[SOLVED] 8Gb Memory Trouble OCZ with GA-N680SLI-DQ6

Psyclapse · 09-28-2009, 08:50 PM

Hello this is my first post on tech support forums, and im very impressed by all the help people have been getting here!

Although this time im the one with a problem so hopefully you can work me through this.

Recently i upgraded to a full version of windows 7 Professional 64bit (my uni gives it out oem via msndaa early)

I can also boot Windows XP 32 bit, but im liking 7

Onto my problem.

My current motherboard (GA-N680SLI-DQ6)

I bought a 4 x 2Gb OCZ Gold Ram kit, its ment to run at 800 DDR2
The timings for this ram is 5-5-5-15 voltage is 1.8 OR 1.9 as i read on the OCZ site, im running it at 1.9 just to be safe.

Note i have correctly set the ram settings

Now whenever i have all 4 sticks plugged into my board, i bsod, on startup or few seconds after startup in 7 (64bit) and XP (32bit) if i take 2 sticks out and just run 4gb it works fine no trouble.

Its only when i have 3 or 4 sticks in my computer has trouble. I have tested each stick individually and tried re seating each of them etc.
I have also run memtest on each stick individually and they each work fiine, memtest also works fine with 2 sticks. Soon as 3 or 4 its error city

I do believe this motherboard has an nvidia chip set on it, and i have heard somthing about u have to increase the voltage to the nvidia chip or somthing like that im unsure...my motherboard is rated to take 8gb of ram

Can anyone help me with this issue, im not OCing anything my system currently stands at:

Motherboard: GA-N680SLI-DQ6 (gigabyte "6 quad")
PSU: 1000wat Antec (im really sure its not a psu supply issue lol)
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 @ 2.66ghz
GPU: EVGA Geforce 285GTX 2.0Gb
RAM: 2 x 2 Gb OCZ gold DDR2 800
HD: 1 x 500gb, 1 x 320gb, 1 x 500gb external and about 9 usb devices

Thankyou for your help in advance

Psyclapse · 09-28-2009, 10:46 PM

Ive been looking around for a solution to this, i may have to increase voltage to the "northbridge" but im afraid i may brake somthing in the process. Is there anyway to determin how much extra voltage i should give it?

**grimx133** · 09-28-2009, 11:19 PM

Some boards are picky on having all four memory slots populated, and nVidia chipset
ones are the pickiest. You are much better off using two sticks, you most likely aren't
going to use more than 4GB of ram at any time. Increasing the ram voltage can help
when all the slots are in use, but you are already at 1.9v. Going over the manufacturer's
specs for voltage isn't a good idea, ram is quite sensitive. Performance ram is usually
rated for around 2.1v. for ddr2, that might run stable with the extra voltage, or might
not, depending on the motherboard.

Psyclapse · 09-28-2009, 11:50 PM

Its a shame really i cant get this to work

windows 7 does use quite a bit of ram as i have all the fancy "stuff" turned on. 3DS Studio Max and Adobe After Effects are two programs a regularly use, oh and AutoCad, and they all hog ram, so it would be great if i could get the 8gb working. The OCZ site said the ram should be 1.8 but can be set 1.9 without voiding warrenty. It seems to run more stable on 1.9 anyway so i will leave that.

By increasing the northbridge by 0.10 i actually got into windows without bsoding but i locked up after 30 seconds. Im not sure. If anybody knows anything about getting nvidia chipsets working with 4 sticks please reply.

http://www.ocztechnology.com/product...c_dual_channel

Thankyou for your reply i will be running 2 x 2gb for the time being.

**Tyree** · 09-29-2009, 07:30 AM

Filling all the RAM slots on any Mobo can cause Voltage issue.
I doubt the problem is with the RAM and the Nvidia chip not getting along.
Intel CPU's however do prefer Intel chipsets.
4GB of RAM is more than plenty.
The Voltage rating on RAM is the maximum suggested settings. That RAM is 1.8V but has a 1.9V Extended Voltage Protection. Using Voltage over 1.9V voids the warranty.

**wrench97** · 09-29-2009, 04:51 PM

The Nvida 6xxi and 7xxi chipsets need the northbridge voltage increased slightly to run ram in all the slots this how ever causes the NB to run hotter and self destruct, I don't recommend doing it at all.

What specific part number OCZ ram did you get?

