[resolved]random shutdowns/restarts help me

theantman2007 · 05-20-2007, 09:41 AM

yo dudes i wasent sure where to post so i whacked it here, my pc randomly shuts down or restarts for wat seems to be no apparent reason it does it in games and just surfing the net, i get no error messages or anything and my temperatures seem reasonable my cpu is usually around 35-42(42-50 under load) and gpu is usually 32-41(45-49 under load) my pc will do this even if im not overclocking anything any help or recommendations would be appreciated.
Thx alot

Asus a8n-sli mobo
Bfg 7900 gt 512mg gpu 2.4ghz
Amd athlon x2 4600+ cpu
Western digital hard drive 150gb
1.5 gb RAM
Winpower 450 watt psu

**koala** · 05-20-2007, 10:01 AM

Hi, welcome to TSF

Enter your full system specs into this power calculator, and add 30% to the total to allow for PSU inefficiency. You can use Everest to find your specs.

Open the case and check for any loose connections or leaking capacitors on the motherboard. While the case is open, copy down the details from the PSU label (make/model, total watts, amps for +3.3V, +5V and +12V).

EDIT: The Winpower 450W is a low quality PSU costing about £15

theantman2007 · 05-20-2007, 10:21 AM

i made the recommended psu wattage to be 492.7 also it says on side of my psu
+3.3v = 28A, +5v = 40A, +12v = 20A. means nothing to me lol

**koala** · 05-20-2007, 10:34 AM

You'll need to replace the PSU. If you get 492W including the extra 30% then go for a good quality 550W. If you didn't add the 30% you'll need at least a 650W.

I have a similar setup to yours (see My System on the left) with a 650W Thermaltake which has strong +12V rails, needed for system stability. Unfortunately your Winpower 450W is not good enough quality.

theantman2007 · 05-20-2007, 10:35 AM

k thx alot dude ebay here i come! :)

theantman2007 · 05-20-2007, 10:40 AM

would this do its all i can afford atm. (btw that rating was including the 30%)
cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=003&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&viewitem=&item=130115037752&rd=1&rd=1

**koala** · 05-20-2007, 10:44 AM

No, that's not much better than your current one. You need 550W minimum, and that's if you won't be adding any more components like drives, RAM sticks, USB devices, etc which all require extra power.

Some good names to look for include Antec, Enermax, Seasonic, OCZ and Thermaltake. Make sure you check the +12V output in the product details, it will need to be more than 20A to run a 7900GT card.

These are the kind of quality PSUs you need to be looking at to prevent crashes.....

Antec True Power Trio 550W, £55
OCZ 600W, £65
Antec NeoPower 550W, £72

**linderman** · 05-20-2007, 03:34 PM

very sound advice you have been given!

I would buy one of the three PSU units that Koala has linked in his signature before you kill some of your computer components

unstable power is very rough on electrical computer parts; when you fry a video card or some memory that cheap power supply then becomes rather dear in price!

theantman2007 · 05-20-2007, 03:39 PM

thx dudes ill get a new psu see wat happens and post back

theantman2007 · 05-23-2007, 10:09 AM

I got a new antec 550 watt psu and ive been testing for a couple of hours and all seems well except a blue screen but that was due to getting optimistic with overclocking, thx alot koala

05-20-2007, 09:41 AM	#1 (permalink)
theantman2007 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: middle of nowhere england Posts: 11 OS: xp	[resolved]random shutdowns/restarts help me yo dudes i wasent sure where to post so i whacked it here, my pc randomly shuts down or restarts for wat seems to be no apparent reason it does it in games and just surfing the net, i get no error messages or anything and my temperatures seem reasonable my cpu is usually around 35-42(42-50 under load) and gpu is usually 32-41(45-49 under load) my pc will do this even if im not overclocking anything any help or recommendations would be appreciated. Thx alot Asus a8n-sli mobo Bfg 7900 gt 512mg gpu 2.4ghz Amd athlon x2 4600+ cpu Western digital hard drive 150gb 1.5 gb RAM Winpower 450 watt psu Last edited by theantman2007; 05-20-2007 at 10:04 AM.

