[SOLVED] memory leak in game?

**magnethead** · 07-11-2008, 04:26 PM

I've noticed GTR started to crash to desktop and have other buggy things start happening.

After pulling up task manager, I'm wondering if there's a memory leak? GTR2 didn't used to pull that much VM.

Also, i'm not sure if this is linked to the memory leak or not, but after it's crashed to desktop even once, when i open the game again, it runs fine except for a slow frame rate here and there. I just got done with a session, and as I went by the paddock every lap, it would go from 40-60 FPS down to between 8 and 20 FPS.

If the taskbar confuses you, I'm on XP, but i'm running a vista taskbar hack. But GTR2 ran fine up until just recently [a few weeks ago] (I didn't make any changes except installing rivatuner, and I may dump that?), i've had the vista mod for about 3 or 4 months now.

**wrench97** · 07-11-2008, 06:14 PM

I've had issues with rivatuner causing crashes a while back.

On a side note whats up with speedfan and voltage readings I keep seeing ones that can't be right.

**magnethead** · 07-11-2008, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrench97

I've had issues with rivatuner causing crashes a while back.

On a side note whats up with speedfan and voltage readings I keep seeing ones that can't be right.

so is uninstalling rivatuner it or do i have to remove and reinstall the drivers too?

**wrench97** · 07-12-2008, 03:11 AM

When I had the crashes it was right after installing rivatuner and the driver I uinstalled the driver first stiil crashed so then I uninstalled rivatuner still crashed, then I used driver cleaner and removed all ati related components reinstalled just the driver and it's been fine since. On the other hand I removed rivatuner only from a buddies pc and it stopped freezing in some games.

**magnethead** · 07-12-2008, 06:58 PM

I'll try to remove rivatuner first, then look at the driver issue.

**magnethead** · 07-12-2008, 11:33 PM

removing rivatuner helped a little but not a great margin. Gonna remove/reinstall drivers now.

**magnethead** · 07-12-2008, 11:56 PM

just to rule out anything else, i just tested and ruled out the anti-cd fix. so now for sure it's a driver deal.

**magnethead** · 07-13-2008, 12:13 AM

ok, just reinstalled the gfx card and VIVO drivers, now to find a difference...

**magnethead** · 07-13-2008, 12:28 AM

the game is the only thing left..and I'm not exactly willing to uninstall/reinstall it because of how many mods I have in it (which are internaly attached to the game's mainframe).

rivatuner and the drivers helped a little but not much. drivers had adverse effect as the fan doesn't spool to full speed under load anymore.

edit- It may be a simple deal of the track. Lemans is 8 miles long, and that i'm sure uses lots of memory. So that could be it too.

If I get a 9600GT (512MB) and maybe 1 more gig of RAM (for 3 gigs), think that would help?

**wrench97** · 07-13-2008, 02:29 AM

What is your peak memory usage now when playing?

**magnethead** · 07-13-2008, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrench97

What is your peak memory usage now when playing?

as shown in the screenshot- 1.90

**magnethead** · 07-13-2008, 05:40 PM

found the AA and AF, turned both off.

still a leak, but FPS is up still a little more. 25-35 through the paddock stretch, was 4-10 FPS before.

**linderman** · 07-13-2008, 07:54 PM

i would test with memtest one stick at a time for 2 hours per stick

**magnethead** · 07-13-2008, 08:00 PM

2 hours per stick?

they're crucial ballistix PC2-DDR2-6400 400 mhz. hope they aint bad?

**magnethead** · 07-14-2008, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by linderman

i would test with memtest one stick at a time for 2 hours per stick

not sure how you test sticks independantly?

I'm just using the memtest from my linux boot disk, didn't change any settings. Started it when i went to bed. 6 hours and counting, 71% finished on the total, no errors yet.

**magnethead** · 07-14-2008, 10:08 AM

8 hours and change later, i went ahead and closed the test. I'm not sure which one it was on now (didnt realize theres more than 1 test), but had no errors listed.

**linderman** · 07-14-2008, 02:19 PM

then your memory is ok

but to be sure run the test while only one stick of ram is in the motherboard

i have seen two sticks pass when one of them was defective

**magnethead** · 07-14-2008, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by linderman

then your memory is ok

but to be sure run the test while only one stick of ram is in the motherboard

i have seen two sticks pass when one of them was defective

i'm gonan try to make a few hotlaps at other tracks to see if it's strictly lemans.

**magnethead** · 07-14-2008, 09:41 PM

well, that was a quick answer. It's lemans.

Went to spa (something like 6 miles long), here's the result. This is with everythign in game MAXXED.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...d/memleak5.jpg

edit- holy shiznit on the temps! 1) i need to figure out why the fan dont speed up on the card 2) i bumped PCIE voltage by a tenth in BIOS..looks like i need to reverse that! 3) just hit 88 FPS at spa 4) seconds it told it to start loading lemans, guess what the graph did...skyhigh.

back to lemans, the temps don't go over 70, but the pagefile is well over 2 GB.

