CoL2k3

Hello and thanks in advance for your time and replies,

i recently bought a generic 32 in 1 internal card reader, one of those you plug into the internal usb ports of the board, it comes with a single usb 2.0 port besides the card readers, and has 2 green lights that are always on (as long as its hooked) and turn to red whenever theres a card inside

i first tried it on my old pc, a pentium 4 1.8ghz with old intel board and windows xp sp2, didnt set anything on the bios, and as soon as i turned the pc on, the green lights turned red for a second, and it booted normally and everything worked. My pc showed the 4 extra drives as F: G: H: and I:, i tried the usb port and it worked, tried the card reader and it recognized an old mmc i had perfectly, and when i tried the "safely remove hardware" it showed them as avex ax1611 so i asume thats the brand, or at least it recognized it as such.

I then procceeded to install it on my new pc, board EX38-DS4 with F3 revision BIOS, and Windows XP SP3, as soon as i turned it on i noticed The green lights never turned red, once it booted it showed the new hardware found msg, but it didnt recognize it as a media card reader, it did however install it, but as an "Unknown device", the extra drives dont show up on my pc, and under device manager there doesnt seem to be an error, theres absolutely no exclamation mark next to any device, its perfectly installed as an "unkwnon device", i tried downloading some drivers for it and it wouldnt change a thing, and when trying to update the drivers for it through device manager, it wouldnt install them, i found and tried the setup for avex ax1611 wich didnt work either. The usb port does work.

i tried checking the bios and every usb option is enabled, tried hooking it to another internal usb port to no avail, it just wont work on this pc.

what can i do that doesnt involve taking back windows to sp2? i think theres a slight chance that might not be it, since like i said it seems odd that as soon as i started the old pc, the green lights would turn red, indiciating it tried to read a card on it, wich wont happen on the new one, so it doesnt recognize it from the startup


sorry about the long post but i tried to make it as clearer as i could and point out everything i know about it, thanks in advance again

CoL2k3

ok, i just installed windows vista on my new pc (dual booting vista sp1 and xp sp3) and it wont work either, so xp sp3 is not the problem :(

like i said it worked as simple as plug and play on my old pc, it just wont get recognized as a media card reader on the new one

all help appreciated

CoL2k3

Come on, could anyone please try to help me, or at least provide an opinion or something? 55 reads and no replies :(

dai

check pnp is enabled in the bios

CoL2k3

Thanks for the reply,

this are the only pnp options on my bios under


PnP/PCI configurations menu

Resources controlled by : [Auto] Manual
(if i choose manual i get to set IRQ 3- 15)

PCI latency timer [32] 64 128
PCI 1 IRQ assignment [Auto] 3 4 5 ... 15
PCI 2 IRQ assignement [Auto] 3 4 5 ... 15


I cant seem to find any pnp enable/disable option, or anything that mentions pnp outside that menu, and those are all including hidden options after pressing ctrl+F1

gigabyte board EX38-DS4, award bios

P.d
under Integrated peripherals menu, i have USB controller, USB 2.0 controller, USB keyboard support, USB mouse support, and legacy USB storage detect, all enabled, and the usb port on the media card reader does work but it wont be recognized as a a media card reader, simply unkwnon device

dai

i assume pnp is auto enabled and they have discarded the setting
try a cmos reset
then reoptimise the bios

CoL2k3

dont know if its auto enabled, on the bios features it says
2x8 Mbit flash
Use of licensed award bios
support for dual BIOS
PnP 1.0a, DMI 2.0, SM BIOS 2.4, ACPI 1.9b


i tried cmos reset via screwdriver on the jumper (followed the manual), it did reset bios and all settings, and it didnt work either, the card reader works only as an extra usb port, but the card reader drives dont show up on xp.

I tried it on my old pc again to see if it had been damaged or something from all the plugging and unplugging, but it keeps working on the old one, just not on this.

as a side note, media card reader has a light (always green) that turns red when a card is inside, as soon as bios POST on my old pc with the media card installed, the light turns red, on the new pc it never does, its like it doesnt even know it exists, not even after cmos reset

dai

is usb enabled on boot,i don't know what else to suggest
have you tried by add new harware

CoL2k3

yes and yes, i found a template for my bios, ill copy my whole bios settings maybe you spot something i didnt.

Standard CMOS features

Ide channel 0 Master none
Ide channel 0 slave none
Ide channel 1 Master none
Ide channel 1 slave none

.. and so on except for one non sata dvd burner

Drive A none
Floppy 3 mode disabled
halt on [all, but keyboard]


Advanced BIOS Features:

Hard disk boot priority [press enter]
(once in there) 1 SCSI-0 P1-st3500320A 2 Bootable Add-in Card
First Boot Device Harddisk
second Boot Device P0-Tsstcorp CDD
third Boot Device CD-Rom
boot up floppy seek enabled
boot up num lock on
password check setup
HDD Smart Disabled
Limit CPU ID Max. to 3 Disabled
No-Execute Memory Protect Enabled
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) Enabled
CPU Thermal Monitor 2 (TM2) Enabled
CPU Eist Function Enabled
Virtualization Technology Enabled
Full Screen Logo Show Enabled
Init Display First [PEG2]


