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Old 05-11-2009, 10:18 AM   #1 (permalink)
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[SOLVED] Lite-On DVD-ROM (Internal) Installation WEIRDNESS

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Last night I installed a Lite-On DVD-ROM Drive in one of the 5-1/4" bays on my recording studio's audio workstation (an ADK Core2). My ribbon cable wasn't long enough (they never are), so I went to Micro Center for a cable upgrade.

I already had a Plextor Premium CD-RW installed at the end of the cable, for burning CD-A's, so I placed the Lite-On DVD-ROM at the middle. BOTH drives are jumpered to 'Cable Select' (I think...it's been awhile on the Plextor...but I'm certain about the Lite-On).

So I fire up the PC this morning…it recognizes the drive…installs the appropriate Windows whatever…tells me the new hardware is ready to go…& I try to install my new recording software w/ the new DVD-ROM, Cubase 5. This is what I get:



At first, I thought it was because this software requires a dongle to operate. So I popped that in a USB port…but the same thing happened (then, I realized this should not be a requirement because the iLok software has to be installed somehow…in this case, the manual tells me from Cubase 5’s installation DVD).

So, to troubleshoot the problem, I threw another DVD-based program in the Lite-On. The drive read THIS particular app’s install folders & executable file perfectly.

To further troubleshoot the problem (this time checking the install disk itself), I fired up my external DVD-RW (a Plextor PX-750UF) via USB. I put the Cubase install disk in that drive…& it read it…the installation folders & *.exe popped right up…!!!

So…what could be wrong:

The Cubase Installation DVD is apparently OK…it works fine in a different drive.

The Lite-On reads other DVD’s…but not the Cubase install disk.

If my cabling or jumper positions were incorrect in the box…the two drives (CD-RW & DVD-ROM) wouldn’t be recognized or wouldn’t work, right? (I did notice that my 'BIOS' & 'System Info' has the Lite-On listed as a CD-ROM…but 'Windows Explorer' & 'Device Manager' recognize it as what it is, right down to the mfg).

I’m not getting this…could it be that the Lite-On doesn’t recognize DVDs that contain iLok protection ??? (but that question doesn’t make sense, either).

Clueless here…could use some help…thanks,


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btw - just now tried that disk on the internal DVD-RW on my office machine (a Compaq SR5610F I use for the internet...had to get my iLok code for Cubase via that machine). Works OK on that drive, as well. weird.
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Old 05-11-2009, 10:32 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Lite-On DVD-ROM (Internal) Installation WEIRDNESS

Verify the jumpers, they can have some weird behavior on opticals. Both should either be CS or hard set to master/slave
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Old 05-11-2009, 01:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Lite-On DVD-ROM (Internal) Installation WEIRDNESS

UPDATE:

I opened up the audio box to check the jumper config. The Plextor was set to Master & the Lite-On was set to Cable Select. I changed the Plextor to Cable Select (to match the Lite-On)...but that didn't make any difference.


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Re: Lite-On DVD-ROM (Internal) Installation WEIRDNESS

Try making it master on the plextor and slave on the Lite-on. Also is this original media, or a burned backup copy?
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Re: Lite-On DVD-ROM (Internal) Installation WEIRDNESS

They must be Master-Slave or both set to CS.
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Re: Lite-On DVD-ROM (Internal) Installation WEIRDNESS

well I guess Tyree answered this next question, but...

tried to install a virtrual instrument library w/ that drive...it was actually a re-install...& it was taking twice as long as I had remembered (installing the same library via my Plextor external).

So...out it came from the box...& into the trash it went.

now...I was going to order a Plextor PX-806SA from Amazon...but the advertisement header read: Plextor PX-806SA 22X by LITE-ON IT...!!!

Do you mean to tell me that Plextor is now owned by Lite-On Corp...???

Can someone recommend me a quality DVD-ROM for my audio workstation...I only want to be able to install programs on DVDs...that's it...but I'd like it to be a quality peice of gear.

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btw - the question was going to be...what jumper config provides for better drive performance...'Master/Slave' or 'Cable Select' (or doesn't it matter) ???
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Re: Lite-On DVD-ROM (Internal) Installation WEIRDNESS

Shouldn't matter, although the next step would have been to reverse teh drives in master slave configuration..
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Old 05-11-2009, 06:26 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Lite-On DVD-ROM (Internal) Installation WEIRDNESS

liteon used to manufacture 70% of drives and companies used to re-badge them

i have always found them reliable

try a new 80 wire ide cable

dvd on the end plug jumpered as master

cd to the middle jumpered as slave

check the bios is set to detect as cdrom and not to auto detect
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Re: Lite-On DVD-ROM (Internal) Installation WEIRDNESS

dai...

that drive SHOULD have played the disk in question...it played OTHER disks. if the jumper config was bad it wouldn't have played the other disks.

reliable? poopah


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Re: Lite-On DVD-ROM (Internal) Installation WEIRDNESS

check for a firmware update for the drive
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Re: Lite-On DVD-ROM (Internal) Installation WEIRDNESS

they didn't even list the model number on their website (Lite-On)
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what is the model number
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Re: Lite-On DVD-ROM (Internal) Installation WEIRDNESS

Quote:
what is the model number?
XJ-HD163

doesn't matter tho now, dai...the garbage man is gone.

I'm wondering if I can somehow get my Plextor PX-750UF out of it's external casing & install that bad boy in a 5-1/4" bay. that machine works like a charm.

thanks,


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Re: Lite-On DVD-ROM (Internal) Installation WEIRDNESS

XJ-HD163 would be six yrs old now

see if this gives you how

http://www.retrevo.com/search?q=Plextor+PX-750UF&rt=pd
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Re: Lite-On DVD-ROM (Internal) Installation WEIRDNESS

done...external drive stripped from it's case & in the machine...peice of cake...works fantastic... !!!...(jumpered both drives as Cable Select)...problem solved. (I was only using the external drive on my audio machine anyway...via USB of course. so now, it's in that machine & can be used to burn DVD-A's & install software & my workflow is now much more...flowier).

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glad you have it sorted
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