vid card not getting enough power?

furball · 02-14-2008, 01:41 PM

Nvidia vid card = 6800gs 512mb/ddr3 pci-e
powork model pw-600 power supply (i assume thats the name)
pentium 3ghz dual core 2gb ram
ive got the typical 1 sound card 2 ethernet cards 1 dvd drive
Cant imagine all my stuff using more than 600watts?
Ill find me chipset motherboard box if u guys need some info from that

Basicaly what happens is my pc will make a screech noise(thru speakers) an wil reboot i get a nvdia message saying how my vid card isnt gettin enough power and the settings were lowered or something.

Ive had this setup/pc for bout 20 months now and it started doing this occasionally bout 5 months ago. Maybe only once every 2 weeks. Nothing major considerin my pc never crashes. Here last couple days its done it bout 3-4 times a day while im playing lord of rings online which i been playin for 9months no problems. Noob like me probably would just replace with a bigger Power supply but i figured theres something more to it maybe?

Any ideas would be great from yall :) thanks

dai · 02-14-2008, 04:12 PM

all 600w psu's are not equal
yours only puts out 24amps on the 12v+ line
pcie= a min of 26a
you need something like this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139005
Power Supply Information and Selection

furball · 02-22-2008, 01:42 AM

i bought the power supply u mentioned and im still getttin the same problem
http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...rent=nvida.jpg
thats the message i get after i crash and reboots

i cheked to see if my fan was workin an it was, I blew out my card and most of my pc just to get the dust out and i just updated the december (latest) drivers for my vid card just to see if that does anything.
Other than that im confused if the problem continues in a couple days when i start playing again

**speedster123** · 02-22-2008, 05:59 AM

return it then. sometimes it happens. consider this:
http://www.microcenter.com/single_pr...uct_id=0241987

dai · 02-22-2008, 08:27 AM

did you uninstall the old drivers before installing the new ones

furball · 02-22-2008, 09:53 AM

yea will see what happens in couple days i guess. would uthink its a better chance of being the Video card or the Pwr supply being the problem?

dai · 02-22-2008, 10:22 AM

can you get a friend to try the card in their computer

furball · 02-22-2008, 10:55 AM

played lotro like 20 minutes an it crashed lol stupid thing. I doubt i know anyone that has a pci-e PC slot. If i knew 100% it was the card i gues i'd just buy a new one for the heck of it

dai · 02-22-2008, 11:08 AM

if you received an error message post it

furball · 02-22-2008, 02:46 PM

i crashed like 7 times in prob 2hour this morning while tryin to sit on lotro. I decided to buy a new card @bestbuy so picked up a geforce 8500 gt. Doesnt even use the pci-e cable hookup from the supply.... only took bout 15 minutse into the game an bam crashed again. Sigh this is retarded. the only message i get is after it reboots and pops up with the nvdia sayin insufficent pwr. Link i posted earlier http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...rent=nvida.jpg
that doesnt pop up everytime but its the only message i get. So ive tried a new video card and pwr supply now and get the same result. Wow

dai · 02-23-2008, 09:56 AM

between the power supply and the video card comes the m/board
what are your tempretures like including the gpu

furball · 02-23-2008, 05:48 PM

http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...rrent=temp.jpg
I obviously dont know if those #'s are good or bad. Thats the only place i know of how to get temps i dunno if thats what u meant. Just went into bios setup an hardware monitor. (i appreciate your time btw)
My M/board chipset is asus p5pl2
ive got a liquid coolin thing do they only last so long or need some type of maintance?. http://www.pcpartscollection.com/coaqmir8rl.html

furball · 02-23-2008, 06:41 PM

http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...t=100_1319.jpg

Also i d/l some Ntune thing for nvidia; my picture came of blurry but just wanted to post it so u know what i was referring too. Anywys just setting at the desktop it reads gpu1 temp= 50 celcius
Whenever i load up Lotro and move around then alt tab to check it ive seen it get up to 85-90 C then it falls down to 65-70 C while keepin lotro running in the background. I assume thats bad? i duno seems really high?

