Won't start

tarvis411 · 10-18-2008, 01:22 AM

Don't know where to put this. When I push the power button the fans start and lights go on, but there is no bios beep, I don't know whether it would be the motherboard, power supply or the hard drive. Sometimes the initial screen shows up but then the computer switches off, then seconds later restarts.

PLEASE HELP!!!

**belfasteddie** · 10-18-2008, 02:12 AM

Try clearing the Bios.

tarvis411 · 10-18-2008, 02:21 AM

As dumb as it sounds, how?

dai · 10-18-2008, 03:08 AM

turn the computer off
remove the power lead from the back
take the side off
remove the cmos battery
move the cmos jumper from pins 1 and 2 to pin 2 and 3 and the back to pins 1 and 2
reinsert the battery
put the side on
replug in the power lead
boot the computer

there can be 2 solder points you touch with a screwdriver
2 pins you touch with a screwdriver or use a jumper
a cmos clear switch or button
there will be a diagram and instructions in your manual

redo the paste on the cpu with some arctic silver
http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_s...structions.htm

post your specs
what are you running
video card
cpu
m/board
ram
power supply
brand
wattage

check the listings in the bios for voltages and tempretures and post them

tarvis411 · 10-19-2008, 01:58 AM

video card: nVidia Galaxy 9500GT
cpu: Intel Core2Duo E8500
m/board: ASUS PK5-SE
ram: 2GB Kingston
power supply: Not sure, 580W
I made it

I don't want to turn it off in case it does it again so I can't check the voltage or temps in bios.

dai · 10-19-2008, 08:43 AM

you will have turn it off to do anything towards fixing it

tarvis411 · 10-19-2008, 08:56 AM

I've already reset the bios, I'm just worried about turning it back off lol.

dai · 10-19-2008, 09:55 AM

take the side off the case and look at the psu label for the brand
did it post and reboot ok after the bios reset,if so it should start again
we need the information of the temps and voltages
check for a bios update for the m/board the reboot was fixed in a bios update
if you have the original bios this could be the cause of the reboot

tarvis411 · 10-22-2008, 06:32 AM

Posted fine, turned it off, came to the screen, found these out:

CPU Temp: 45C/114.5F
MB Temp: 27C/80.5F

VCORE Voltage [1.200V]
3.3V Voltage [3.344V]
5V Voltage [5.160V]
12V Voltage [12.152V]

Now it won't restart or boot.

dai · 10-22-2008, 02:36 PM

look at the label on the side of the power supply for the brand
redo the paste on the cpu

tarvis411 · 10-23-2008, 01:09 AM

Finally found the sticker with the brand on it, the sticker was against the other wall of the case, it's called CODOGEN

The thermal paste I had put on about 2 hours before I originally posted this thread, but I've redone it, and now that I've turned it off, it won't start again.

dai · 10-23-2008, 02:52 AM

how many amps does it list on the label for the 12v line[s]
codogen were ok in the days of win98
but ot for todays computers
see if you can borrow a quality psu to try in it 550W+

tarvis411 · 10-23-2008, 03:16 AM

+12V[1] is 16A
+12V[2] is 18A
Think I'll just buy a new one anyways, what's best suggestion?

dai · 10-23-2008, 04:20 AM

this will run it
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...corsair%2b550w
but if you are planning upgrading the video later go for this one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...corsair%2b750w

tarvis411 · 11-01-2008, 01:41 AM

Ok, so several hundred dollars later I've bought a new power supply, and my computer STILL won't start.
It's NOT the power supply.
If I clear the CMOS (props to dai for telling me how to) then the computer will load fine, but it won't start if I've just turned it off, I have to clear the CMOS again before I can turn it on.
Also, when it does come up again after clearing the CMOS it has 2 options;
1) Press F1 for set up
2) Press F2 to load defaults and continue.

If I press F2 the computer will continue to load fine, but when it's turned off it won't start again.

If I press F1 and set the time and date and check over the settings, when I press F10 to save, once the computer restarts it won't show anything on the screen or POST or beep at all.

Please please please help me.

dai · 11-01-2008, 04:39 AM

try a new cmos battery
stay in the original thread
threads merged

tarvis411 · 11-04-2008, 04:22 AM

Still no dice, and I've honestly had enough of spending money on things that you tell me are the cause of the problem, only to have them not be, up to $135 now and still no working computer. Think I should have just taken it to a professional.

dai · 11-04-2008, 03:55 PM

a bios battery is only a couple of dollars

tarvis411 · 11-05-2008, 02:11 AM

I know they are, I bought one and it still did nothing to help the computer.

dai · 11-05-2008, 07:25 AM

set it up out of the case where you can get a good look at everything
on a piece of cardboard with
cpu
video
ram
speaker
and see if you get post
check you have the correct amount of standoffs no more no less
that they line up with the holes in the m/board
usually 9

10-18-2008, 01:22 AM	#1 (permalink)
tarvis411 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 10 OS: XP	Won't start Don't know where to put this. When I push the power button the fans start and lights go on, but there is no bios beep, I don't know whether it would be the motherboard, power supply or the hard drive. Sometimes the initial screen shows up but then the computer switches off, then seconds later restarts. PLEASE HELP!!!

