Ram ????[MOVED FROM WINDOWS]

Newbie84 · 10-20-2008, 08:29 PM

Basically this is a thread questioning what I can do with out the aid of getting more RAM (Which I think may only be the way) BUT....

Im using this machine for Producing Music and the PC Spec Sucks

Pentium 4
2.8 Ghz
512mb of ram

I just cant afford any upgrades, Im too ghetto for any of that

Wondering if theres a way to boost my ram through a programme or tweaking the PC to get more out of it?

Or can you also allot some of your HDD to act as RAM ???

Any responses, Will be greatly appreciated. Is a big problem as I need to get some music out there to earn money for parts hehe

Cheers

elf · 10-20-2008, 08:45 PM

Windows automatically assigns part of the hard drive as a pagefile (virtual memory). It operates much the same way as RAM, but is significantly slower. This can be adjusted by right clicking My Computer selecting Properties, then clicking the Advanced tab then clicking Settings under the Performance category, and then clicking the Advanced tab again. The virtual memory section will be at the bottom of the window.

As for a program that will "boost" the ram...there are programs that will free up RAM (FreeRAM-XP, etc..) but it won't ever get more than 512MB.

IMO, your best bet, if you are using something like Windows XP, is to go to a different operating system...one which uses less resources. Something like linux would be good if you could figure out how to use it because it would leave more of your RAM available for audio processing.

Newbie84 · 10-20-2008, 08:49 PM

Thanks for the reply 'Elf'

By getting that programme and doing the other thing you told me.

Will it help in any way...?? As i dont understand it in fully what you said.. :S I have no greater knowledge of PC's and the workings out.

And i will look into Linux now. to see if my programmes will work on it

Thanks for a quick reply bro.

Newbie84 · 10-20-2008, 08:56 PM

"Windows automatically assigns part of the hard drive as a pagefile (virtual memory). It operates much the same way as RAM, but is significantly slower. This can be adjusted by right clicking My Computer selecting Properties, then clicking the Advanced tab then clicking Settings under the Performance category, and then clicking the Advanced tab again. The virtual memory section will be at the bottom of the window. "

I done all that, But confused... :S

I wouldn't have the slightest clue on what to change the numbers to or anything like that..

Initial Size is: 768

Maximum Size is: 1536

Newbie84 · 10-20-2008, 09:00 PM

Here is what I have...

All this is foreign to me. If some one could give me instructions thanks

Newbie84 · 10-20-2008, 09:23 PM

Anyone?

Newbie84 · 10-21-2008, 01:10 PM

Air pie

Newbie84 · 10-21-2008, 06:43 PM

Any further assistance plz

elf · 10-21-2008, 09:31 PM

That should be alright, or you can set it to let windows automatically set it by choosing "System managed size".

Like I said, it is slower than regular RAM, and I'm not sure how well it will work for audio editing.

The program I told you about, will clear up RAM that is no longer being used by programs. It will not increase the physical amount of RAM that you have.

greg.dent · 10-22-2008, 06:55 AM

First of all, you can only use what you got. The more RAM you got, the faster your PC will be.

Secondly, increasing your paging file WILL NOT speed your PC up in any way shape or form. The reason PC's with little RAM slow down is because they are actually using the paging file - the hard disk becomes a massive bottleneck.

Ideally you want to prevent Windows from having to use the page file. To do this, you can do one of two things; buy more RAM (which is cheap these days) OR make sure every program and background process you do not need is shut down. There are various tutorials on this dotted around the net, but I'm too rich and my PC too powerful to bother searching :P

Newbie84 · 10-22-2008, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elf

That should be alright, or you can set it to let windows automatically set it by choosing "System managed size".

Like I said, it is slower than regular RAM, and I'm not sure how well it will work for audio editing.

The program I told you about, will clear up RAM that is no longer being used by programs. It will not increase the physical amount of RAM that you have.

Thank you elf. But you im a newbie u still confuse me with 'It is slower then regular RAM' - What is that exactly?

Thanks i will try this programme tonight.

Quote:

Originally Posted by greg dent

but I'm too rich and my PC too powerful to bother searching :P

If you were that rich and pc too powerful you would share your wealth and pc's power to help other, rather then bragging you have a quick pc - Yeh but thanks for bragging. Doesnt do much really except look a ....

greg.dent · 10-23-2008, 03:08 AM

It was meant as a joke - sorry for annoying you :P

Newbie84 · 10-23-2008, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greg.dent

It was meant as a joke - sorry for annoying you :P

No worries.

Just hard to judge off text you see. Also mine was too!

Just need help like. the help started./ What do i do with the Virtual memory?

What numbers shall i put in ect

greg.dent · 10-24-2008, 02:46 AM

Well there isn't much you can do to be honest. Nothing you do with the virtual memory is going to speed your computer up by much.

Like I said, best place to start is by slimming down your computers startup and getting rid of any unnecessary processes that are running.

This might help.

