BSOD think its RAM?

vtech · 07-13-2007, 11:34 PM

Hi. I got a new computer last month and it went perfectly. But I went on vacation a week agao and now I came back and am ecpirencing a problem. I went to play some HALO CE and for a little while i played it froze my game. So i just exited the game and thought it was a little problem no biggy. Bu thrn later that day I played again and it froze again and i just waited on the screen unitl it said network connection lost and so i then rejoined again and a couple seconds later froze and gave me a BSOD and restarted pc. I then downloaded memtest cause someone told me to check with that and then when i started testing and around 5.3% It gave me a BSOD and restarted my pc. Any ideas, could it be the ram? I got 2 GS of ram. How can I fix this. :( thanks. Sorry if this is in wrong section.

~~Shirtmax~~ · 07-14-2007, 12:02 AM

Sounds like a Vista driver problem or your computer is too weak to handle such a ram hungry game, but what do I know? To get the hardcore computer helpers to help you, you need to add all the details about your system that you can.

Since it's a brand new computer, look at any paper work that came with it and add all the hardware details that you can. No one can help you until you do.

**Kalim** · 07-14-2007, 07:39 AM

Hi vtech

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shirtmax

Sounds like a Vista driver problem or your computer is too weak to handle such a ram hungry game, but what do I know?

How do you know it's Vista when the OP didn't state that and rather states XP in his profile?

vtech: Which Memtest did you run that gave you a BSOD? Memtest will not give you a BSOD, since it doesn't run inside windows, Windows gives you a BSOD when it encounters errors after its loaded up.

Please list your system specs following this: stickies

For RAM, run these diagnostics: Windows Memory Diagnostic Tool and Memtest86+. (2 hours each is OK)

Run each with one stick of RAM in a each slot, to test the RAM and the slots. let us know the results.

vtech · 07-14-2007, 10:30 AM

Ok. sorry I do have vista home premium I just didn't update my profile for a while. Halo only takes up about 256mb but I run halo 2 vista fine without any blue screen and that game takes up 1GB. I will try what Kalim said and post my system specs now and the other stuff later. I ran memtest3.5

System specs from the system specs program:

Windows: Windows NT6.0 (Build 6000)
Internet Explorer: 7.0.6000.16473
Memory (RAM): 2046 MB
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+
CPU Speed: 3029.8 MHz
Sound card: Speakers (High Definition Audio
Display Adapters: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS | NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS | RDPDD Chained DD | RDP Encoder Mirror Driver
Screen Resolution: 1280 X 1024 - 32 bit
:
Network Adapters: NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller
CD / DVD Drives: D: TSSTcorpCD/DVDW SH-S183L
:
COM Ports: COM1
LPT Ports: LPT1
Mouse: 5 Button Wheel Mouse Present
Hard Disks: C: 465.8GB
Hard Disks - Free: C: 376.3GB
USB Controllers: 2 host controllers.
Firewire (1394): Not Detected
:
Manufacturer: Phoenix Technologies, LTD
Product Make: System Product Name
:
AC Power Status: OnLine
BIOS Info:
Time Zone: Eastern Standard Time
Battery: No Battery
Motherboard: ASUSTeK Computer INC. M2N-E
Modem: Not detected

Ok I ran memtest3.5 again to show u guys the blue screen message but this time it didnt give me a BSOD but gave me errors. Here are the pics:

error message:

16 errors? :( :

I made a booted disc of memtes86+ but Idk how to boot from it. Also I did memtest3.5 and at 7.4% it gave me about 324 errors..Oh my whats going on? :(

I just played again for about 20 minutes and then it didnt freeze but it looked like it was gona restarted but it didnt it just stood there on a black screen. Until I restarted it myself. After restarting I got the BSOD, here a pic:

vtech · 07-15-2007, 09:16 AM

So is there anything I can do from the pics above? Do I still have to try the two programs Kalim said? Also if I do how do I make my disc bootable when i burned the isos of the two?

**Kalim** · 07-15-2007, 09:29 AM

Hi vtech.

Sorry I didn't know you were on Vista, but the in-Windows Memtest is also not accurate enough, so we'll see.

The whole procedure is as follows:

Place a CDR/RW in the drive, start up Nero or something like ImgBurn and burn the ISO image file onto a CD. Restart the computer, hit F8 at POST, try to access "boot from" menu at startup and change the primary boot drive to CD-ROM (1st boot drive). It should then run Memtest that you have on your CD, inside the drive.

Then see how it goes.

vtech · 07-15-2007, 09:32 AM

I burned the iso on an DVD-R. Wil it still work? Also what do I do when I'm in memetest or it will start testing by slef? Also do I have to change the boot order back to how it was after I'm done?

vtech · 07-15-2007, 09:56 AM

I got errors :(

**Kalim** · 07-15-2007, 10:45 AM

Wow, 110,000 errors... that's a lot!

Is your RAM overclocked? Set it to default if it is.

Take out one stick of RAM, and test again. Then move the RAM stick into a different slot and test. Do this for both of the RAM sticks in both slots.