10-18-2008, 02:12 AM	#2 (permalink)
belfasteddie Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Belfast N.I. Posts: 1,551 OS: Puppy Linux 4.12	Re: Won't start Try clearing the Bios.

10-18-2008, 02:21 AM	#3 (permalink)
tarvis411 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 10 OS: XP	Re: Won't start As dumb as it sounds, how?

10-18-2008, 03:08 AM	#4 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,555 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	Re: Won't start turn the computer off remove the power lead from the back take the side off remove the cmos battery move the cmos jumper from pins 1 and 2 to pin 2 and 3 and the back to pins 1 and 2 reinsert the battery put the side on replug in the power lead boot the computer there can be 2 solder points you touch with a screwdriver 2 pins you touch with a screwdriver or use a jumper a cmos clear switch or button there will be a diagram and instructions in your manual redo the paste on the cpu with some arctic silver http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_s...structions.htm post your specs what are you running video card cpu m/board ram power supply brand wattage check the listings in the bios for voltages and tempretures and post them __________________

10-19-2008, 01:58 AM	#5 (permalink)
tarvis411 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 10 OS: XP	Re: Won't start video card: nVidia Galaxy 9500GT cpu: Intel Core2Duo E8500 m/board: ASUS PK5-SE ram: 2GB Kingston power supply: Not sure, 580W I made it I don't want to turn it off in case it does it again so I can't check the voltage or temps in bios.

10-19-2008, 08:43 AM	#6 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,555 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	Re: Won't start you will have turn it off to do anything towards fixing it __________________

10-19-2008, 08:56 AM	#7 (permalink)
tarvis411 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 10 OS: XP	Re: Won't start I've already reset the bios, I'm just worried about turning it back off lol.

10-19-2008, 09:55 AM	#8 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,555 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	Re: Won't start take the side off the case and look at the psu label for the brand did it post and reboot ok after the bios reset,if so it should start again we need the information of the temps and voltages check for a bios update for the m/board the reboot was fixed in a bios update if you have the original bios this could be the cause of the reboot __________________

10-22-2008, 06:32 AM	#9 (permalink)
tarvis411 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 10 OS: XP	Re: Won't start Posted fine, turned it off, came to the screen, found these out: CPU Temp: 45C/114.5F MB Temp: 27C/80.5F VCORE Voltage [1.200V] 3.3V Voltage [3.344V] 5V Voltage [5.160V] 12V Voltage [12.152V] Now it won't restart or boot.

10-22-2008, 02:36 PM	#10 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,555 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	Re: Won't start look at the label on the side of the power supply for the brand redo the paste on the cpu __________________

10-23-2008, 01:09 AM	#11 (permalink)
tarvis411 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 10 OS: XP	Re: Won't start Finally found the sticker with the brand on it, the sticker was against the other wall of the case, it's called CODOGEN The thermal paste I had put on about 2 hours before I originally posted this thread, but I've redone it, and now that I've turned it off, it won't start again.

10-23-2008, 02:52 AM	#12 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,555 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	Re: Won't start how many amps does it list on the label for the 12v line[s] codogen were ok in the days of win98 but ot for todays computers see if you can borrow a quality psu to try in it 550W+ __________________

10-23-2008, 03:16 AM	#13 (permalink)
tarvis411 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 10 OS: XP	Re: Won't start +12V[1] is 16A +12V[2] is 18A Think I'll just buy a new one anyways, what's best suggestion?

10-23-2008, 04:20 AM	#14 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,555 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	Re: Won't start this will run it http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...corsair%2b550w but if you are planning upgrading the video later go for this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...corsair%2b750w __________________

11-01-2008, 01:41 AM	#15 (permalink)
tarvis411 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 10 OS: XP	Still won't start properly Ok, so several hundred dollars later I've bought a new power supply, and my computer STILL won't start. It's NOT the power supply. If I clear the CMOS (props to dai for telling me how to) then the computer will load fine, but it won't start if I've just turned it off, I have to clear the CMOS again before I can turn it on. Also, when it does come up again after clearing the CMOS it has 2 options; 1) Press F1 for set up 2) Press F2 to load defaults and continue. If I press F2 the computer will continue to load fine, but when it's turned off it won't start again. If I press F1 and set the time and date and check over the settings, when I press F10 to save, once the computer restarts it won't show anything on the screen or POST or beep at all. Please please please help me.

11-01-2008, 04:39 AM	#16 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,555 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	Re: Won't start try a new cmos battery stay in the original thread threads merged __________________

11-04-2008, 04:22 AM	#17 (permalink)
tarvis411 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 10 OS: XP	Re: Won't start Still no dice, and I've honestly had enough of spending money on things that you tell me are the cause of the problem, only to have them not be, up to $135 now and still no working computer. Think I should have just taken it to a professional.

11-04-2008, 03:55 PM	#18 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,555 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	Re: Won't start a bios battery is only a couple of dollars __________________

11-05-2008, 02:11 AM	#19 (permalink)
tarvis411 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 10 OS: XP	Re: Won't start I know they are, I bought one and it still did nothing to help the computer.

11-05-2008, 07:25 AM	#20 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,555 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	Re: Won't start set it up out of the case where you can get a good look at everything on a piece of cardboard with cpu video ram speaker and see if you get post check you have the correct amount of standoffs no more no less that they line up with the holes in the m/board usually 9 __________________