##Issues with X-FI Xtreme Gamer and ATIKMDAG ##

warrenjackson · 08-06-2009, 05:08 AM

So i buy myself a new sound card from creative and install it onto my pc. Everything is great until i try to play games. First it was BSOD but thats stopped happening after many updates etc. now it seems that ATIKMDAG (ATi Driver) stops responding and recovers in my games. Anyone else had this problem before? and how can i fix it :)

Removing the soundcard resolves the problem btw :S

# X-FI Xtreme Gamer # ATi HD4850 # AMD Phenom X4 9850 (BE) # 2x1GB OCZ 800MHz ram # GA-MA790X-DS4 #

Phædrus2401 · 08-06-2009, 12:21 PM

I told you, I'm 90% sure it's your PSU. Driver conflicts just don't cause those types of problem, and you have a crap PSU.

warrenjackson · 08-07-2009, 04:06 AM

But the thing is it doesnt happen with every game :S even though the same power is drawn, also there are no more BSOD's just the TDR in vista keeps restarting my graphics drivers

~~zerofire~~ · 08-10-2009, 09:23 PM

What is your power supply?

warrenjackson · 08-11-2009, 04:16 AM

My power supply is a "trust 520W", i have found that swapping the 6pin pci-Express connector from the power supply with a converter from a 4pin peripheral to 6pin pci-e and removing a hdd resolves this problem (slightly) still GRID doesnt work on windows 7 (RC, x64) though, maybe because it needs more power?

# X-FI Xtreme Gamer # ATi HD4850 # AMD Phenom X4 9850 (BE) # 2x1GB OCZ 800MHz ram # GA-MA790X-DS4 #

~~zerofire~~ · 08-11-2009, 10:42 AM

I would have to agree with Phædrus2401. Your power supply is a problem. Trust is not considered a quality power supply manufacturer. The power supply is probably most similar to a 280w quality unit. Also the ATi Radeon HD series has a dedicated driver for the HDMI audio so that is most likely conflicting with the sound card. You should set the Creative X-Fi card as the active card and leave the HDMI driver deactivated.

Riskyone101 · 08-11-2009, 05:33 PM

I happen to agree with "phaedrus2401" on the PSU.

You need to be here 600 watts:

Corsair 650 watt:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139005

OCZ 600 watt:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817341017

Here are 2 suggestions I found for a decent price for what you get.
These are 2 good quality PSU`s here, corsairs are known to run quiet.

08-06-2009, 05:08 AM	#1 (permalink)
warrenjackson Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 28 OS: XP SP3/Vista SP1/Win7 RC1	##Issues with X-FI Xtreme Gamer and ATIKMDAG ## So i buy myself a new sound card from creative and install it onto my pc. Everything is great until i try to play games. First it was BSOD but thats stopped happening after many updates etc. now it seems that ATIKMDAG (ATi Driver) stops responding and recovers in my games. Anyone else had this problem before? and how can i fix it :) Removing the soundcard resolves the problem btw :S # X-FI Xtreme Gamer # ATi HD4850 # AMD Phenom X4 9850 (BE) # 2x1GB OCZ 800MHz ram # GA-MA790X-DS4 #

08-06-2009, 12:21 PM	#2 (permalink)
Phædrus2401 Hardware Tech Team Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Orleans Posts: 3,839 OS: Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 + Ubuntu 9.04 My System	Re: ##Issues with X-FI Xtreme Gamer and ATIKMDAG ## I told you, I'm 90% sure it's your PSU. Driver conflicts just don't cause those types of problem, and you have a crap PSU. __________________ Good PSU brands: Corsair, SeaSonic, CWT, PC Power and Cooling, Thermaltake Toughpower, CoolerMaster Real Power Pro On 80+ Certification - PSU Information and Selection - Power Supply Myths You don't get what you don't pay for.

08-07-2009, 04:06 AM	#3 (permalink)
warrenjackson Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 28 OS: XP SP3/Vista SP1/Win7 RC1	Re: ##Issues with X-FI Xtreme Gamer and ATIKMDAG ## But the thing is it doesnt happen with every game :S even though the same power is drawn, also there are no more BSOD's just the TDR in vista keeps restarting my graphics drivers

08-10-2009, 09:23 PM	#4 (permalink)
~~zerofire~~ Troubled Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: United States Posts: 637 OS: Windows 95/98se/2000 Pro/XP Home, Pro, or MCE/2003 and 2008 Server Enterprise/7, Debian, Ubuntu My System	Re: ##Issues with X-FI Xtreme Gamer and ATIKMDAG ## What is your power supply?

08-11-2009, 04:16 AM	#5 (permalink)
warrenjackson Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 28 OS: XP SP3/Vista SP1/Win7 RC1	Re: ##Issues with X-FI Xtreme Gamer and ATIKMDAG ## My power supply is a "trust 520W", i have found that swapping the 6pin pci-Express connector from the power supply with a converter from a 4pin peripheral to 6pin pci-e and removing a hdd resolves this problem (slightly) still GRID doesnt work on windows 7 (RC, x64) though, maybe because it needs more power? # X-FI Xtreme Gamer # ATi HD4850 # AMD Phenom X4 9850 (BE) # 2x1GB OCZ 800MHz ram # GA-MA790X-DS4 #

08-11-2009, 10:42 AM	#6 (permalink)
~~zerofire~~ Troubled Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: United States Posts: 637 OS: Windows 95/98se/2000 Pro/XP Home, Pro, or MCE/2003 and 2008 Server Enterprise/7, Debian, Ubuntu My System	Re: ##Issues with X-FI Xtreme Gamer and ATIKMDAG ## I would have to agree with Phædrus2401. Your power supply is a problem. Trust is not considered a quality power supply manufacturer. The power supply is probably most similar to a 280w quality unit. Also the ATi Radeon HD series has a dedicated driver for the HDMI audio so that is most likely conflicting with the sound card. You should set the Creative X-Fi card as the active card and leave the HDMI driver deactivated. Last edited by zerofire; 08-11-2009 at 10:46 AM.

08-11-2009, 05:33 PM	#7 (permalink)
Riskyone101 Tech Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Chicago, IL. Posts: 3,777 OS: XP Pro SP3, MCE 2005 sp3, Vista Ultimate SP2, Windows 7 Ultimate My System	Re: ##Issues with X-FI Xtreme Gamer and ATIKMDAG ## I happen to agree with "phaedrus2401" on the PSU. You need to be here 600 watts: Corsair 650 watt: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139005 OCZ 600 watt: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817341017 Here are 2 suggestions I found for a decent price for what you get. These are 2 good quality PSU`s here, corsairs are known to run quiet. __________________