Overheating = Crashing? [RESOLVED]

sleppy · 06-03-2007, 09:16 AM

When I start playing a FPS game, almost always my computer freezes, and I have to shut my power off and back on. This probably started when I got a cheap($20) Power Supply put into my computer after my old one burned out.

My question is: is there a way to find out if im crashing due to overheating, or maybe its something esle that is causing it?

*it could also be my mobo, because I got the mobo and PS put in at the same time*

Tumbleweed36 · 06-03-2007, 09:50 AM

You can run SensorViewPro and it will tell you some things like temps and voltages. However, if you purchased a $20 power supply, you can almost bet that is your problem. A decent power supply will cost you $100 or more for a rig that has any power at all.

Here is the link if interested in this program that tells some of that:

http://www.softpedia.com/progDownloa...oad-29890.html

sleppy · 06-03-2007, 03:18 PM

Thanks, I'll download it and observe the temps; if anything, I will just buy a new power supply.

What is suppose to be an average temp on cpu and sys?

Also, does anyone know any good tutorials/tips on installing a power supply?

sleppy · 06-03-2007, 04:38 PM

Okay - I do believe it is my PSU.

Can someone please aid me on how to pick out the right Power Supply for my system?

Thanks! :)

Tumbleweed36 · 06-03-2007, 05:42 PM

Go HERE and read this information and you will know what you need after you use the Calculator. Be sure when you use the calculator to add 30% to what you get.

When finished, come back and post your results and we will discuss what is most appropriate for your needs.

sleppy · 06-03-2007, 06:43 PM

315, including the 30%. Although, I didn't know a few things for the calculations. Sounds quite low too..:>

Tumbleweed36 · 06-03-2007, 07:06 PM

Post your specs so I can take a double check. That also sounds very low to me.

sleppy · 06-03-2007, 07:08 PM

Operating System: (WinXP Professional 5.1 Service Pack 2 (Build #2600)) ¤
Memory Usage: (Usage: 479/1024MB (46.78%)
Video Card: ati 9550 pro
Monitor: (Plug and Play Monitor)
CPU Info: (1 CPU - AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3400+, 2.41 GHz, L1: 64KB L2: 512KB (3% Load))
Hard Disks: (Total/Free: 68.75/21.09GB ¤ Total/Free space on: C: 31.48/9.14GB ¤ E: 37.27/11.96GB)
Connection/Network Interfaces: (#1 (Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC - Packet Scheduler Miniport (100Mb/s) 69.53MB In, 31.72MB Out))

I also have led fan on side panel

Tumbleweed36 · 06-03-2007, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleppy

315, including the 30%. Although, I didn't know a few things for the calculations. Sounds quite low too..:>

I actually had to guess on things like number of CD/Roms, USB devices, etc. Anyway, I would estimate from what I used that your total would be very about 375 to 400 allowing for some capacitor aging and the 30% as what you need. If you add anything, you would need to allow for that. My recommendation would be to put a 450 or 500 watt unit in this rig to allow for some changes as you wish to upgrade.

While browsing around (understand, this is something that will last into the future as you upgrade and not needed at this time), I found this exceptional deal on an Antec Trio 550 after mail in rebate:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371002

What I am saying is that this would be more than you need, but is so reasonably priced for this unit at $74.99, that you might want to go a little overboard so you can upgrade later with no problem. You will be pushed to find a good brand name power supply even in the 450 watt range at this price and this unit is simply outstanding.

Please understand, I am not trying to bump you up to a much higher power supply, but saw the deal and wanted to point that out to you. It is your decision and you can look for a good brand name in your price range.

sleppy · 06-03-2007, 08:34 PM

I'm looking at the reviews, and many people are saying it dies very fast.

Tumbleweed36 · 06-03-2007, 08:47 PM

I have had no problems with the Trio version and they are made by Seasonic, so an excellent supply IMHO. Many of the techs on here recommend them highly. Antec has a great RMA process, so with their warranty, if anything happens, you are covered. The NEO HE power supplies by Antec are also excellent. You might also look at a Seasonic (best of the best IMHO) in the 500 watt range or even a Corsair 520 which is a top-of-the-line supply. I might mention you can also get some excellent deals on new supplies at Ebay.

Tumbleweed36 · 06-03-2007, 08:50 PM

Here is a great supply that you might watch on Ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Corsair-HX520W-m...QQcmdZViewItem

Another:

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Antec-TruePo...QQcmdZViewItem

Another:

http://cgi.ebay.com/BRAND-NEW-Antec-...QQcmdZViewItem

sleppy · 06-03-2007, 08:58 PM

I ordered the trio version, let's hope it goes well. Thank you. Are there any nice tutorials on installing PSU's?

**1 g0t 0wn3d** · 06-03-2007, 09:01 PM

Normaly they come with instuctions, or you could take the old one out not uunplugging anything on the inside put new in and plug the cables in as you take them out.