Yes, as you know now, Memtest runs automatically. Exit will make your system reboot and you can change the boot order back the way you first set it to CD-ROM first )press F8 and set to first HD).

vtech · 07-15-2007, 10:50 AM

My RAM isn't overclocked. For how long should I test each RAM on both slots?

**Kalim** · 07-15-2007, 10:57 AM

Until it passes Test#5.

Which RAM have you got installed? It's running at DDR2-861, which may be a little high depending on the RAM concerned.

vtech · 07-15-2007, 11:13 AM

If you mean what kind of RAM I got its 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)

**Kalim** · 07-15-2007, 11:36 AM

Well, yes, and which brand/model is it?

Most DDR2-800 RAM can run at 861MHz but not if it's low quality.

vtech · 07-15-2007, 11:40 AM

Corsair/twin2x2048-6400c4

**Kalim** · 07-15-2007, 11:46 AM

That will run such speeds fine.

Carry on with the RAM and slot testing.

vtech · 07-15-2007, 11:55 AM

There are 4 slots and 2 sticks of RAM. Its set up like this:

Stick,Empty slot,Stick,empty slot.

Do I just check the stick on those two slots or what?

dai · 07-15-2007, 12:33 PM

check the ram 1 stick at a time
the 7e error is caused by numerous different things
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-gb/library/ms795746.aspx
always include your power supply details in your system specs

**Kalim** · 07-15-2007, 12:38 PM

As dai mentioned, take one stick out and leave one in. Run the test.

Then swap the other stick in it's place leaving one in again. Run the test.

If you get errors, then try inserting one stick of RAM in the second slot which is usually occupied. Run the test.

Then swap the other stick of RAM in the second slot. Run the test.

If you get errors in both slots for both RAM, then it'll be RAM corruption.

vtech · 07-15-2007, 03:19 PM

Any advice on how I can ground my self and where not to touch the RAM at so I dont ruin it or something. :P

Also a different BSOD when playing halo for some time:

07-13-2007, 11:34 PM	#1 (permalink)
vtech Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 151 OS: vista	BSOD think its RAM? Hi. I got a new computer last month and it went perfectly. But I went on vacation a week agao and now I came back and am ecpirencing a problem. I went to play some HALO CE and for a little while i played it froze my game. So i just exited the game and thought it was a little problem no biggy. Bu thrn later that day I played again and it froze again and i just waited on the screen unitl it said network connection lost and so i then rejoined again and a couple seconds later froze and gave me a BSOD and restarted pc. I then downloaded memtest cause someone told me to check with that and then when i started testing and around 5.3% It gave me a BSOD and restarted my pc. Any ideas, could it be the ram? I got 2 GS of ram. How can I fix this. :( thanks. Sorry if this is in wrong section. __________________ TECH9

07-14-2007, 12:02 AM	#2 (permalink)
~~Shirtmax~~ Register user Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: California Posts: 11 OS: XP	Re: BSOD think its RAM? Sounds like a Vista driver problem or your computer is too weak to handle such a ram hungry game, but what do I know? To get the hardcore computer helpers to help you, you need to add all the details about your system that you can. Since it's a brand new computer, look at any paper work that came with it and add all the hardware details that you can. No one can help you until you do.

07-14-2007, 10:30 AM	#4 (permalink)
vtech Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 151 OS: vista	Re: BSOD think its RAM? Ok. sorry I do have vista home premium I just didn't update my profile for a while. Halo only takes up about 256mb but I run halo 2 vista fine without any blue screen and that game takes up 1GB. I will try what Kalim said and post my system specs now and the other stuff later. I ran memtest3.5 System specs from the system specs program: Windows: Windows NT6.0 (Build 6000) Internet Explorer: 7.0.6000.16473 Memory (RAM): 2046 MB CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+ CPU Speed: 3029.8 MHz Sound card: Speakers (High Definition Audio Display Adapters: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS \| NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS \| RDPDD Chained DD \| RDP Encoder Mirror Driver Screen Resolution: 1280 X 1024 - 32 bit : Network Adapters: NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller CD / DVD Drives: D: TSSTcorpCD/DVDW SH-S183L : COM Ports: COM1 LPT Ports: LPT1 Mouse: 5 Button Wheel Mouse Present Hard Disks: C: 465.8GB Hard Disks - Free: C: 376.3GB USB Controllers: 2 host controllers. Firewire (1394): Not Detected : Manufacturer: Phoenix Technologies, LTD Product Make: System Product Name : AC Power Status: OnLine BIOS Info: Time Zone: Eastern Standard Time Battery: No Battery Motherboard: ASUSTeK Computer INC. M2N-E Modem: Not detected Ok I ran memtest3.5 again to show u guys the blue screen message but this time it didnt give me a BSOD but gave me errors. Here are the pics: error message: 16 errors? :( : I made a booted disc of memtes86+ but Idk how to boot from it. Also I did memtest3.5 and at 7.4% it gave me about 324 errors..Oh my whats going on? :( I just played again for about 20 minutes and then it didnt freeze but it looked like it was gona restarted but it didnt it just stood there on a black screen. Until I restarted it myself. After restarting I got the BSOD, here a pic: __________________ TECH9 Last edited by vtech : 07-14-2007 at 02:50 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost - Please wait 24 hours before bumping your thread

07-15-2007, 09:16 AM	#5 (permalink)
vtech Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 151 OS: vista	Re: BSOD think its RAM? So is there anything I can do from the pics above? Do I still have to try the two programs Kalim said? Also if I do how do I make my disc bootable when i burned the isos of the two? __________________ TECH9 Last edited by vtech : 07-15-2007 at 09:29 AM.

