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Old 02-24-2007, 06:59 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Recording cassettes to wav files

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(Not sure if I'm in the right forum, but if not, please let me know!)

I'm a retired classical musician and have some 300+ cassette tapes to convert to wav files.

This is a big project, and it would help a lot to use a tape recorder with auto-reverse so as not to have to stop each time and flip the tapes.

BUT, the problem with my cassette deck is that it doesn't stop after side B, but goes back to side A again and goes on and on in a continuous loop.

Is there a solution to that in order to make this huge job a little easier?

One idea I have is to put the cassette deck on a timer and switch off the power after a certain number of minutes. But would this damage the player? Is there a more elegant way?

Or is there perhaps another tape deck out there somewhere that stops by itself after playing 2 sides?

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Old 02-24-2007, 08:55 AM   #2 (permalink)
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See if this thread helps. It is for the Plusdeck tape converter ($130)

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It's now incredibly easy to convert your old cassette tapes to MP3 or WAV files. Transfer those motivational speaker tapes, your old cassette music collection, or your children's educational tapes into a permanent digital record. This fantastic Plus Deck 2 Tape-RW drive also provides many other useful features: listen to books on tape on your computer; record mp3 or other sound files onto cassette tapes; convert cassette tapes into digital format and save them on your PC or CD.

Plays and records with Auto Reverse.
You say you want to save your tape recordings as WAV files. This will take a lot of storage space. If you save the files as 256kb MP3s the quality will be the same as for WAV but the filesize will be about 10 times smaller.
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Thanks for the info

Thanks for the reply.

I am a musician, as I said before, and I can hear the difference between those compressed mp3 files and wav files, and I prefer the latter. But you mention that there is a 256kb compression. What is that? If there are different types of mp3 files maybe I haven't chosen the right setting?

Another issue: if I make mp3 files, will they play on a home stereo? That's what I'm trying to do.

The last stumbling block for me is the tape player. It won't stop after playing the entire tape, but goes into a continuous loop. If I could fix that, the process would be neat.

Thanks for any suggestions.

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When you record an MP3 you can set it to 128 (tape quality), 192, 256 or 320 (CD quality). I'm also a musician and can't tell the difference between a WAV and a 320 MP3, but if you prefer to use WAVs that will be ok.

You can burn music files (either WAV or MP3) to CD and they will play on your home stereo. Just remember to 'finalize' the CD in the burning software settings otherwise it won't work.

I haven't used the Plusdeck, but I imagine it will stop after autoreversing, or there will be options to set how it behaves. You could also use an ordinary tape deck with auto-reverse and stop, connected to the line-in on your sound card, and record the tapes into Audacity as WAV, MP3 or OGG.
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Recording cassettes to wav files

Thanks very much for the information! I didn't have a clue about various qualities of mp3 files. I should certainly try the 320!

The tape deck I have is a SONY and it is beautiful. But it goes into continuous loop, so that you can Beethoven's 5th five times, and then you have to go to your recording software and edit out all the repetitions.

An alternative might be to put a timer on the tape deck that would turn off the power at some specified length of time. Would that damage the tape? Or the player?

Thank you very much!

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Do you know which software you will be using to record from the tapes? If it's Audacity, you can set it to record for a set time and then stop. I don't know how useful this would be for you though, the tape would still carry on switching from side A to side B, but at least you would only record A and B once.

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1. If there are no tracks yet, choose New Audio Track from the Project menu. (This is necessary because the zoom and selection controls won't work without a track.)
2. Zoom Out until you can see the total time you want to record (e.g. 1:00:00 for a one-hour recording).
3. Position the cursor at the desired stop time, and then choose Select: Start to Cursor from the Edit menu (or hold down shift while pressing the "Skip to Start" button).
4. Press Record. The recording will stop when it reaches the end of the selected area.
A timer that cuts off power to the tape deck while it's operating could possibly damage the heads or the tape if you do it too often, but it's worth a try.
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Hello!

Thanks very much for this!

Actually, I have just been talking with a friend about this same thing. He probably doesn't know as much about this as you, but he suggested I just put the cassette deck on a cut-off switch, so that, say, after 60 or 70 minutes the power is cut off.

I do have audacity, but what I am using here is DAK. And it has a timer, so it will stop recording at a pre-set time. Also, I went to the configuration tab in the software and switched to 320kb. It was set at 128kb. I gather you would think this would give a much better recording?

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Yes, 320 will retain all the sound frequencies, the same as a CD. 128 will filter some frequencies out, supposedly the ones we can't hear. But, as you've discovered, the sound quality is noticeably lower at 128.
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Thanks again. I guess I'm all set. The only question I have now is if the switch that cuts off the power from the cassette deck will do any harm or damage to the deck, or to the cassette inside it.
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If you cut off the power to the deck while it is playing, the heads might get damaged, but I don't know how many cut-offs it would take for any real permanent damage to occur.

If it's a cherished, expensive tape deck, you might be better getting a cheap one with the autoreverse and autostop features and a line-out connector.

Let us know how you get on with your project
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Hi, I guess the thing to do is one side at a time. Then there will be two sound files (one for each side), but it must be possible to paste the two together when I'm all done? (I've never tried that).
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Yes, you can import the second file into the first file in your audio editor. It will be placed at the end of the timeline.

Then you can zoom in on any area where there are gaps you want to remove, highlight the gap and click delete. When this is complete you can also use the graphic equalizer or built-in filters to clean the sound of any tape hiss or clicks.

The finished result will be saved as one long file (remember to make a backup save at this point), but you can split it into individual songs if you like and save each as a separate file.

I've never used DAK, but it should have all the features you need.
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Many thanks. I'm working on it now.
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