Tumbleweed36 · 06-03-2007, 09:03 PM

THIS is a pretty good one. If you find this one not to your liking, then google "Installing a power supply." You will find many links that are excellent.

Addendum: Darn it 1 g0t 0wn3d, you beat me on that one. Was that payback for the one I beat you on the last time?????? I will work on my speed typing.

**1 g0t 0wn3d** · 06-03-2007, 09:08 PM

Meh, i don't hold grudges.

sleppy · 06-05-2007, 06:56 PM

Well, I did in fact order the Trio, and I got it today BUT it is the wrong SLOT.

I have to return it now, and get a new one that is compatable with my mobo.

sleppy · 06-05-2007, 07:04 PM

I have this mobo : http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.as...de-VM800&s=754

Tumbleweed36 · 06-05-2007, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleppy

Well, I did in fact order the Trio, and I got it today BUT it is the wrong SLOT.

I have to return it now, and get a new one that is compatable with my mobo.

You need to explain what you mean by the wrong slot. I think you may be in error here. If you mean you ordered a power supply that is 24 pin and have a 20 pin motherboard, then you can take that little plastic end (4 pins) off and it will work fine. If you have a 24 pin motherboard and have a power supply that is 20 pin, that will work fine if you orient it the right way on the board.

Please clarify so we can help you.

sleppy · 06-05-2007, 07:20 PM

Ohhh! HAHAHA.. ok imma go hook it up now

06-03-2007, 09:16 AM	#1 (permalink)
sleppy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 102 OS: WinXP	Overheating = Crashing? [RESOLVED] When I start playing a FPS game, almost always my computer freezes, and I have to shut my power off and back on. This probably started when I got a cheap($20) Power Supply put into my computer after my old one burned out. My question is: is there a way to find out if im crashing due to overheating, or maybe its something esle that is causing it? it could also be my mobo, because I got the mobo and PS put in at the same time

06-03-2007, 09:50 AM	#2 (permalink)
Tumbleweed36 Asst Manager Hardware Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 19,654 OS: XP Professional	Re: Overheating = Crashing? You can run SensorViewPro and it will tell you some things like temps and voltages. However, if you purchased a $20 power supply, you can almost bet that is your problem. A decent power supply will cost you $100 or more for a rig that has any power at all. Here is the link if interested in this program that tells some of that: http://www.softpedia.com/progDownloa...oad-29890.html __________________ ---------- I don't receive email notifications of replies to subscribed threads. (Internet provider policy) Therefore, if I don't respond to your post within 24 hours, please send me a reminder PM and include the link to your thread. Last edited by Tumbleweed36; 06-03-2007 at 03:26 PM.

06-03-2007, 03:18 PM	#3 (permalink)
sleppy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 102 OS: WinXP	Re: Overheating = Crashing? Thanks, I'll download it and observe the temps; if anything, I will just buy a new power supply. What is suppose to be an average temp on cpu and sys? Also, does anyone know any good tutorials/tips on installing a power supply? Last edited by sleppy; 06-03-2007 at 03:20 PM.

06-03-2007, 04:38 PM	#4 (permalink)
sleppy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 102 OS: WinXP	Re: Overheating = Crashing? Okay - I do believe it is my PSU. Can someone please aid me on how to pick out the right Power Supply for my system? Thanks! :)

06-03-2007, 05:42 PM	#5 (permalink)
Tumbleweed36 Asst Manager Hardware Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 19,654 OS: XP Professional	Re: Overheating = Crashing? Go HERE and read this information and you will know what you need after you use the Calculator. Be sure when you use the calculator to add 30% to what you get. When finished, come back and post your results and we will discuss what is most appropriate for your needs. __________________ ---------- I don't receive email notifications of replies to subscribed threads. (Internet provider policy) Therefore, if I don't respond to your post within 24 hours, please send me a reminder PM and include the link to your thread. Last edited by Tumbleweed36; 06-03-2007 at 05:49 PM.

06-03-2007, 06:43 PM	#6 (permalink)
sleppy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 102 OS: WinXP	Re: Overheating = Crashing? 315, including the 30%. Although, I didn't know a few things for the calculations. Sounds quite low too..:>

06-03-2007, 07:06 PM	#7 (permalink)
Tumbleweed36 Asst Manager Hardware Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 19,654 OS: XP Professional	Re: Overheating = Crashing? Post your specs so I can take a double check. That also sounds very low to me. __________________ ---------- I don't receive email notifications of replies to subscribed threads. (Internet provider policy) Therefore, if I don't respond to your post within 24 hours, please send me a reminder PM and include the link to your thread.