and if this means anythin its to the right of the temp program
Fans:
system-- 31889rpm
nforce---675pm
aux2 18rpm

dai · 02-24-2008, 07:51 AM

you just need to check water levels occasionally
yours temps are ok
http://www.nvidia.com/object/ntune_5.05.54.00.html
i don't think you have a nforce m/b so this should not be installed
the ASUS AI Booster is the equivilent

furball · 02-24-2008, 06:02 PM

Ive had this pc setup for 2yr come april and dont know anything bout checkin water levels so ive never have. is that something i need to look into i guess

Your sayin 95 celcius is ok on my video card? i figured 200 degrees ferenhieght would be really high. but what do i know :)
I was kinda hopin to hear from you that my video card is fryin for some reason, so least we knew something was wrong. Now it seems were back to nowhere?

http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...t=100_1323.jpg
http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...t=100_1322.jpg

Those are my pics using the Asus ai booster. Again i have no idea what those mean hopefully there good? i changed my pci-e voltage from 1.5 to auto.

**speedster123** · 02-24-2008, 06:13 PM

what ram is installed?
looks as if there is 1.8v feeding them, theres room to up the voltage a bit to try and stabilize the system, if in fact, thats an issue.

furball · 02-24-2008, 08:02 PM

my paper reads ddr2, 2gb(2pc of 1GB) PC-4200/533mhz

dai · 02-25-2008, 09:23 AM

have a look on the ram makers site for the voltage range for your ram

furball · 02-25-2008, 07:09 PM

For whatever reason i havent gotten the insufficient pwr messsages in several days. I can barely play my game for 10-15 minutes before i crash now. Do you think it could be the graphic card overheating? Or do u think that 85-95c is ok? cause ive asked around and they all think that seems to be extremely hot?

02-14-2008, 01:41 PM	#1 (permalink)
furball Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 19 OS: XP	vid card not getting enough power? Nvidia vid card = 6800gs 512mb/ddr3 pci-e powork model pw-600 power supply (i assume thats the name) pentium 3ghz dual core 2gb ram ive got the typical 1 sound card 2 ethernet cards 1 dvd drive Cant imagine all my stuff using more than 600watts? Ill find me chipset motherboard box if u guys need some info from that Basicaly what happens is my pc will make a screech noise(thru speakers) an wil reboot i get a nvdia message saying how my vid card isnt gettin enough power and the settings were lowered or something. Ive had this setup/pc for bout 20 months now and it started doing this occasionally bout 5 months ago. Maybe only once every 2 weeks. Nothing major considerin my pc never crashes. Here last couple days its done it bout 3-4 times a day while im playing lord of rings online which i been playin for 9months no problems. Noob like me probably would just replace with a bigger Power supply but i figured theres something more to it maybe? Any ideas would be great from yall :) thanks

02-14-2008, 04:12 PM	#2 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,664 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	Re: vid card not getting enough power? all 600w psu's are not equal yours only puts out 24amps on the 12v+ line pcie= a min of 26a you need something like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139005 Power Supply Information and Selection __________________

02-22-2008, 01:42 AM	#3 (permalink)
furball Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 19 OS: XP	Re: vid card not getting enough power? i bought the power supply u mentioned and im still getttin the same problem http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...rent=nvida.jpg thats the message i get after i crash and reboots i cheked to see if my fan was workin an it was, I blew out my card and most of my pc just to get the dust out and i just updated the december (latest) drivers for my vid card just to see if that does anything. Other than that im confused if the problem continues in a couple days when i start playing again

02-22-2008, 05:59 AM	#4 (permalink)
speedster123 Mentor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: United States-New York-Long Island Posts: 5,223 OS: xp pro SP3	Re: vid card not getting enough power? return it then. sometimes it happens. consider this: http://www.microcenter.com/single_pr...uct_id=0241987 __________________

02-22-2008, 08:27 AM	#5 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,664 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	Re: vid card not getting enough power? did you uninstall the old drivers before installing the new ones __________________

02-22-2008, 09:53 AM	#6 (permalink)
furball Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 19 OS: XP	Re: vid card not getting enough power? yea will see what happens in couple days i guess. would uthink its a better chance of being the Video card or the Pwr supply being the problem?

