PSU exploded

willforbes · 10-14-2007, 09:26 AM

Hi,

My Power Supply recently exploded, it is/was a “HIPER HPU – 4S525” power supply. It has many, many wires petruding from it which I’ve unplugged and taken completely out of the system (do you buy these sperately or do they come attached to the PSU? apparently its unservicable inside so im guessing they come attached). I need help on the best reasonably priced (£100 or lower) new one. Ill just detail what it says on the power supply unit and what my system hardware consists of:

On the PSU:
HIPER High Performance Group HPU-4S525
Supports AMD & INTEL

AC Input : 100 – 120Vac/200 – 240Vac 8/5A 60/ 50Hz
DC Input : +3.3v +5v +12v1 +12v2 -12v +5VSB
Max Output Current : 34A 34A 20A 17A 0.8A 2.5A
Max Combined Wattage : 270W 360W 9.6W 12.5W
505W 22.1W
Peak Load : 525W

Inside my system:
Foxconn Compete series motherboard 945G7MA
Radeon X1950 series vid card
250GB Hard Drive
sony dvd rom drive
1 x main fan, fan on motherboard and fan on vid card
windows xp home

Ive found what appears to be a decent card:

http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/sto...m=null&tm=null

but is it good enough? i know pretty much everything else about pcs BUT power supplies. thanks guys

**mattlock** · 10-14-2007, 10:06 AM

I'm not from the UK but alot of our techs say PCWorld is the worst place in Europe to spend you hard earned money.

Here are some better PSUs to choose from in your price range from a better Vendor.

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/114941
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/114933
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/127689
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/119765

Also, this is a hradware issue so I'm going to have this thread moved to the PSU forum in the Hardware section.

**koala** · 10-14-2007, 10:10 AM

I hate to disagree with you Matt

but PC World is probably the worst place in the UK you can go to for expert computer help and good prices.

**mattlock** · 10-14-2007, 10:15 AM

That was a pretty bad typo. I meant "the Worst place", not "The Place". That's why I linked to Ebuyer.

Thanks for pointing that out Koala, I editted the post.

willforbes · 10-14-2007, 11:11 AM

thank you so much guys, great help. never trust a salesman. peace

**mattlock** · 10-14-2007, 11:18 AM

You're welcome Will. Please let us know which one you decide on, and if you have any other problems.

willforbes · 10-14-2007, 11:29 AM

just to clear up, does the unit have all of the wires/cables/pins already attached when you buy it? or do you have to solder them all on yourself?

~~IAmNutsAboutPCs~~ · 10-14-2007, 11:33 AM

Usually they come on attached but if they don't you don't solder them on... they just clip into jacks.

This is a PSU which will work on your system from one of the best suppliers in the UK:

http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.aspx?sku=329153

**mattlock** · 10-14-2007, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IAmNutsAboutPCs

Usually they come on attached but if they don't you don't solder them on... they just clip into jacks.

This is a PSU which will work on your system from one of the best suppliers in the UK:

http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.aspx?sku=329153

As Mikey said, there is nothing to solder. In fact this goes for all PC upgrades these days. The days of soldering on PCs are long gone.

As for the power supply to buy. Seasonic is the Top Dog in power supply manufacturing period. All the units I linked to are made by Seasonic.

The Tagan is made by Topower (I believe) a middle of the road OEM at best.

~~IAmNutsAboutPCs~~ · 10-14-2007, 11:53 AM

Here we go:

http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.aspx?sku=329151

Komplett sell a few Seasonic's. :)

willforbes · 10-14-2007, 12:09 PM

yea i was thinking of getting this psu http://www.ebuyer.com/product/127689 and this video card http://www.ebuyer.com/product/119203 When my psu exploded i had a radeon x850xt and i was just about to buy one of those. do you think the power supply is good?

~~IAmNutsAboutPCs~~ · 10-14-2007, 12:12 PM

If you have the cash then go for the 512mb version of the X1950 Pro. The 256mb will just about be good enough for moderate gaming... if you don't do gaming the the 256mb will do just fine.

Mikey.

**koala** · 10-14-2007, 12:17 PM

You should be fine with that combination, depending on the rest of your system specs. Enter your full system specs into this power calculator, and add 30% to the total to allow for PSU inefficiency.

I chose the Sapphire model for my PC because at the time it was the only overclocked X1950Pro 256mb available. The Asus model is £13 cheaper and looks to have the same overclocked settings. Its cooling system might not be as good as the Sapphire's though.

256mb VRAM is good enough to play most new games at full settings. You need 512mb if you play at very high resolutions, over 1600x1200.

willforbes · 10-14-2007, 12:17 PM

dude, who the hell doesnt do gaming and has a radeon x1950pro???!! you must be kidding! anyway do you think the psu is ok?