07-15-2007, 09:29 AM	#6 (permalink)
Kalim Roaming To Help Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5,609 OS: Many	Re: BSOD think its RAM? Hi vtech. Sorry I didn't know you were on Vista, but the in-Windows Memtest is also not accurate enough, so we'll see. The whole procedure is as follows: Place a CDR/RW in the drive, start up Nero or something like ImgBurn and burn the ISO image file onto a CD. Restart the computer, hit F8 at POST, try to access "boot from" menu at startup and change the primary boot drive to CD-ROM (1st boot drive). It should then run Memtest that you have on your CD, inside the drive. Then see how it goes.

07-15-2007, 09:32 AM	#7 (permalink)
vtech Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 151 OS: vista	Re: BSOD think its RAM? I burned the iso on an DVD-R. Wil it still work? Also what do I do when I'm in memetest or it will start testing by slef? Also do I have to change the boot order back to how it was after I'm done? __________________ TECH9

07-15-2007, 09:56 AM	#8 (permalink)
vtech Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 151 OS: vista	Re: BSOD think its RAM? I got errors :( __________________ TECH9

07-15-2007, 10:45 AM	#9 (permalink)
Kalim Roaming To Help Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5,609 OS: Many	Re: BSOD think its RAM? Wow, 110,000 errors... that's a lot! Is your RAM overclocked? Set it to default if it is. Take out one stick of RAM, and test again. Then move the RAM stick into a different slot and test. Do this for both of the RAM sticks in both slots. Yes, as you know now, Memtest runs automatically. Exit will make your system reboot and you can change the boot order back the way you first set it to CD-ROM first )press F8 and set to first HD).

07-15-2007, 10:50 AM	#10 (permalink)
vtech Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 151 OS: vista	Re: BSOD think its RAM? My RAM isn't overclocked. For how long should I test each RAM on both slots? __________________ TECH9

07-15-2007, 10:57 AM	#11 (permalink)
Kalim Roaming To Help Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5,609 OS: Many	Re: BSOD think its RAM? Until it passes Test#5. Which RAM have you got installed? It's running at DDR2-861, which may be a little high depending on the RAM concerned.

07-15-2007, 11:13 AM	#12 (permalink)
vtech Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 151 OS: vista	Re: BSOD think its RAM? If you mean what kind of RAM I got its 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) __________________ TECH9

07-15-2007, 11:36 AM	#13 (permalink)
Kalim Roaming To Help Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5,609 OS: Many	Re: BSOD think its RAM? Well, yes, and which brand/model is it? Most DDR2-800 RAM can run at 861MHz but not if it's low quality.

07-15-2007, 11:40 AM	#14 (permalink)
vtech Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 151 OS: vista	Re: BSOD think its RAM? Corsair/twin2x2048-6400c4 __________________ TECH9

07-15-2007, 11:46 AM	#15 (permalink)
Kalim Roaming To Help Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5,609 OS: Many	Re: BSOD think its RAM? That will run such speeds fine. Carry on with the RAM and slot testing.

07-15-2007, 11:55 AM	#16 (permalink)
vtech Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 151 OS: vista	Re: BSOD think its RAM? There are 4 slots and 2 sticks of RAM. Its set up like this: Stick,Empty slot,Stick,empty slot. Do I just check the stick on those two slots or what? __________________ TECH9

07-15-2007, 12:33 PM	#17 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 41,784 OS: vista 32x ultimate retail	Re: BSOD think its RAM? check the ram 1 stick at a time the 7e error is caused by numerous different things http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-gb/library/ms795746.aspx always include your power supply details in your system specs __________________

07-15-2007, 12:38 PM	#18 (permalink)
Kalim Roaming To Help Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5,609 OS: Many	Re: BSOD think its RAM? As dai mentioned, take one stick out and leave one in. Run the test. Then swap the other stick in it's place leaving one in again. Run the test. If you get errors, then try inserting one stick of RAM in the second slot which is usually occupied. Run the test. Then swap the other stick of RAM in the second slot. Run the test. If you get errors in both slots for both RAM, then it'll be RAM corruption.

07-15-2007, 03:19 PM	#19 (permalink)
vtech Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 151 OS: vista	Re: BSOD think its RAM? Any advice on how I can ground my self and where not to touch the RAM at so I dont ruin it or something. :P Also a different BSOD when playing halo for some time: __________________ TECH9 Last edited by vtech : 07-15-2007 at 03:48 PM.