I Needz the ram Help?

navyisbetter · 10-05-2009, 11:44 AM

Hey guys, hopefully you can solve this problem as you did my last one. It's nice to have a site like this where you can just ask questions, But I digress.

I was installing Vista 64 the other day, and It wouldn't let me install it with 4gb. So I installed it with a 2gb sitck of DDR2 1066, and besides from it running slow, I can't go back and install it because my mobo wont post if I have both the sticks in there. So I have been using Vista 64 with 2gb of ram, which is less then desirable.

My question is, What do you think is the cause of my motherboard not being able to post with 4gb of ram in it, when it DID post when I had xp32?

Thanks in advance,
Richard

**Tyree** · 10-05-2009, 02:38 PM

Are both RAM sticks identical (Brand & Specs)?
What stopped the install with 4GB of RAM?
Brand & Model of Mobo-CPU-RAM-Graphics-PSU.

navyisbetter · 10-05-2009, 06:01 PM

Yes both sticks are identical

There 2x2gb OCZ DDR2 (1066) PC2 8500
When I had both of them in, I couldnt install any OS. But when I had One of the sticks in, It would allow me.

I have
EVGA 780i SLI Mobo
The ram I posted above
Core2 Duo CPU E8500 @ 3.16GHz
XFX GeForce GTS 250
Corsair 650w psu

**Tyree** · 10-06-2009, 07:33 AM

EVGA says DDR2 533/667/800/1200MHz RAM for that Mobo. Perhaps that's the issue?

navyisbetter · 10-06-2009, 11:33 AM

You know what? Your completely right. I just checked my mobo specs and it said my FSB was set at 1066, which I think I confused with my possible ram settings.
But is it possible to change it so that my ram runs at 800mhz?

navyisbetter · 10-07-2009, 12:42 PM

I hate doing this because it makes me look like a needy little kid but.... bump
(dont kill me)

**greenbrucelee** · 10-07-2009, 12:54 PM

you could attempt to overclock your ram but you would have to increase voltages, the dram setting to 800 and timings. With ram that isn't designed for overclocking it can have really disastorous results.

It's your call, personally I would just buy the new ram.

**Tyree** · 10-07-2009, 02:46 PM

You can try underclocking the RAM to 800Mhz. It may work but it won't do any harm if it doesn't.
I would also suggest you purchase a matching pair of PC6400 to avoid problems.

navyisbetter · 10-07-2009, 06:58 PM

Allright, I guess incompatible ram seems to be the reason of my troubles.

Would this work?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145184

navyisbetter · 10-17-2009, 12:37 PM

Just got some GSKILL DDR2 2x2gb PC6400 Ram and plugged em in, and It didn't work. So, I called EVGA and apparently I have a bad memory controller? I don't really feel like going through the long wait for a new Motherboard, so I think I might just buy a new one while I wait for the two month RMA process....

Any suggestions as to what one I should get?

**greenbrucelee** · 10-17-2009, 02:15 PM

Asus and Gigabyte are the best.

**Tyree** · 10-17-2009, 02:43 PM

Purchasing a good quality Mobo would be my suggestion. You could ask EVGA for a refund but I doubt that will happen. You can always pawn it of on EBay.

navyisbetter · 10-18-2009, 08:38 AM

I figured Id Buy an Asus P5Q Pro. It's on "sale" Right now, so I think I'll get it. Hopefully it solves my problems.

**greenbrucelee** · 10-18-2009, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by navyisbetter

I figured Id Buy an Asus P5Q Pro. It's on "sale" Right now, so I think I'll get it. Hopefully it solves my problems.

good choice :)

navyisbetter · 10-21-2009, 05:30 PM

Ok so just a quick update on this, everything works now after I got my P5Q mobo. Just wondering if I could use my GSKILL DDR2 2x2gb PC6400 (4-4-4-12) and my OCZ DDR2 2x2gb Ram PC8500 (5-5-5-18) together.

**greenbrucelee** · 10-22-2009, 04:32 AM

you should never do this as it can cause problems, it's always best anyway to use 2 dimm slots instead of all four as using all four can cause voltage issues.

navyisbetter · 10-26-2009, 12:03 PM

So could I use 3 sticks? or am i stuck with two sets of ram that I cant use with Each other....