02-22-2008, 10:22 AM	#7 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,664 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	Re: vid card not getting enough power? can you get a friend to try the card in their computer __________________

02-22-2008, 10:55 AM	#8 (permalink)
furball Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 19 OS: XP	Re: vid card not getting enough power? played lotro like 20 minutes an it crashed lol stupid thing. I doubt i know anyone that has a pci-e PC slot. If i knew 100% it was the card i gues i'd just buy a new one for the heck of it

02-22-2008, 11:08 AM	#9 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,664 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	Re: vid card not getting enough power? if you received an error message post it __________________

02-22-2008, 02:46 PM	#10 (permalink)
furball Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 19 OS: XP	Re: vid card not getting enough power? i crashed like 7 times in prob 2hour this morning while tryin to sit on lotro. I decided to buy a new card @bestbuy so picked up a geforce 8500 gt. Doesnt even use the pci-e cable hookup from the supply.... only took bout 15 minutse into the game an bam crashed again. Sigh this is retarded. the only message i get is after it reboots and pops up with the nvdia sayin insufficent pwr. Link i posted earlier http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...rent=nvida.jpg that doesnt pop up everytime but its the only message i get. So ive tried a new video card and pwr supply now and get the same result. Wow

02-23-2008, 09:56 AM	#11 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,664 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	Re: vid card not getting enough power? between the power supply and the video card comes the m/board what are your tempretures like including the gpu __________________

02-23-2008, 05:48 PM	#12 (permalink)
furball Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 19 OS: XP	Re: vid card not getting enough power? http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...rrent=temp.jpg I obviously dont know if those #'s are good or bad. Thats the only place i know of how to get temps i dunno if thats what u meant. Just went into bios setup an hardware monitor. (i appreciate your time btw) My M/board chipset is asus p5pl2 ive got a liquid coolin thing do they only last so long or need some type of maintance?. http://www.pcpartscollection.com/coaqmir8rl.html Last edited by furball; 02-23-2008 at 05:56 PM.

02-23-2008, 06:41 PM	#13 (permalink)
furball Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 19 OS: XP	Re: vid card not getting enough power? http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...t=100_1319.jpg Also i d/l some Ntune thing for nvidia; my picture came of blurry but just wanted to post it so u know what i was referring too. Anywys just setting at the desktop it reads gpu1 temp= 50 celcius Whenever i load up Lotro and move around then alt tab to check it ive seen it get up to 85-90 C then it falls down to 65-70 C while keepin lotro running in the background. I assume thats bad? i duno seems really high? and if this means anythin its to the right of the temp program Fans: system-- 31889rpm nforce---675pm aux2 18rpm

02-24-2008, 07:51 AM	#14 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,664 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	Re: vid card not getting enough power? you just need to check water levels occasionally yours temps are ok http://www.nvidia.com/object/ntune_5.05.54.00.html i don't think you have a nforce m/b so this should not be installed the ASUS AI Booster is the equivilent __________________

02-24-2008, 06:02 PM	#15 (permalink)
furball Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 19 OS: XP	Re: vid card not getting enough power? Ive had this pc setup for 2yr come april and dont know anything bout checkin water levels so ive never have. is that something i need to look into i guess Your sayin 95 celcius is ok on my video card? i figured 200 degrees ferenhieght would be really high. but what do i know :) I was kinda hopin to hear from you that my video card is fryin for some reason, so least we knew something was wrong. Now it seems were back to nowhere? http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...t=100_1323.jpg http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...t=100_1322.jpg Those are my pics using the Asus ai booster. Again i have no idea what those mean hopefully there good? i changed my pci-e voltage from 1.5 to auto.

02-24-2008, 06:13 PM	#16 (permalink)
speedster123 Mentor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: United States-New York-Long Island Posts: 5,223 OS: xp pro SP3	Re: vid card not getting enough power? what ram is installed? looks as if there is 1.8v feeding them, theres room to up the voltage a bit to try and stabilize the system, if in fact, thats an issue. __________________

02-24-2008, 08:02 PM	#17 (permalink)
furball Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 19 OS: XP	Re: vid card not getting enough power? my paper reads ddr2, 2gb(2pc of 1GB) PC-4200/533mhz

02-25-2008, 09:23 AM	#18 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,664 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	Re: vid card not getting enough power? have a look on the ram makers site for the voltage range for your ram __________________

02-25-2008, 07:09 PM	#19 (permalink)
furball Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 19 OS: XP	Re: vid card not getting enough power? For whatever reason i havent gotten the insufficient pwr messsages in several days. I can barely play my game for 10-15 minutes before i crash now. Do you think it could be the graphic card overheating? Or do u think that 85-95c is ok? cause ive asked around and they all think that seems to be extremely hot?