Integrated Peripherals:

SATA RAID/AHCI Mode AHCI
SATA Port 0-3 Native mode Enabled
USB Controller Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller Enabled
USB keyboard support Enabled
USB mouse support Enabled
Legacy USB storage support Enabled
Azalia Codec Auto
Onboard H/W 1394 Enabled
Onboard H/W Lan Enabled
Onboard H/W Lan2 Enabled
Smart Lan 1 [Press Enter]
Smart Lan 2 [Press Enter]
Onboard Lan 1 Boot ROM Disabled
Onboard Lan 2 Boot Rom Disabled
Onboard IDE controller Enabled
Onboard Serial Port 1 [3f8/IRQ4] (has a bunch other options)
Onboard Parallel Port [378/IRQ7] (has a bunch other options)
Parallel Port Mode [SPP] (has others, epp, etc)

Power Management Setup:

ACPI Suspend Type [S3(STR)]
USB device wakeup from S3 Enabled
Sort OFF by power button Instant Off
PME Event Wake UP Enabled
Power On by ring Disabled
Resume by alarm Disabled
HPET Support Enabled
HPET Mode [64-Bit Mode]
Power On by mouse Disabled
Power On by Keyboard Disabled
KB Power On Password Enter
AC Back Function [Soft-Off]


PnP/PCI configurations menu

Resources controlled by : [Auto] Manual
(if i choose manual i get to set IRQ 3- 15)
PCI latency timer [32] 64 128
PCI 1 IRQ assignment [Auto] 3 4 5 ... 15
PCI 2 IRQ assignement [Auto] 3 4 5 ... 15


PC Health Status:

Reset Case Open status Disabled
CPU Warning Temperature 70 C
CPU Fan Fail Warning Disabled
System Fan Fail Warning Disabled
System Fan 2 Fail Warning Disabled
Power Fan Fail Warning Disabled
CPU Smart Fan Control Method Disabled


M.I.T. MotherBoard Intelligent Tweaker:

Robust Graphic Booster Auto
CPU Clock Ratio [8X]
Fine CPU Clock +0.0
CPU Host Clock Control Disabled
PCI-E Frenquency Auto
C.I.A. 2 Disabled
System Memory Multiplier SPD 3.2B
DRAM Timing Slectable SPD Manual
CAS Latency 5
Dram RAS to CAS Delay 5
Dram RAS Precharge Delay 5
Precharge Delay (tRAS) 15
CPU/PCIex Clock Driving Control 800mV
Cpu Clock control Normal
MCH Clock Control Normal
System voltage Control Auto


Thanks

dai

yes it's enabled
this should be enabled it gives you advanced warning of a hard drive failure is imminent
HDD Smart Disabled

CoL2k3

i thought that you couldnt have both HDD SMART and NCQ working at the same time, thats why i disabeld it.

so did you see anything that i should change about my bios settings in order to get my media card reader to work just like it does on my old 2001 pc :(?

kodi

Try THESE DRIVERS

If they don't work Remove SP3 and see if it works with XP sp2 on the new computer

CoL2k3

Thanks so much for taking the time to find those, sadly they dont work, and when i try to manually assign them to the device on device manager (shows up as unrecognized device, but with no exclamation mark, so suposedly no errors), it gives me the following message "Error : The specified location does not contain information about your hardware".

like i said earlier tho, i do not think it is a software based problem, since i have dual boot vista and xp, and vista doesnt recognize the card either, it shows it as an "unrecognized device" too, and only the usb port on it works.

besides when i start the pc the card reader, the red light (indicating theres a card inside, wich would mean the pc recognizes the device as a card reader and not just an usb port) never turns on, it does on my old pc tho :(

dai

try resetting the usb
in the device manager click on view at the top and in the dropdown
show hidden devices
then uninstall all listed usb items
turn the computer off
unplug usb plugs
reboot twice
replug in the usb plugs

kodi

If you don't want to remove SP3 then put SP3 on your old computer and see if the reader works with it added.

CoL2k3

nice ideas, i tried both, installed sp3 on old pc, and the card reader still worked on it :(, so its not sp3.

tried uninstalling all usb items, didnt work either.

so before tossing the usb card reader to garbage i tried plugging it on the firewire internal port instead of the usb one, and it didnt like it very much...

ended up buying another one and this one worked on both pc's right away, a weird thing occurred tho cause i tried it first on my new pc having nothing plugged but power cord, monitor and usb mouse/keyboard, and it worked, then i tried it on the old pc and it worked, then i hooked everything to the new pc leaving the card reader for last and by the time i logged it didnt show up on my pc, it didnt recognize it... i wanted to kick the goddamn thing, but i unplugged the card reader and also some external 4 in 1 usb hud, then plugged only the reader, started windows and this time it worked, added the hud and remained working.


So, old one worked but only on some pc's, seems avex doesnt like either new boards or gigabyte boards, the new one works flawlessly. solved.

thanks everyone for your help


p.d the external 4 in 1 usb hud is not the cause for the old one not working simply because i tried it a gazillion times with nothing plugged but the keyboard and mouse and it just wouldnt work, but its worth noting that mass storage usb devices dont always like each other.