05-20-2007, 10:01 AM	#2 (permalink)
koala Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK Posts: 12,411 OS: XP/7/Ubuntu My System	Re: random shutdowns/restarts help me Hi, welcome to TSF Enter your full system specs into this power calculator, and add 30% to the total to allow for PSU inefficiency. You can use Everest to find your specs. Open the case and check for any loose connections or leaking capacitors on the motherboard. While the case is open, copy down the details from the PSU label (make/model, total watts, amps for +3.3V, +5V and +12V). EDIT: The Winpower 450W is a low quality PSU costing about £15 __________________ New members: Subscribe to your thread (Thread Tools) to receive an instant email notification when you get a reply. TSF Folding@Home Team 85015 - details here Last edited by koala; 05-20-2007 at 10:09 AM.

05-20-2007, 10:21 AM	#3 (permalink)
theantman2007 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: middle of nowhere england Posts: 11 OS: xp	Re: random shutdowns/restarts help me i made the recommended psu wattage to be 492.7 also it says on side of my psu +3.3v = 28A, +5v = 40A, +12v = 20A. means nothing to me lol Last edited by theantman2007; 05-20-2007 at 10:26 AM.

05-20-2007, 10:34 AM	#4 (permalink)
koala Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK Posts: 12,411 OS: XP/7/Ubuntu My System	Re: random shutdowns/restarts help me You'll need to replace the PSU. If you get 492W including the extra 30% then go for a good quality 550W. If you didn't add the 30% you'll need at least a 650W. I have a similar setup to yours (see My System on the left) with a 650W Thermaltake which has strong +12V rails, needed for system stability. Unfortunately your Winpower 450W is not good enough quality. __________________ New members: Subscribe to your thread (Thread Tools) to receive an instant email notification when you get a reply. TSF Folding@Home Team 85015 - details here

05-20-2007, 10:35 AM	#5 (permalink)
theantman2007 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: middle of nowhere england Posts: 11 OS: xp	Re: random shutdowns/restarts help me k thx alot dude ebay here i come! :)

05-20-2007, 10:40 AM	#6 (permalink)
theantman2007 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: middle of nowhere england Posts: 11 OS: xp	Re: random shutdowns/restarts help me would this do its all i can afford atm. (btw that rating was including the 30%) cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=003&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&viewitem=&item=130115037752&rd=1&rd=1 Last edited by theantman2007; 05-20-2007 at 10:44 AM.

05-20-2007, 10:44 AM	#7 (permalink)
koala Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK Posts: 12,411 OS: XP/7/Ubuntu My System	Re: random shutdowns/restarts help me No, that's not much better than your current one. You need 550W minimum, and that's if you won't be adding any more components like drives, RAM sticks, USB devices, etc which all require extra power. Some good names to look for include Antec, Enermax, Seasonic, OCZ and Thermaltake. Make sure you check the +12V output in the product details, it will need to be more than 20A to run a 7900GT card. These are the kind of quality PSUs you need to be looking at to prevent crashes..... Antec True Power Trio 550W, £55 OCZ 600W, £65 Antec NeoPower 550W, £72 __________________ New members: Subscribe to your thread (Thread Tools) to receive an instant email notification when you get a reply. TSF Folding@Home Team 85015 - details here Last edited by koala; 05-20-2007 at 10:57 AM.

05-20-2007, 03:34 PM	#8 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 20,441 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Re: random shutdowns/restarts help me very sound advice you have been given! I would buy one of the three PSU units that Koala has linked in his signature before you kill some of your computer components unstable power is very rough on electrical computer parts; when you fry a video card or some memory that cheap power supply then becomes rather dear in price! __________________ I still know nothing and I respect that fact, striving to improve and, along the way, help anyone that comes from the place that I used to be! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial

05-20-2007, 03:39 PM	#9 (permalink)
theantman2007 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: middle of nowhere england Posts: 11 OS: xp	Re: random shutdowns/restarts help me thx dudes ill get a new psu see wat happens and post back

05-23-2007, 10:09 AM	#10 (permalink)
theantman2007 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: middle of nowhere england Posts: 11 OS: xp	Re: random shutdowns/restarts help me I got a new antec 550 watt psu and ive been testing for a couple of hours and all seems well except a blue screen but that was due to getting optimistic with overclocking, thx alot koala Last edited by theantman2007; 05-23-2007 at 10:11 AM.