06-03-2007, 07:08 PM	#8 (permalink)
sleppy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 102 OS: WinXP	Re: Overheating = Crashing? Operating System: (WinXP Professional 5.1 Service Pack 2 (Build #2600)) ¤ Memory Usage: (Usage: 479/1024MB (46.78%) Video Card: ati 9550 pro Monitor: (Plug and Play Monitor) CPU Info: (1 CPU - AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3400+, 2.41 GHz, L1: 64KB L2: 512KB (3% Load)) Hard Disks: (Total/Free: 68.75/21.09GB ¤ Total/Free space on: C: 31.48/9.14GB ¤ E: 37.27/11.96GB) Connection/Network Interfaces: (#1 (Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC - Packet Scheduler Miniport (100Mb/s) 69.53MB In, 31.72MB Out)) I also have led fan on side panel Last edited by sleppy; 06-03-2007 at 07:09 PM.

06-03-2007, 08:34 PM	#10 (permalink)
sleppy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 102 OS: WinXP	Re: Overheating = Crashing? I'm looking at the reviews, and many people are saying it dies very fast.

06-03-2007, 08:47 PM	#11 (permalink)
Tumbleweed36 Asst Manager Hardware Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 19,654 OS: XP Professional	Re: Overheating = Crashing? I have had no problems with the Trio version and they are made by Seasonic, so an excellent supply IMHO. Many of the techs on here recommend them highly. Antec has a great RMA process, so with their warranty, if anything happens, you are covered. The NEO HE power supplies by Antec are also excellent. You might also look at a Seasonic (best of the best IMHO) in the 500 watt range or even a Corsair 520 which is a top-of-the-line supply. I might mention you can also get some excellent deals on new supplies at Ebay. __________________ ---------- I don't receive email notifications of replies to subscribed threads. (Internet provider policy) Therefore, if I don't respond to your post within 24 hours, please send me a reminder PM and include the link to your thread.

06-03-2007, 08:50 PM	#12 (permalink)
Tumbleweed36 Asst Manager Hardware Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 19,654 OS: XP Professional	Re: Overheating = Crashing? Here is a great supply that you might watch on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Corsair-HX520W-m...QQcmdZViewItem Another: http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Antec-TruePo...QQcmdZViewItem Another: http://cgi.ebay.com/BRAND-NEW-Antec-...QQcmdZViewItem __________________ ---------- I don't receive email notifications of replies to subscribed threads. (Internet provider policy) Therefore, if I don't respond to your post within 24 hours, please send me a reminder PM and include the link to your thread. Last edited by Tumbleweed36; 06-03-2007 at 08:55 PM.

06-03-2007, 08:58 PM	#13 (permalink)
sleppy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 102 OS: WinXP	Re: Overheating = Crashing? I ordered the trio version, let's hope it goes well. Thank you. Are there any nice tutorials on installing PSU's?

06-03-2007, 09:01 PM	#14 (permalink)
1 g0t 0wn3d TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Sedona, az Posts: 6,528 OS: Vista basic 32bit My System	Re: Overheating = Crashing? Normaly they come with instuctions, or you could take the old one out not uunplugging anything on the inside put new in and plug the cables in as you take them out. __________________ Bench Test \| PC Wizard \| System specs \| PSU info \| PSU calculator \| Memtest86+ \| Speedfan

06-03-2007, 09:03 PM	#15 (permalink)
Tumbleweed36 Asst Manager Hardware Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 19,654 OS: XP Professional	Re: Overheating = Crashing? THIS is a pretty good one. If you find this one not to your liking, then google "Installing a power supply." You will find many links that are excellent. Addendum: Darn it 1 g0t 0wn3d, you beat me on that one. Was that payback for the one I beat you on the last time?????? I will work on my speed typing. __________________ ---------- I don't receive email notifications of replies to subscribed threads. (Internet provider policy) Therefore, if I don't respond to your post within 24 hours, please send me a reminder PM and include the link to your thread. Last edited by Tumbleweed36; 06-03-2007 at 09:05 PM.

06-03-2007, 09:08 PM	#16 (permalink)
1 g0t 0wn3d TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Sedona, az Posts: 6,528 OS: Vista basic 32bit My System	Re: Overheating = Crashing? Meh, i don't hold grudges. __________________ Bench Test \| PC Wizard \| System specs \| PSU info \| PSU calculator \| Memtest86+ \| Speedfan

06-05-2007, 06:56 PM	#17 (permalink)
sleppy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 102 OS: WinXP	Re: Overheating = Crashing? Well, I did in fact order the Trio, and I got it today BUT it is the wrong SLOT. I have to return it now, and get a new one that is compatable with my mobo.

06-05-2007, 07:04 PM	#18 (permalink)
sleppy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 102 OS: WinXP	Re: Overheating = Crashing? I have this mobo : http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.as...de-VM800&s=754

06-05-2007, 07:20 PM	#20 (permalink)
sleppy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 102 OS: WinXP	Re: Overheating = Crashing? Ohhh! HAHAHA.. ok imma go hook it up now