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Old 10-17-2008, 09:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Wont Boot on

I recently purchased some new ram, and i installed it.. loaded computer and it did not detect new ram, so i opened it up again (With computer off) put the new ram in backwards from where it was loaded it.. and the light turned green faintly and fan on.. then poof died

did it again.. light green poof gone

again.. fan doesnt even turn on even shorter life and poof gone

Doesnt even have enough power to load anything on monitor

So i take out new ram and just the default ram that came with computer in it, still not working. I changed the ram on the carpet wearing socks, i heard that could of fried something?

What do i need to do? Buy a new batery for something? Power Suply?
its a dell computer

Forgot to add , the first time i put in the ram the computer didnt detect it, so i think i put it in backwards then when i took it to the floor (Carpet) to put it in the other way it wouldnt turn on.

My friend said he thinks i short circuited it by putting it in backwards and turning it on

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Old 10-17-2008, 10:01 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Wont Boot on

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Welcome to TSF.

You should always ground yourself before working on a PC.

An ESD strap and touching a non painted part of the tower.
http://www.esdproduct.com/ESD_Wrist_Strap.php

Insert the old RAM back into the PC
NOTE: RAM only goes in one way into the slots
Clear the CMOS:
Either jumpering the cmos jumper
or
There is a small battery on the motherboard about the size of a nickel. Remove the battery (CAREFULLY) for 1/2 hour, then reinstall the battery and see if it will POST.

While you are in the case, check the power connections to the MoBo and all other devices.

There is a chance you may have shorted out the mobo or powersupply.
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Old 10-18-2008, 08:30 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Wont Boot on

I will try that but i think i put the second ram in backwards the first time.. and maybe that ruined my computer, will removing the battery help for that 2?
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Re: Wont Boot on

Ok i did took out the battery for 30 mins put it back in and it still wont boot, i think i may of messed it up by booting it with a ram stick in backwards

But it still wont turn on.. light turns green for a second fan turns on for a second then poof off
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Old 10-18-2008, 09:52 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Wont Boot on

you have probably lost the
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m/b
psu
i don't see how you got it in backwards one end may go in but not the whole stick
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You likely shorted it out. However, worth a try to do this:

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i don't see how you got it in backwards one end may go in but not the whole stick
Im not sure if i did get it backwards but when i loaded it first time it made some strange noises.. and it didnt detect the new added ram

So i figured i put it in backwards, so i put it in the other way and then thats when the computer would not turn on fully

Light infront of computer turned on for a second or 2 and the power suply fan... then slowly turned off

Maybe i need a new power suplY?


Edit: anyone suggest anything else? I dont think i would be able to successfully do the bench test without breaking it worste >.<

I un plugged everything and plugged it back in, now the fans seem to stay on but i dont think they are very loud, could barley tell they were on, but the button infront of computer doesnt i stay green like its on.. do i need a new motherboard?

Update: Ok now both fans stay on without dying off, and i am able to open and close the cd drive thing when i press the button, but noting shows up on monitor and no green light is showing infront of the computer case, although there is a green light on the motherboard that is on.

Im going to try to use this computer monitor then gonna mess around some more with the inside of the computer

Sorry for all these post, seems i cant edit for some reason.

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Re: Wont Boot on

you only have a short time to edit
try another power supply in it
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Old 10-18-2008, 03:06 PM   #9 (permalink)
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you only have a short time to edit
try another power supply in it
Wouldnt it not be the power suply since the dvd disc thing is still able to open, and the fans are working still.

Heres what i think now, im thinking maybe the mother drive is broken because i put the ram in backwards (By force) Sincce i discovered one of the clips (White clips on side of ram slot) is broken off.

When i loaded it hte first time, i got some blue screen error, and ignored it for reasons i dont know, and i tried to re load it again before i took out ram.

Then after that it wouldnt turn on anymore
So either the ram got busted or motherboard, not sure about the PSU

But if you think its the PSU i might give it a try, thanks for advice.

Thanks for adding my previous post together too.
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the cpu and video card pull over 90% of the power it does not take much to run the rest
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the cpu and video card pull over 90% of the power it does not take much to run the rest
Which one is the CPU the hard drive?

Also if i was going to replace the motherboard how would i find one that will fit in my case and will be compatable with all my stuff

So i should try a new power suply first?

Did the power suply get damaged from me putting in ram wrong?


Edit: What would be the best way to find a new power suply that will work with my stuff, dont want a super good one, just one that worked just as good as the one i had, just want it to have right voltage and such and cheap

Edit: Im reading about ATX PFC and "standard" psu's
24 pin 20 pins and some stuff that could fry my mohter board, what would be best way to find out what mine needs where are these pins at on my psu

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cpu=central processing unit the one with the fan on top on the m/board
see if you can borrow a power supply to try in it
agp= min of 18amps on the 12v+ line
pcie= min 26amps
being as you don't know what a cpu is can you get a friend who knows a bit more about computers to help you and show and explain things to you
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cpu=central processing unit the one with the fan on top on the m/board
see if you can borrow a power supply to try in it
agp= min of 18amps on the 12v+ line
pcie= min 26amps
being as you don't know what a cpu is can you get a friend who knows a bit more about computers to help you and show and explain things to you
Ill try to borrow a PSU later thanks

Guess ill look on mine to see what kind it is
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Re: Wont Boot on

Got a new PSU and it still wont turn on

Dvd drive still opens and closes

any suggestions?


Edit: If i need a new motherboard do i need to get a dell one because all my components are?

Also could it just be that my ram is dead? Will a computer not boot if the ram is dead?

The motherboard light is green.. dvd drive opens and closes, but infront of the computer no green light. And nothing on my screen, maybe video card?

Edit2: Maybe i killed the DIMMs on my ram? that will cause it to not boot?

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Re: Wont Boot on

have you plugged in the aux power plug into the m/board
reset the cmos

cmos reset
turn the computer off
remove the power lead from the back
take the side off
remove the cmos battery
move the cmos jumper from pins 1 and 2 to pin 2 and 3 and the back to pins 1 and 2
reinsert the battery
put the side on
replug in the power lead
boot the computer

there can be 2 solder points you touch with a screwdriver
2 pins you touch with a screwdriver or use a jumper
a cmos clear switch or button
there will be a diagram and instructions in your manual

boot with the ram out and see if you get the bios beep codes
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