~~IAmNutsAboutPCs~~ · 10-14-2007, 12:20 PM

Quite a few. :) Editors, photoshoppers ETC.

Yes the PSU is fine.

Look at koala's post above you.

willforbes · 10-14-2007, 12:27 PM

yea i was thinking of buying a HP 20" TFT reflective screen as well. do you think id need a 512mb for that?

**koala** · 10-14-2007, 12:31 PM

Check the monitor's native resolution. This gives the clearest display on TFT monitors so you'll want to play games and run apps at this resolution. If it's high then go for the card with more RAM.

willforbes · 10-14-2007, 12:39 PM

that aside (considering that will be AFTER i get the psu), will that seasonic that ive chosen be compatible with my graphics card? as that needs its own power supply

~~IAmNutsAboutPCs~~ · 10-14-2007, 12:50 PM

Yes. :)

willforbes · 10-14-2007, 01:02 PM

thatnks guys, you guys rule! u dont know how important you are to everyone!

10-14-2007, 09:26 AM	#1 (permalink)
willforbes Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 8 OS: Windows XP home edition	PSU exploded Hi, My Power Supply recently exploded, it is/was a “HIPER HPU – 4S525” power supply. It has many, many wires petruding from it which I’ve unplugged and taken completely out of the system (do you buy these sperately or do they come attached to the PSU? apparently its unservicable inside so im guessing they come attached). I need help on the best reasonably priced (£100 or lower) new one. Ill just detail what it says on the power supply unit and what my system hardware consists of: On the PSU: HIPER High Performance Group HPU-4S525 Supports AMD & INTEL AC Input : 100 – 120Vac/200 – 240Vac 8/5A 60/ 50Hz DC Input : +3.3v +5v +12v1 +12v2 -12v +5VSB Max Output Current : 34A 34A 20A 17A 0.8A 2.5A Max Combined Wattage : 270W 360W 9.6W 12.5W 505W 22.1W Peak Load : 525W Inside my system: Foxconn Compete series motherboard 945G7MA Radeon X1950 series vid card 250GB Hard Drive sony dvd rom drive 1 x main fan, fan on motherboard and fan on vid card windows xp home Ive found what appears to be a decent card: http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/sto...m=null&tm=null but is it good enough? i know pretty much everything else about pcs BUT power supplies. thanks guys

10-14-2007, 10:06 AM	#2 (permalink)
mattlock Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 4,183 OS: XP SP2, Win 7 Beta, Win 7 RC My System	Re: PSU exploded I'm not from the UK but alot of our techs say PCWorld is the worst place in Europe to spend you hard earned money. Here are some better PSUs to choose from in your price range from a better Vendor. http://www.ebuyer.com/product/114941 http://www.ebuyer.com/product/114933 http://www.ebuyer.com/product/127689 http://www.ebuyer.com/product/119765 Also, this is a hradware issue so I'm going to have this thread moved to the PSU forum in the Hardware section. __________________ Matt Everest-Thermal Paste Instruction-Power Supply Info-Sensorview PSU Calculator-Speedfan-Bench Test Help TSF Fight Disease. It's Free! Last edited by mattlock; 10-14-2007 at 10:12 AM.

10-14-2007, 10:10 AM	#3 (permalink)
koala Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK Posts: 12,350 OS: XP/7/Ubuntu My System	Re: PSU exploded I hate to disagree with you Matt but PC World is probably the worst place in the UK you can go to for expert computer help and good prices. __________________ New members: Subscribe to your thread (Thread Tools) to receive an instant email notification when you get a reply. TSF Folding@Home Team 85015 - details here

10-14-2007, 10:15 AM	#4 (permalink)
mattlock Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 4,183 OS: XP SP2, Win 7 Beta, Win 7 RC My System	Re: PSU exploded That was a pretty bad typo. I meant "the Worst place", not "The Place". That's why I linked to Ebuyer. Thanks for pointing that out Koala, I editted the post. __________________ Matt Everest-Thermal Paste Instruction-Power Supply Info-Sensorview PSU Calculator-Speedfan-Bench Test Help TSF Fight Disease. It's Free!

10-14-2007, 11:11 AM	#5 (permalink)
willforbes Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 8 OS: Windows XP home edition	Re: PSU exploded thank you so much guys, great help. never trust a salesman. peace

10-14-2007, 11:18 AM	#6 (permalink)
mattlock Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 4,183 OS: XP SP2, Win 7 Beta, Win 7 RC My System	Re: PSU exploded You're welcome Will. Please let us know which one you decide on, and if you have any other problems. __________________ Matt Everest-Thermal Paste Instruction-Power Supply Info-Sensorview PSU Calculator-Speedfan-Bench Test Help TSF Fight Disease. It's Free!