10-20-2008, 08:29 PM	#1 (permalink)
Newbie84 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 150 OS: XP	Ram ????[MOVED FROM WINDOWS] Basically this is a thread questioning what I can do with out the aid of getting more RAM (Which I think may only be the way) BUT.... Im using this machine for Producing Music and the PC Spec Sucks Pentium 4 2.8 Ghz 512mb of ram I just cant afford any upgrades, Im too ghetto for any of that Wondering if theres a way to boost my ram through a programme or tweaking the PC to get more out of it? Or can you also allot some of your HDD to act as RAM ??? Any responses, Will be greatly appreciated. Is a big problem as I need to get some music out there to earn money for parts hehe Cheers

10-20-2008, 08:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
elf Manager, Microsoft Support Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Knoxville, TN or Austin, TX depending Posts: 7,038 OS: WinXP Pro SP3 and Windows 7 My System	Re: Ram ???? Windows automatically assigns part of the hard drive as a pagefile (virtual memory). It operates much the same way as RAM, but is significantly slower. This can be adjusted by right clicking My Computer selecting Properties, then clicking the Advanced tab then clicking Settings under the Performance category, and then clicking the Advanced tab again. The virtual memory section will be at the bottom of the window. As for a program that will "boost" the ram...there are programs that will free up RAM (FreeRAM-XP, etc..) but it won't ever get more than 512MB. IMO, your best bet, if you are using something like Windows XP, is to go to a different operating system...one which uses less resources. Something like linux would be good if you could figure out how to use it because it would leave more of your RAM available for audio processing. __________________ If TSF has helped you, Tell us about it! or Donate to help keep the site up! I do not subscribe to threads, so if I stop replying, PM me with a link to your thread so I can find it again.

10-20-2008, 08:49 PM	#3 (permalink)
Newbie84 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 150 OS: XP	Re: Ram ???? Thanks for the reply 'Elf' By getting that programme and doing the other thing you told me. Will it help in any way...?? As i dont understand it in fully what you said.. :S I have no greater knowledge of PC's and the workings out. And i will look into Linux now. to see if my programmes will work on it Thanks for a quick reply bro.

10-20-2008, 08:56 PM	#4 (permalink)
Newbie84 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 150 OS: XP	Re: Ram ???? "Windows automatically assigns part of the hard drive as a pagefile (virtual memory). It operates much the same way as RAM, but is significantly slower. This can be adjusted by right clicking My Computer selecting Properties, then clicking the Advanced tab then clicking Settings under the Performance category, and then clicking the Advanced tab again. The virtual memory section will be at the bottom of the window. " I done all that, But confused... :S I wouldn't have the slightest clue on what to change the numbers to or anything like that.. Initial Size is: 768 Maximum Size is: 1536

10-20-2008, 09:00 PM	#5 (permalink)
Newbie84 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 150 OS: XP	Re: Ram ???? Here is what I have... All this is foreign to me. If some one could give me instructions thanks

10-20-2008, 09:23 PM	#6 (permalink)
Newbie84 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 150 OS: XP	Re: Ram ???? Anyone?

10-21-2008, 01:10 PM	#7 (permalink)
Newbie84 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 150 OS: XP	Re: Ram ???? Air pie

10-21-2008, 06:43 PM	#8 (permalink)
Newbie84 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 150 OS: XP	Re: Ram ????[MOVED FROM WINDOWS] Any further assistance plz

10-21-2008, 09:31 PM	#9 (permalink)
elf Manager, Microsoft Support Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Knoxville, TN or Austin, TX depending Posts: 7,038 OS: WinXP Pro SP3 and Windows 7 My System	Re: Ram ????[MOVED FROM WINDOWS] That should be alright, or you can set it to let windows automatically set it by choosing "System managed size". Like I said, it is slower than regular RAM, and I'm not sure how well it will work for audio editing. The program I told you about, will clear up RAM that is no longer being used by programs. It will not increase the physical amount of RAM that you have. __________________ If TSF has helped you, Tell us about it! or Donate to help keep the site up! I do not subscribe to threads, so if I stop replying, PM me with a link to your thread so I can find it again.

10-22-2008, 06:55 AM	#10 (permalink)
greg.dent Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 12 OS: Windows XP	Re: Ram ????[MOVED FROM WINDOWS] First of all, you can only use what you got. The more RAM you got, the faster your PC will be. Secondly, increasing your paging file WILL NOT speed your PC up in any way shape or form. The reason PC's with little RAM slow down is because they are actually using the paging file - the hard disk becomes a massive bottleneck. Ideally you want to prevent Windows from having to use the page file. To do this, you can do one of two things; buy more RAM (which is cheap these days) OR make sure every program and background process you do not need is shut down. There are various tutorials on this dotted around the net, but I'm too rich and my PC too powerful to bother searching :P Last edited by dai; 10-22-2008 at 02:21 PM. Reason: language

10-23-2008, 03:08 AM	#12 (permalink)
greg.dent Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 12 OS: Windows XP	Re: Ram ????[MOVED FROM WINDOWS] It was meant as a joke - sorry for annoying you :P

10-24-2008, 02:46 AM	#14 (permalink)
greg.dent Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 12 OS: Windows XP	Re: Ram ????[MOVED FROM WINDOWS] Well there isn't much you can do to be honest. Nothing you do with the virtual memory is going to speed your computer up by much. Like I said, best place to start is by slimming down your computers startup and getting rid of any unnecessary processes that are running. This might help.