**greenbrucelee** · 10-26-2009, 12:09 PM

you should use the same ram make and speed all the time. Anyway 32bit windows can only see 3.25GB of ram anyway so it would be pointless.

navyisbetter · 10-27-2009, 11:54 AM

Im using 64bit Vista, at the moment, so it would see more then 4gb, right?

**greenbrucelee** · 10-27-2009, 11:57 AM

yes but if your mixing speeds and makes then that coul cause issues

10-05-2009, 11:44 AM	#1 (permalink)
navyisbetter Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Metro DC Area Posts: 19 OS: Xp 32, Vista 64 Ultimate My System	I Needz the ram Help? Hey guys, hopefully you can solve this problem as you did my last one. It's nice to have a site like this where you can just ask questions, But I digress. I was installing Vista 64 the other day, and It wouldn't let me install it with 4gb. So I installed it with a 2gb sitck of DDR2 1066, and besides from it running slow, I can't go back and install it because my mobo wont post if I have both the sticks in there. So I have been using Vista 64 with 2gb of ram, which is less then desirable. My question is, What do you think is the cause of my motherboard not being able to post with 4gb of ram in it, when it DID post when I had xp32? Thanks in advance, Richard

10-05-2009, 02:38 PM	#2 (permalink)
Tyree Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: May 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 5,796 OS: XP Pro-7RC-Mandriva My System	Re: I Needz the ram Help? Are both RAM sticks identical (Brand & Specs)? What stopped the install with 4GB of RAM? Brand & Model of Mobo-CPU-RAM-Graphics-PSU. __________________ Posting your PC specs will help us to help you quicker and more efficiently.

10-05-2009, 06:01 PM	#3 (permalink)
navyisbetter Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Metro DC Area Posts: 19 OS: Xp 32, Vista 64 Ultimate My System	Re: I Needz the ram Help? Yes both sticks are identical There 2x2gb OCZ DDR2 (1066) PC2 8500 When I had both of them in, I couldnt install any OS. But when I had One of the sticks in, It would allow me. I have EVGA 780i SLI Mobo The ram I posted above Core2 Duo CPU E8500 @ 3.16GHz XFX GeForce GTS 250 Corsair 650w psu __________________ Whose More Foolish, the Fool, or the fool who follows him? - Ben Kenobi

10-06-2009, 07:33 AM	#4 (permalink)
Tyree Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: May 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 5,796 OS: XP Pro-7RC-Mandriva My System	Re: I Needz the ram Help? EVGA says DDR2 533/667/800/1200MHz RAM for that Mobo. Perhaps that's the issue? __________________ Posting your PC specs will help us to help you quicker and more efficiently.

10-06-2009, 11:33 AM	#5 (permalink)
navyisbetter Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Metro DC Area Posts: 19 OS: Xp 32, Vista 64 Ultimate My System	Re: I Needz the ram Help? You know what? Your completely right. I just checked my mobo specs and it said my FSB was set at 1066, which I think I confused with my possible ram settings. But is it possible to change it so that my ram runs at 800mhz? __________________ Whose More Foolish, the Fool, or the fool who follows him? - Ben Kenobi

10-07-2009, 12:42 PM	#6 (permalink)
navyisbetter Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Metro DC Area Posts: 19 OS: Xp 32, Vista 64 Ultimate My System	Re: I Needz the ram Help? I hate doing this because it makes me look like a needy little kid but.... bump (dont kill me) __________________ Whose More Foolish, the Fool, or the fool who follows him? - Ben Kenobi

10-07-2009, 12:54 PM	#7 (permalink)
greenbrucelee Mentor Hardware team Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,930 OS: XP SP3 My System	Re: I Needz the ram Help? you could attempt to overclock your ram but you would have to increase voltages, the dram setting to 800 and timings. With ram that isn't designed for overclocking it can have really disastorous results. It's your call, personally I would just buy the new ram. __________________ Microsoft certified professional, Network +, A+ certified

10-07-2009, 02:46 PM	#8 (permalink)
Tyree Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: May 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 5,796 OS: XP Pro-7RC-Mandriva My System	Re: I Needz the ram Help? You can try underclocking the RAM to 800Mhz. It may work but it won't do any harm if it doesn't. I would also suggest you purchase a matching pair of PC6400 to avoid problems. __________________ Posting your PC specs will help us to help you quicker and more efficiently.