Psyclapse · 09-29-2009, 04:55 PM

Sorry, will give you the number when i get home, at uni atm, thanks for your help, and the northbridge seems to have pipe cooling on top of it on the motherboard, it dosnt warn me when i turn up the voltage on it either, but im not going to fiddle with it yet. Thanks again for the reply!

Psyclapse · 09-29-2009, 04:58 PM

Does this help you, this was on the order form that i accessed online:
OCZ 8GB (4 x 2048mb) Quad Gold DDR2 800 (PC6400 - OCZ2G8008GQ) RAM Module Kit

**wrench97** · 09-29-2009, 05:30 PM

I checked in the OCZ configuration utility and they do not have a recommended 2gig stick for that board(not a big surprise) which usually means they have had too many issues to recommend a part number stick and have warranty compatibility.
http://memoryselector.cnetchannel.co...odel_id=529595

For what it's worth I have had luck and no luck with these on Asus 680i boards but have never tried it on the Gigabyte, not to sound pessimistic but after the last 780i build last year I don't use them any longer too many hoops to jump through to get them to work properly, I've found that if you build it and it runs good for a week it's a winner it you have any issues after assembly it's all down hill from there.
http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=189

Psyclapse · 09-29-2009, 09:00 PM

Gah thats bad news, thanks for all your help, its such a pain in the but these nForce boards!

This is the second time i have had so much trouble with gigabyte boards in particular, but im sure im just having a bad run with them.

One more question -
in the bios to increase the northbridge the ONLY option for voltage with NB in its name was:

NB/PCI-E

the motherboard warning message was that I may "damage PCI-E devices by increasing the voltage"

is this what i need to be increasing? and will/could damage my brand new 285GTX?

Im tempted to just upgrade to the I7 board and DDR3 ram, and leave it alone, its annoying when you waste money

will be consolting this website before i buy next time!

**wrench97** · 09-30-2009, 01:27 AM

That's the one, the card will probably take it but the NB will run hot and cause errors.

As a stop gap I would look for a P35/P45 board, the i7 8xx on P55 boards looks very promising(with turbo mode it out preforms the 920) but it's too early in their life cycle to jump on them in my opinion.

Psyclapse · 09-30-2009, 01:48 AM

What P55 would be best suited for high peformence pc? (what brand) Could i go with an EVGA board?

Psyclapse · 09-30-2009, 02:24 AM

would these parts be compatable with one another? suggestions please :)

Motherboard
http://www.itsdirect.com.au/com_prod...__141_BL_E757_

CPU
http://www.itsdirect.com.au/com_prod...PU__8mb_Cache_

RAM
http://www.itsdirect.com.au/com_prod...E_Pack_for_i7_

CASE
http://www.itsdirect.com.au/com_prod..._Case__No_PSU_

I dont need much CPU power, i really need more GPU which is fine :) i already got one

I would be plugging into this my already exisiting EVGA 2Gb 285GTX and Antec 1000wat powersupply

**wrench97** · 09-30-2009, 01:17 PM

EVGA makes great Video Cards, but pass on their motrherboards, Asus or Gigabyte> http://www.itsdirect.com.au/com_prod...Suits_Core_i7_

But before you jump on the 1366 system have a look at these comparisons.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu..._15.html#sect0
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...review-17.html

Psyclapse · 10-02-2009, 12:22 AM

Ok thankyou for the tips, you have been great help! [Solved] :)

09-28-2009, 08:50 PM	#1 (permalink)
Psyclapse Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 9 OS: Windows 7 64bit and WinXP 32bit	[SOLVED] 8Gb Memory Trouble OCZ with GA-N680SLI-DQ6 Hello this is my first post on tech support forums, and im very impressed by all the help people have been getting here! Although this time im the one with a problem so hopefully you can work me through this. Recently i upgraded to a full version of windows 7 Professional 64bit (my uni gives it out oem via msndaa early) I can also boot Windows XP 32 bit, but im liking 7 Onto my problem. My current motherboard (GA-N680SLI-DQ6) I bought a 4 x 2Gb OCZ Gold Ram kit, its ment to run at 800 DDR2 The timings for this ram is 5-5-5-15 voltage is 1.8 OR 1.9 as i read on the OCZ site, im running it at 1.9 just to be safe. Note i have correctly set the ram settings Now whenever i have all 4 sticks plugged into my board, i bsod, on startup or few seconds after startup in 7 (64bit) and XP (32bit) if i take 2 sticks out and just run 4gb it works fine no trouble. Its only when i have 3 or 4 sticks in my computer has trouble. I have tested each stick individually and tried re seating each of them etc. I have also run memtest on each stick individually and they each work fiine, memtest also works fine with 2 sticks. Soon as 3 or 4 its error city I do believe this motherboard has an nvidia chip set on it, and i have heard somthing about u have to increase the voltage to the nvidia chip or somthing like that im unsure...my motherboard is rated to take 8gb of ram Can anyone help me with this issue, im not OCing anything my system currently stands at: Motherboard: GA-N680SLI-DQ6 (gigabyte "6 quad") PSU: 1000wat Antec (im really sure its not a psu supply issue lol) CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 @ 2.66ghz GPU: EVGA Geforce 285GTX 2.0Gb RAM: 2 x 2 Gb OCZ gold DDR2 800 HD: 1 x 500gb, 1 x 320gb, 1 x 500gb external and about 9 usb devices Thankyou for your help in advance