**magnethead** · 07-14-2008, 10:36 PM

So I cranked game's video settings to full all.

in synopsis:

removed rivatuner
removed/reinstalled drivers
ran memtest for 8 hours
bumped PCIE volts by 0.1V
turned off AA/AF

and now it's running in the fluid 50 FPS range at lemans except 30's in the main straight
and 80+ FPS at all other tracks (including Spa-francorchamps). Except everywhere but lemans, the GPU temperature goes in the 80's. Lemans stays around 70.

07-11-2008, 04:26 PM	#1 (permalink)
magnethead Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Texas, USA Posts: 3,570 OS: Vista ultimate 32bit My System Blog Entries: 3	[SOLVED] memory leak in game? I've noticed GTR started to crash to desktop and have other buggy things start happening. After pulling up task manager, I'm wondering if there's a memory leak? GTR2 didn't used to pull that much VM. Also, i'm not sure if this is linked to the memory leak or not, but after it's crashed to desktop even once, when i open the game again, it runs fine except for a slow frame rate here and there. I just got done with a session, and as I went by the paddock every lap, it would go from 40-60 FPS down to between 8 and 20 FPS. If the taskbar confuses you, I'm on XP, but i'm running a vista taskbar hack. But GTR2 ran fine up until just recently [a few weeks ago] (I didn't make any changes except installing rivatuner, and I may dump that?), i've had the vista mod for about 3 or 4 months now. __________________ For proper support: what are you running? graphics, cpu, m/board, ram, PSU brand wattage PCI-E requires 26 amps at 12 volts. That's a 650W PSU. Power Supply Info and Selection . Info on thermal compounds & application . TEST PSU USING MULTI-METER . Bench Testing Your System Last edited by magnethead; 07-11-2008 at 04:32 PM.

07-11-2008, 06:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,681 OS: Win7	Re: memory leak in game? I've had issues with rivatuner causing crashes a while back. On a side note whats up with speedfan and voltage readings I keep seeing ones that can't be right. __________________ Power Supply and Selection

07-12-2008, 03:11 AM	#4 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,681 OS: Win7	Re: memory leak in game? When I had the crashes it was right after installing rivatuner and the driver I uinstalled the driver first stiil crashed so then I uninstalled rivatuner still crashed, then I used driver cleaner and removed all ati related components reinstalled just the driver and it's been fine since. On the other hand I removed rivatuner only from a buddies pc and it stopped freezing in some games. __________________ Power Supply and Selection

07-12-2008, 06:58 PM	#5 (permalink)
magnethead Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Texas, USA Posts: 3,570 OS: Vista ultimate 32bit My System Blog Entries: 3	Re: memory leak in game? I'll try to remove rivatuner first, then look at the driver issue. __________________ For proper support: what are you running? graphics, cpu, m/board, ram, PSU brand wattage PCI-E requires 26 amps at 12 volts. That's a 650W PSU. Power Supply Info and Selection . Info on thermal compounds & application . TEST PSU USING MULTI-METER . Bench Testing Your System

07-12-2008, 11:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
magnethead Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Texas, USA Posts: 3,570 OS: Vista ultimate 32bit My System Blog Entries: 3	Re: memory leak in game? removing rivatuner helped a little but not a great margin. Gonna remove/reinstall drivers now. __________________ For proper support: what are you running? graphics, cpu, m/board, ram, PSU brand wattage PCI-E requires 26 amps at 12 volts. That's a 650W PSU. Power Supply Info and Selection . Info on thermal compounds & application . TEST PSU USING MULTI-METER . Bench Testing Your System

07-12-2008, 11:56 PM	#7 (permalink)
magnethead Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Texas, USA Posts: 3,570 OS: Vista ultimate 32bit My System Blog Entries: 3	Re: memory leak in game? just to rule out anything else, i just tested and ruled out the anti-cd fix. so now for sure it's a driver deal. __________________ For proper support: what are you running? graphics, cpu, m/board, ram, PSU brand wattage PCI-E requires 26 amps at 12 volts. That's a 650W PSU. Power Supply Info and Selection . Info on thermal compounds & application . TEST PSU USING MULTI-METER . Bench Testing Your System

07-13-2008, 12:13 AM	#8 (permalink)
magnethead Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Texas, USA Posts: 3,570 OS: Vista ultimate 32bit My System Blog Entries: 3	Re: memory leak in game? ok, just reinstalled the gfx card and VIVO drivers, now to find a difference... __________________ For proper support: what are you running? graphics, cpu, m/board, ram, PSU brand wattage PCI-E requires 26 amps at 12 volts. That's a 650W PSU. Power Supply Info and Selection . Info on thermal compounds & application . TEST PSU USING MULTI-METER . Bench Testing Your System

07-13-2008, 12:28 AM	#9 (permalink)
magnethead Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Texas, USA Posts: 3,570 OS: Vista ultimate 32bit My System Blog Entries: 3	Re: memory leak in game? the game is the only thing left..and I'm not exactly willing to uninstall/reinstall it because of how many mods I have in it (which are internaly attached to the game's mainframe). rivatuner and the drivers helped a little but not much. drivers had adverse effect as the fan doesn't spool to full speed under load anymore. edit- It may be a simple deal of the track. Lemans is 8 miles long, and that i'm sure uses lots of memory. So that could be it too. If I get a 9600GT (512MB) and maybe 1 more gig of RAM (for 3 gigs), think that would help? __________________ For proper support: what are you running? graphics, cpu, m/board, ram, PSU brand wattage PCI-E requires 26 amps at 12 volts. That's a 650W PSU. Power Supply Info and Selection . Info on thermal compounds & application . TEST PSU USING MULTI-METER . Bench Testing Your System Last edited by magnethead; 07-13-2008 at 12:31 AM.