10-07-2009, 06:58 PM	#9 (permalink)
navyisbetter Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Metro DC Area Posts: 19 OS: Xp 32, Vista 64 Ultimate My System	Re: I Needz the ram Help? Allright, I guess incompatible ram seems to be the reason of my troubles. Would this work? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145184 __________________ Whose More Foolish, the Fool, or the fool who follows him? - Ben Kenobi

10-17-2009, 12:37 PM	#10 (permalink)
navyisbetter Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Metro DC Area Posts: 19 OS: Xp 32, Vista 64 Ultimate My System	Re: I Needz the ram Help? Just got some GSKILL DDR2 2x2gb PC6400 Ram and plugged em in, and It didn't work. So, I called EVGA and apparently I have a bad memory controller? I don't really feel like going through the long wait for a new Motherboard, so I think I might just buy a new one while I wait for the two month RMA process.... Any suggestions as to what one I should get? __________________ Whose More Foolish, the Fool, or the fool who follows him? - Ben Kenobi

10-17-2009, 02:15 PM	#11 (permalink)
greenbrucelee Mentor Hardware team Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,930 OS: XP SP3 My System	Re: I Needz the ram Help? Asus and Gigabyte are the best. __________________ Microsoft certified professional, Network +, A+ certified

10-17-2009, 02:43 PM	#12 (permalink)
Tyree Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: May 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 5,796 OS: XP Pro-7RC-Mandriva My System	Re: I Needz the ram Help? Purchasing a good quality Mobo would be my suggestion. You could ask EVGA for a refund but I doubt that will happen. You can always pawn it of on EBay. __________________ Posting your PC specs will help us to help you quicker and more efficiently.

10-18-2009, 08:38 AM	#13 (permalink)
navyisbetter Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Metro DC Area Posts: 19 OS: Xp 32, Vista 64 Ultimate My System	Re: I Needz the ram Help? I figured Id Buy an Asus P5Q Pro. It's on "sale" Right now, so I think I'll get it. Hopefully it solves my problems. __________________ Whose More Foolish, the Fool, or the fool who follows him? - Ben Kenobi

10-21-2009, 05:30 PM	#15 (permalink)
navyisbetter Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Metro DC Area Posts: 19 OS: Xp 32, Vista 64 Ultimate My System	Re: I Needz the ram Help? Ok so just a quick update on this, everything works now after I got my P5Q mobo. Just wondering if I could use my GSKILL DDR2 2x2gb PC6400 (4-4-4-12) and my OCZ DDR2 2x2gb Ram PC8500 (5-5-5-18) together. __________________ Whose More Foolish, the Fool, or the fool who follows him? - Ben Kenobi

10-22-2009, 04:32 AM	#16 (permalink)
greenbrucelee Mentor Hardware team Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,930 OS: XP SP3 My System	Re: I Needz the ram Help? you should never do this as it can cause problems, it's always best anyway to use 2 dimm slots instead of all four as using all four can cause voltage issues. __________________ Microsoft certified professional, Network +, A+ certified

10-26-2009, 12:03 PM	#17 (permalink)
navyisbetter Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Metro DC Area Posts: 19 OS: Xp 32, Vista 64 Ultimate My System	Re: I Needz the ram Help? So could I use 3 sticks? or am i stuck with two sets of ram that I cant use with Each other.... __________________ Whose More Foolish, the Fool, or the fool who follows him? - Ben Kenobi

10-26-2009, 12:09 PM	#18 (permalink)
greenbrucelee Mentor Hardware team Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,930 OS: XP SP3 My System	Re: I Needz the ram Help? you should use the same ram make and speed all the time. Anyway 32bit windows can only see 3.25GB of ram anyway so it would be pointless. __________________ Microsoft certified professional, Network +, A+ certified Last edited by greenbrucelee; 10-26-2009 at 12:10 PM.

10-27-2009, 11:54 AM	#19 (permalink)
navyisbetter Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Metro DC Area Posts: 19 OS: Xp 32, Vista 64 Ultimate My System	Re: I Needz the ram Help? Im using 64bit Vista, at the moment, so it would see more then 4gb, right? __________________ Whose More Foolish, the Fool, or the fool who follows him? - Ben Kenobi

10-27-2009, 11:57 AM	#20 (permalink)
greenbrucelee Mentor Hardware team Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,930 OS: XP SP3 My System	Re: I Needz the ram Help? yes but if your mixing speeds and makes then that coul cause issues __________________ Microsoft certified professional, Network +, A+ certified