pic) also the grahpics on the desktop and general applications become slightly distorted dont know if its graphics card,ram or driver problem or how to find out can anyone help? my system stats are: win xp amd athlon 64 3.0 asus k8v se dx ati radeon 9800 pro 1024 ram 80g/b h/d sb audigy 2 zs nec dvd rw flat screen d/f monitor Last edited by sycko; 06-27-2006 at 12:32 PM.

06-27-2006, 01:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,797 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	what power supply are you using try reinstalling the driver see if anything here helps http://www.tweakguides.com/ATICAT_1.html __________________

06-27-2006, 01:11 PM	#4 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,797 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	you would expect to find a quality 550w in this system,what brand is it and how many amps does it list on the 12v+ line see if you can borrow a larger supply to try in it check what the voltage readings are in the power section of the bios and with speedfan http://www.majorgeeks.com/download337.html and post the results __________________

06-27-2006, 01:21 PM	#5 (permalink)
ebackhus Manager, Design Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: SATX Posts: 14,341 OS: WinXP Pro SP3/Windows 7 RTM My System Blog Entries: 28	I see two immediate problems. The larger off-color rectangles are an issue with the VRAM. The small blocks running diagonally point to bad pixel pipelines. These problems may both be because of heat buildup. Try running your PC with the side open and a small fan blowing over the hardware. __________________ ----------------------------- There are no dumb questions, unless a customer is asking them. Help in the fight against cancer and other serious illnesses.

06-27-2006, 01:28 PM	#7 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,797 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	what are the line readings from the lable on the side mercury gives no details on their specs,usually a good indication it is low quality __________________

06-27-2006, 01:04 PM	#3 (permalink)
sycko Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: leeds, england Posts: 177 OS: Vista ultimate My System	i am using a 450wt power sulpy! thanks mods for moving the post

06-27-2006, 01:21 PM	#6 (permalink)
sycko Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: leeds, england Posts: 177 OS: Vista ultimate My System	ok i will try that tomorow! i have had this sytem for a few years now and its only just started doing this,could this still be the power sulpy? the brand is mercury

06-28-2006, 11:02 AM	#8 (permalink)
gamerman0203 Retired Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 2,144 OS: XP MCE, Ubuntu Gutsy My System	dai and ebackhus beat me to it. Heat would be my first concern. Power supply might also be to blame because of it's low quality. __________________ Follow These Steps First! CPU-Z \| SensorView \| WinXP Clean Boot \| Latest DirectX \| ATI Catalyst \| Nvidia ForceWare Posting System Specifications

07-03-2006, 04:49 AM	#9 (permalink)
sycko Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: leeds, england Posts: 177 OS: Vista ultimate My System	hi dai the power supply is a hiper 420w and it has 18a under the 12+ i have tried it will the side off and the tower laid on its side and i still get the same result the blocks just seem to come and go at random times! one minute its ok then its not then its ok again? its got me beat

07-03-2006, 10:55 AM	#11 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,797 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	the specs list it as 16a on the 12v line,see if you can borrow a larger quality supply to try in it 500w+ __________________

07-24-2006, 07:36 AM	#12 (permalink)
sycko Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: leeds, england Posts: 177 OS: Vista ultimate My System	i still havnt managed to get hold of a larger power suply but i have noticed that if i run the pc with the side open i dont get half the problem! so it must be heat build up with the weather and all! i shall look into getting a new case with a larger power suply and larger fans or maybe some cooler system! any ideas guys? and thanx alot 4 all the posts guys Last edited by sycko; 07-24-2006 at 07:37 AM.

07-24-2006, 11:00 AM	#13 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,797 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	get a can of air and blow the dust out of the computer you need a fan low down on the front pulling the cool air in afan high on the rear exhausting the hot air __________________

07-24-2006, 11:02 AM	#14 (permalink)
-d- Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Markham ON Posts: 190 OS: Windows XP SP2 My System	My cousin has this exact card, and a similar problem. Did you or anyone oveclock the Video card? If so, that may be causing the heatups and problems. Get some cooling in there--> www.tigerdirect.com

07-25-2006, 11:06 AM	#15 (permalink)
sycko Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: leeds, england Posts: 177 OS: Vista ultimate My System	no mate never over clocked the card or cpu!! i dont even know how

09-03-2006, 05:56 AM	#16 (permalink)
sycko Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: leeds, england Posts: 177 OS: Vista ultimate My System	right im going to drag this one out from under the carpet again !!!!! altho my system is exactly the same as when i 1st posted this error i am still getting a niglin little problem! i couldnt try i a new power suply cos my nearest computer trader has gone bust so i would have had to order one online and to be honest i cant afford it at the mo! so i took all my cards out and reseated the graph card and vacumed all the dust out the system and then the games( oblivion/cod2 ) worked fine with no problems! anywayz last month a get me a virus and had to eventually flatten the h/d and reinstall o/s and all my progs games ect ect! now even tho the screen isnt half as bad as it was when i posted the problem i do still keep getting flashes of graphic distortion every so often but it only stays on 4 a sec or 2 then its back to normal! even tho i can still play games with this iw ill still like to get to the bottom of this problem? its a strange one sycko

09-03-2006, 11:13 AM	#17 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,797 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	check your tempretures when you are gaming this will allow you to see them onscreen http://www.stvsoft.com/ __________________

09-05-2006, 07:22 AM	#18 (permalink)
Diamondsleeper Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Memphis, TN Area Posts: 69 OS: XP Pro 32 bit My System	Vacuming may not be enough. I use a real air compressor to blow my system out completely. That means the power supply too. If you can do that then run the system with the cover off and a fan blowing into your computer. That should tell you if temperature is the issue or not. I suspect your PSU or a combination of your PSU and temp if not the card itself. Last edited by Diamondsleeper; 09-05-2006 at 07:26 AM.

10-02-2006, 12:38 PM	#19 (permalink)
sycko Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: leeds, england Posts: 177 OS: Vista ultimate My System	same problem different system! well i say different system but listen i got an upgrade and after getting my graph card that i had this bother with tested at my local pc shop and them saying it was fine, i sold it to my brother along with the cpu,ram,and psu bcos he had a new board and wanted my parts! anywayz he rings me tonight explaining the exact same problems i had been having earlier! so it is now either ram psu or graph card! whats it more likely to be? i say psu or g/c __________________ sycko

10-02-2006, 12:44 PM	#20 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,797 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	include the drivers __________________