09-28-2009, 10:46 PM	#2 (permalink)
Psyclapse Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 9 OS: Windows 7 64bit and WinXP 32bit	Re: 8Gb Memory Trouble OCZ with GA-N680SLI-DQ6 Ive been looking around for a solution to this, i may have to increase voltage to the "northbridge" but im afraid i may brake somthing in the process. Is there anyway to determin how much extra voltage i should give it?

09-28-2009, 11:19 PM	#3 (permalink)
grimx133 Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Canada eh Posts: 3,149 OS: xp mce sp2, xp pro sp2, windows 7 beta My System	Re: 8Gb Memory Trouble OCZ with GA-N680SLI-DQ6 Some boards are picky on having all four memory slots populated, and nVidia chipset ones are the pickiest. You are much better off using two sticks, you most likely aren't going to use more than 4GB of ram at any time. Increasing the ram voltage can help when all the slots are in use, but you are already at 1.9v. Going over the manufacturer's specs for voltage isn't a good idea, ram is quite sensitive. Performance ram is usually rated for around 2.1v. for ddr2, that might run stable with the extra voltage, or might not, depending on the motherboard. __________________

09-28-2009, 11:50 PM	#4 (permalink)
Psyclapse Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 9 OS: Windows 7 64bit and WinXP 32bit	Re: 8Gb Memory Trouble OCZ with GA-N680SLI-DQ6 Its a shame really i cant get this to work windows 7 does use quite a bit of ram as i have all the fancy "stuff" turned on. 3DS Studio Max and Adobe After Effects are two programs a regularly use, oh and AutoCad, and they all hog ram, so it would be great if i could get the 8gb working. The OCZ site said the ram should be 1.8 but can be set 1.9 without voiding warrenty. It seems to run more stable on 1.9 anyway so i will leave that. By increasing the northbridge by 0.10 i actually got into windows without bsoding but i locked up after 30 seconds. Im not sure. If anybody knows anything about getting nvidia chipsets working with 4 sticks please reply. http://www.ocztechnology.com/product...c_dual_channel Thankyou for your reply i will be running 2 x 2gb for the time being.

09-29-2009, 07:30 AM	#5 (permalink)
Tyree Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: May 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 5,673 OS: XP Pro-7RC-Mandriva My System	Re: 8Gb Memory Trouble OCZ with GA-N680SLI-DQ6 Filling all the RAM slots on any Mobo can cause Voltage issue. I doubt the problem is with the RAM and the Nvidia chip not getting along. Intel CPU's however do prefer Intel chipsets. 4GB of RAM is more than plenty. The Voltage rating on RAM is the maximum suggested settings. That RAM is 1.8V but has a 1.9V Extended Voltage Protection. Using Voltage over 1.9V voids the warranty. __________________ Posting your PC specs will help us to help you quicker and more efficiently.

09-29-2009, 04:51 PM	#6 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,626 OS: Win7	Re: 8Gb Memory Trouble OCZ with GA-N680SLI-DQ6 The Nvida 6xxi and 7xxi chipsets need the northbridge voltage increased slightly to run ram in all the slots this how ever causes the NB to run hotter and self destruct, I don't recommend doing it at all. What specific part number OCZ ram did you get? __________________ Power Supply and Selection

09-29-2009, 04:55 PM	#7 (permalink)
Psyclapse Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 9 OS: Windows 7 64bit and WinXP 32bit	Re: 8Gb Memory Trouble OCZ with GA-N680SLI-DQ6 Sorry, will give you the number when i get home, at uni atm, thanks for your help, and the northbridge seems to have pipe cooling on top of it on the motherboard, it dosnt warn me when i turn up the voltage on it either, but im not going to fiddle with it yet. Thanks again for the reply!