10-14-2007, 11:29 AM	#7 (permalink)
willforbes Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 8 OS: Windows XP home edition	Re: PSU exploded just to clear up, does the unit have all of the wires/cables/pins already attached when you buy it? or do you have to solder them all on yourself?

10-14-2007, 11:33 AM	#8 (permalink)
~~IAmNutsAboutPCs~~ Troubled Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: In Front of PC, UK Posts: 744 OS: Windows XP SP2 Build 2600 My System	Re: PSU exploded Usually they come on attached but if they don't you don't solder them on... they just clip into jacks. This is a PSU which will work on your system from one of the best suppliers in the UK: http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.aspx?sku=329153

10-14-2007, 11:53 AM	#10 (permalink)
~~IAmNutsAboutPCs~~ Troubled Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: In Front of PC, UK Posts: 744 OS: Windows XP SP2 Build 2600 My System	Re: PSU exploded Here we go: http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.aspx?sku=329151 Komplett sell a few Seasonic's. :)

10-14-2007, 12:09 PM	#11 (permalink)
willforbes Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 8 OS: Windows XP home edition	Re: PSU exploded yea i was thinking of getting this psu http://www.ebuyer.com/product/127689 and this video card http://www.ebuyer.com/product/119203 When my psu exploded i had a radeon x850xt and i was just about to buy one of those. do you think the power supply is good?

10-14-2007, 12:12 PM	#12 (permalink)
~~IAmNutsAboutPCs~~ Troubled Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: In Front of PC, UK Posts: 744 OS: Windows XP SP2 Build 2600 My System	Re: PSU exploded If you have the cash then go for the 512mb version of the X1950 Pro. The 256mb will just about be good enough for moderate gaming... if you don't do gaming the the 256mb will do just fine. Mikey.

10-14-2007, 12:17 PM	#13 (permalink)
koala Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK Posts: 12,350 OS: XP/7/Ubuntu My System	Re: PSU exploded You should be fine with that combination, depending on the rest of your system specs. Enter your full system specs into this power calculator, and add 30% to the total to allow for PSU inefficiency. I chose the Sapphire model for my PC because at the time it was the only overclocked X1950Pro 256mb available. The Asus model is £13 cheaper and looks to have the same overclocked settings. Its cooling system might not be as good as the Sapphire's though. 256mb VRAM is good enough to play most new games at full settings. You need 512mb if you play at very high resolutions, over 1600x1200. __________________ New members: Subscribe to your thread (Thread Tools) to receive an instant email notification when you get a reply. TSF Folding@Home Team 85015 - details here

10-14-2007, 12:17 PM	#14 (permalink)
willforbes Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 8 OS: Windows XP home edition	Re: PSU exploded dude, who the hell doesnt do gaming and has a radeon x1950pro???!! you must be kidding! anyway do you think the psu is ok?

10-14-2007, 12:20 PM	#15 (permalink)
~~IAmNutsAboutPCs~~ Troubled Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: In Front of PC, UK Posts: 744 OS: Windows XP SP2 Build 2600 My System	Re: PSU exploded Quite a few. :) Editors, photoshoppers ETC. Yes the PSU is fine. Look at koala's post above you.

10-14-2007, 12:27 PM	#16 (permalink)
willforbes Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 8 OS: Windows XP home edition	Re: PSU exploded yea i was thinking of buying a HP 20" TFT reflective screen as well. do you think id need a 512mb for that?

10-14-2007, 12:31 PM	#17 (permalink)
koala Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK Posts: 12,350 OS: XP/7/Ubuntu My System	Re: PSU exploded Check the monitor's native resolution. This gives the clearest display on TFT monitors so you'll want to play games and run apps at this resolution. If it's high then go for the card with more RAM. __________________ New members: Subscribe to your thread (Thread Tools) to receive an instant email notification when you get a reply. TSF Folding@Home Team 85015 - details here

10-14-2007, 12:39 PM	#18 (permalink)
willforbes Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 8 OS: Windows XP home edition	Re: PSU exploded that aside (considering that will be AFTER i get the psu), will that seasonic that ive chosen be compatible with my graphics card? as that needs its own power supply

10-14-2007, 12:50 PM	#19 (permalink)
~~IAmNutsAboutPCs~~ Troubled Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: In Front of PC, UK Posts: 744 OS: Windows XP SP2 Build 2600 My System	Re: PSU exploded Yes. :)

10-14-2007, 01:02 PM	#20 (permalink)
willforbes Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 8 OS: Windows XP home edition	Re: PSU exploded thatnks guys, you guys rule! u dont know how important you are to everyone!