07-13-2008, 02:29 AM	#10 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,681 OS: Win7	Re: memory leak in game? What is your peak memory usage now when playing? __________________ Power Supply and Selection

07-13-2008, 05:40 PM	#12 (permalink)
magnethead Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Texas, USA Posts: 3,570 OS: Vista ultimate 32bit My System Blog Entries: 3	Re: memory leak in game? found the AA and AF, turned both off. still a leak, but FPS is up still a little more. 25-35 through the paddock stretch, was 4-10 FPS before. __________________ For proper support: what are you running? graphics, cpu, m/board, ram, PSU brand wattage PCI-E requires 26 amps at 12 volts. That's a 650W PSU. Power Supply Info and Selection . Info on thermal compounds & application . TEST PSU USING MULTI-METER . Bench Testing Your System

07-13-2008, 07:54 PM	#13 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 20,441 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Re: memory leak in game? i would test with memtest one stick at a time for 2 hours per stick __________________ I still know nothing and I respect that fact, striving to improve and, along the way, help anyone that comes from the place that I used to be! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial

07-13-2008, 08:00 PM	#14 (permalink)
magnethead Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Texas, USA Posts: 3,570 OS: Vista ultimate 32bit My System Blog Entries: 3	Re: memory leak in game? 2 hours per stick? they're crucial ballistix PC2-DDR2-6400 400 mhz. hope they aint bad? __________________ For proper support: what are you running? graphics, cpu, m/board, ram, PSU brand wattage PCI-E requires 26 amps at 12 volts. That's a 650W PSU. Power Supply Info and Selection . Info on thermal compounds & application . TEST PSU USING MULTI-METER . Bench Testing Your System

07-14-2008, 10:08 AM	#16 (permalink)
magnethead Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Texas, USA Posts: 3,570 OS: Vista ultimate 32bit My System Blog Entries: 3	Re: memory leak in game? 8 hours and change later, i went ahead and closed the test. I'm not sure which one it was on now (didnt realize theres more than 1 test), but had no errors listed. __________________ For proper support: what are you running? graphics, cpu, m/board, ram, PSU brand wattage PCI-E requires 26 amps at 12 volts. That's a 650W PSU. Power Supply Info and Selection . Info on thermal compounds & application . TEST PSU USING MULTI-METER . Bench Testing Your System

07-14-2008, 02:19 PM	#17 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 20,441 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Re: memory leak in game? then your memory is ok but to be sure run the test while only one stick of ram is in the motherboard i have seen two sticks pass when one of them was defective __________________ I still know nothing and I respect that fact, striving to improve and, along the way, help anyone that comes from the place that I used to be! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial

07-14-2008, 09:41 PM	#19 (permalink)
magnethead Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Texas, USA Posts: 3,570 OS: Vista ultimate 32bit My System Blog Entries: 3	Re: memory leak in game? well, that was a quick answer. It's lemans. Went to spa (something like 6 miles long), here's the result. This is with everythign in game MAXXED. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...d/memleak5.jpg edit- holy shiznit on the temps! 1) i need to figure out why the fan dont speed up on the card 2) i bumped PCIE voltage by a tenth in BIOS..looks like i need to reverse that! 3) just hit 88 FPS at spa 4) seconds it told it to start loading lemans, guess what the graph did...skyhigh. back to lemans, the temps don't go over 70, but the pagefile is well over 2 GB. __________________ For proper support: what are you running? graphics, cpu, m/board, ram, PSU brand wattage PCI-E requires 26 amps at 12 volts. That's a 650W PSU. Power Supply Info and Selection . Info on thermal compounds & application . TEST PSU USING MULTI-METER . Bench Testing Your System Last edited by magnethead; 07-14-2008 at 09:55 PM.

07-14-2008, 10:36 PM	#20 (permalink)
magnethead Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Texas, USA Posts: 3,570 OS: Vista ultimate 32bit My System Blog Entries: 3	Re: [SOLVED] memory leak in game? So I cranked game's video settings to full all. in synopsis: removed rivatuner removed/reinstalled drivers ran memtest for 8 hours bumped PCIE volts by 0.1V turned off AA/AF and now it's running in the fluid 50 FPS range at lemans except 30's in the main straight and 80+ FPS at all other tracks (including Spa-francorchamps). Except everywhere but lemans, the GPU temperature goes in the 80's. Lemans stays around 70. __________________ For proper support: what are you running? graphics, cpu, m/board, ram, PSU brand wattage PCI-E requires 26 amps at 12 volts. That's a 650W PSU. Power Supply Info and Selection . Info on thermal compounds & application . TEST PSU USING MULTI-METER . Bench Testing Your System