09-29-2009, 04:58 PM	#8 (permalink)
Psyclapse Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 9 OS: Windows 7 64bit and WinXP 32bit	Re: 8Gb Memory Trouble OCZ with GA-N680SLI-DQ6 Does this help you, this was on the order form that i accessed online: OCZ 8GB (4 x 2048mb) Quad Gold DDR2 800 (PC6400 - OCZ2G8008GQ) RAM Module Kit

09-29-2009, 05:30 PM	#9 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,626 OS: Win7	Re: 8Gb Memory Trouble OCZ with GA-N680SLI-DQ6 I checked in the OCZ configuration utility and they do not have a recommended 2gig stick for that board(not a big surprise) which usually means they have had too many issues to recommend a part number stick and have warranty compatibility. http://memoryselector.cnetchannel.co...odel_id=529595 For what it's worth I have had luck and no luck with these on Asus 680i boards but have never tried it on the Gigabyte, not to sound pessimistic but after the last 780i build last year I don't use them any longer too many hoops to jump through to get them to work properly, I've found that if you build it and it runs good for a week it's a winner it you have any issues after assembly it's all down hill from there. http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=189 __________________ Power Supply and Selection

09-29-2009, 09:00 PM	#10 (permalink)
Psyclapse Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 9 OS: Windows 7 64bit and WinXP 32bit	Re: 8Gb Memory Trouble OCZ with GA-N680SLI-DQ6 Gah thats bad news, thanks for all your help, its such a pain in the but these nForce boards! This is the second time i have had so much trouble with gigabyte boards in particular, but im sure im just having a bad run with them. One more question - in the bios to increase the northbridge the ONLY option for voltage with NB in its name was: NB/PCI-E the motherboard warning message was that I may "damage PCI-E devices by increasing the voltage" is this what i need to be increasing? and will/could damage my brand new 285GTX? Im tempted to just upgrade to the I7 board and DDR3 ram, and leave it alone, its annoying when you waste money will be consolting this website before i buy next time!

09-30-2009, 01:27 AM	#11 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,626 OS: Win7	Re: 8Gb Memory Trouble OCZ with GA-N680SLI-DQ6 That's the one, the card will probably take it but the NB will run hot and cause errors. As a stop gap I would look for a P35/P45 board, the i7 8xx on P55 boards looks very promising(with turbo mode it out preforms the 920) but it's too early in their life cycle to jump on them in my opinion. __________________ Power Supply and Selection

09-30-2009, 01:48 AM	#12 (permalink)
Psyclapse Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 9 OS: Windows 7 64bit and WinXP 32bit	Re: 8Gb Memory Trouble OCZ with GA-N680SLI-DQ6 What P55 would be best suited for high peformence pc? (what brand) Could i go with an EVGA board?

09-30-2009, 02:24 AM	#13 (permalink)
Psyclapse Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 9 OS: Windows 7 64bit and WinXP 32bit	Re: 8Gb Memory Trouble OCZ with GA-N680SLI-DQ6 would these parts be compatable with one another? suggestions please :) Motherboard http://www.itsdirect.com.au/com_prod...__141_BL_E757_ CPU http://www.itsdirect.com.au/com_prod...PU__8mb_Cache_ RAM http://www.itsdirect.com.au/com_prod...E_Pack_for_i7_ CASE http://www.itsdirect.com.au/com_prod..._Case__No_PSU_ I dont need much CPU power, i really need more GPU which is fine :) i already got one I would be plugging into this my already exisiting EVGA 2Gb 285GTX and Antec 1000wat powersupply

09-30-2009, 01:17 PM	#14 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,626 OS: Win7	Re: 8Gb Memory Trouble OCZ with GA-N680SLI-DQ6 EVGA makes great Video Cards, but pass on their motrherboards, Asus or Gigabyte> http://www.itsdirect.com.au/com_prod...Suits_Core_i7_ But before you jump on the 1366 system have a look at these comparisons. http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu..._15.html#sect0 http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...review-17.html __________________ Power Supply and Selection

10-02-2009, 12:22 AM	#15 (permalink)
Psyclapse Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 9 OS: Windows 7 64bit and WinXP 32bit	Re: 8Gb Memory Trouble OCZ with GA-N680SLI-DQ6 Ok thankyou for the tips, you have been great help! [Solved] :)